Mods, do your work please

It's not hard to cheat the system though e7, even if you are a complete retard you can muster up enough good posts to get promoted. It's much easier to get rid of the idiots when they make themselves most visible, on night likes tonight.

At least we can look forward to a nice culling of various posters.
 
Newbies do earn their way in. You should see what doesn't make it. Only about 10% or less of newbies ever make it to the main forums. The ones that do make it often doen't reveal the inner muppet until they get out of the newbie. Like kids let out of school early.
 
It's been coming, now there's good reason for it.

I think the idea came from posts in this very thread actually.
 
DiaboliQue said:
It doesn't help the reputation of this place that a big chunk of the mods/admins are utter cnuts.
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Im not standing for that, if you dont like it feck off to Red Issue.

If you want to stay how about you make some positive, constructive suggestions on the best way forward for the United forum rather than whine?

For the record, if people would pay a bit more attention and not create a thread that has already been created, mods and admins would not need to merge. Nor would we have to deal with complaints that the United forum is rubbish. You posters are who make the United forum either good or rubbish. Not the moderators. Think about that.
 
golden_blunder said:
For the record, if people would pay a bit more attention and not create a thread that has already been created, mods and admins would not need to merge.
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Yes, thus why it should be an infractionable offence leading to a banning offence for those that can't be arsed to look past the first page or do a search. It's not just the football forums where this happens either.
 
WeasteDevil said:
Yes, thus why it should be an infractionable offence leading to a banning offence for those that can't be arsed to look past the first page or do a search. It's not just the football forums where this happens either.
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im actually agreeing with that now, the forums need some tough love
 
ecantona7 said:
tbf, cockneyhammer does talk sense most of the time. As for the amount of pillocks, no offence, but it's your own faults. You used to have to earn your way into the main forums but nowadays we get newbies promoted left, right, and centre and more than half of them don't know anything about football.
Now don't get me wrong, you get decents ones like I_live_cement who is a good poster but then again you get people like immature or manutd4ever10 and his bum buddy adn that tyeza fella. Newbies should earn their way in and mods shouldn't just give them reputation points easily. Now I'm not saying they do give them repupations points easily cause I have no proof cause I don't have access to the newbies but based on amount of newbies being promoted with a lack of football knowledge it is easy to assume that they are promoted very easily.
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Cheers mate. :)
 
WeasteDevil said:
Yes, thus why it should be an infractionable offence leading to a banning offence for those that can't be arsed to look past the first page or do a search. It's not just the football forums where this happens either.
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Want to be admin for a day and go on a rampage? ;)
 
The problem is not that people can't be bothered to see if other threads exist. I think people genuinely think they have an alternative and interesting slant on the game, and want people actually to read what they say - so they start a new thread regardless.

Problem is - usually they don't (have an alternative or interesting slant).

I think we will be trying to ensure all post-match analysis (or grumbling, or celebrating) goes in a single thread from now on.
 
Wibble said:
Ooooh! Excellent!

An axe wielding rampage.
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we will need flaming torches too, this is what it could end up like

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sincher said:
I think we will be trying to ensure all post-match analysis (or grumbling, or celebrating) goes in a single thread from now on.
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Just make sure not to merge every single thread after the matches - what I love about this place is that we've always got new threads when something new has happened, or something different.
A lot of forums don't want their users to create new threads and even got 1 single thread for each player and it takes away the dynamics of the forum. Just look at RAWK, they got 130 pages threads for each player - so say Babel did something in a particular game and some user wants to highlight it, then he has to post it in that big 130 pages thread and it loses it's meaning after a few posts.

Last night someone asked why Anderson didn't play, but the thread got merged with something completely random (I know the whole merging last night was probably some kind of demonstration from the said mod) and it'd be a shame if you started merging all post-match related threads.
I understand why general post-match moaning should be merged, but don't turn into to RAWK so that we only got 1 thread after the match, it'd ruin the debate in my opinion. Say someone want to highlight our tactical mistakes then that thread shouldn't be merged with a thread where someone talks about our strong defence. Just merge threads that are identical, if you merge everything then we'll have one big thread discussing 10 different aspects of the game, and those discussions would cross each other multiply times and people wouldn't know what's up and what's down - then it's much better to have those 10 different aspects of the game discussed in 10 different threads. Of course some of those aspects could be very close and would need merging like yesterday where we had a thread comparing us to Reading and a couple others focusing on our defensive take on the game.
But then there was also a thread asking how we were any different from Chelsea and Liverpool - if you merge that with the Reading comparison then the original question would soon lose meaning and cross with Reading comparisons - that might be what you want, but I'd prefer two separate threads in such case.

Then again, that's just how I see it.
 
agreed, last night there were at least 3 threads about chelsea/liverpool and 2 with 'shit' in the title
 
Top said:
Just make sure not to merge every single thread after the matches - what I love about this place is that we've always got new threads when something new has happened, or something different.
A lot of forums don't want their users to create new threads and even got 1 single thread for each player and it takes away the dynamics of the forum. Just look at RAWK, they got 130 pages threads for each player - so say Babel did something in a particular game and some user wants to highlight it, then he has to post it in that big 130 pages thread and it loses it's meaning after a few posts.

Last night someone asked why Anderson didn't play, but the thread got merged with something completely random (I know the whole merging last night was probably some kind of demonstration from the said mod) and it'd be a shame if you started merging all post-match related threads.
I understand why general post-match moaning should be merged, but don't turn into to RAWK so that we only got 1 thread after the match, it'd ruin the debate in my opinion. Say someone want to highlight our tactical mistakes then that thread shouldn't be merged with a thread where someone talks about our strong defence. Just merge threads that are identical, if you merge everything then we'll have one big thread discussing 10 different aspects of the game, and those discussions would cross each other multiply times and people wouldn't know what's up and what's down - then it's much better to have those 10 different aspects of the game discussed in 10 different threads. Of course some of those aspects could be very close and would need merging like yesterday where we had a thread comparing us to Reading and a couple others focusing on our defensive take on the game.
But then there was also a thread asking how we were any different from Chelsea and Liverpool - if you merge that with the Reading comparison then the original question would soon lose meaning and cross with Reading comparisons - that might be what you want, but I'd prefer two separate threads in such case.

Then again, that's just how I see it.
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Top, I agree with you re merging. It doesn't help anything.

But what if there was 1 thread for post-match analysis, and new threads that do not have a distinct point are swiftly deleted? Obviously this relies on the mods judging well when a thread does have a distinct point.

My view is that questioning why a player didn't start is just more post-match analysis. Asking if anyone knows if he's injured might just about qualify for its own thread - it will be tough to judge.
 
It's not that tough to judge, it'll just be tough to implement.

Luckily, you've already voluteered to do it single handedly
 
sincher said:
My view is that questioning why a player didn't start is just more post-match analysis. Asking if anyone knows if he's injured might just about qualify for its own thread - it will be tough to judge.
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I just think it's unnecessary to put all post-match stuff together, it'd do more harm than good in my view. I don't see the problem with having separate threads focusing on different aspects of the post-match analysis.
Let's say someone wants to talk about how useless it is using Rooney on the wing, another poster wants to talk about how Anderson could have made a difference, then someone wants to talk about how we should have attacked some more, then there's one calling Park invisible and finally we have someone talking about how solid our defence was.
Imagine having all those different discussions in the same thread - it would be chaos, and we'd have 5 posts discussing the same subject spread over various pages - it would be much better to keep the posts re. Rooney together in one thread and praise for our defence in another, as people would then be discussing the exact same thing and don't have to look through one giant thread in order to find segments of a discussion.

Again that's just my opinion, but I really can't see any advantages of having one huge thread.
 
I agree with that.

It wouldn't have to be one huge thread though. All of those threads you mentioned could still happen. It depends how it's gone about
 
The massive thread merging is a disaster. Yes there is lots of new threads about the same thing after most matches but most of them "die" away after a couple of hours and then discussion continues in one particular thread. For example Colin's "Well that'll do, eh?" thread turned into the unofficial post match discussion. Having "official" threads about matches and players created by mods will result in this forum ultimately turning into a crap forum. I remember posting about a goalkeeper in a hockey teams forum and then one mod told me to post in the +7000 replies thread about our goalies being crap...
 
Ice-hockey goalkeepers should never concede any goals, ever. I mean, they're twice the size of the fecking goal, and arn't allowed off their line. There's no possible excuse
 
Richter said:
The massive thread merging is a disaster. Yes there is lots of new threads about the same thing after most matches but most of them "die" away after a couple of hours and then discussion continues in one particular thread. ..
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That's right - it's Darwinian - the fittest threads survive and the others sink to the bottom of the caf pool. We don't want no creationist mods.
 
Top said:
Just make sure not to merge every single thread after the matches - what I love about this place is that we've always got new threads when something new has happened, or something different.
A lot of forums don't want their users to create new threads and even got 1 single thread for each player and it takes away the dynamics of the forum. Just look at RAWK, they got 130 pages threads for each player - so say Babel did something in a particular game and some user wants to highlight it, then he has to post it in that big 130 pages thread and it loses it's meaning after a few posts.

Last night someone asked why Anderson didn't play, but the thread got merged with something completely random (I know the whole merging last night was probably some kind of demonstration from the said mod) and it'd be a shame if you started merging all post-match related threads.
I understand why general post-match moaning should be merged, but don't turn into to RAWK so that we only got 1 thread after the match, it'd ruin the debate in my opinion. Say someone want to highlight our tactical mistakes then that thread shouldn't be merged with a thread where someone talks about our strong defence. Just merge threads that are identical, if you merge everything then we'll have one big thread discussing 10 different aspects of the game, and those discussions would cross each other multiply times and people wouldn't know what's up and what's down - then it's much better to have those 10 different aspects of the game discussed in 10 different threads. Of course some of those aspects could be very close and would need merging like yesterday where we had a thread comparing us to Reading and a couple others focusing on our defensive take on the game.
But then there was also a thread asking how we were any different from Chelsea and Liverpool - if you merge that with the Reading comparison then the original question would soon lose meaning and cross with Reading comparisons - that might be what you want, but I'd prefer two separate threads in such case.

Then again, that's just how I see it.
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It might help if the some of the creators of the threads actually spent a few seconds in a little thought to give the thread a decent non-ambiguous title and a well considered first post. Most of them don't.
 
Bury Red said:
FFS, when you've got a West Ham fan talking the most sense in the United forum and a chorus of "supposed" United fans slagging him off for pointing out the stupidity in those threads then things have gone seriously wrong on here.
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I don't post in the United forum very often for exactly that reason, I do sympathise with the fact that some fans like it to be a sacred place for United supporters to share their opinions on United. Thats fair enough and genrally I respect that.

I often browse the United forum and sometimes post a reply to something I have a significant enough knowledge on to be able to post I don't try to wind posters up in there, sometimes I may be slightly sarcastic but it is solely meant in a light hearted way rather than trying to wind people up.

When a conversation goes along the lines of this though

Scholes is our best player so far, everyone else bottled it. We look like Arsenal out there, standing back like sheep for the slaughter against a shitty Barcelona side
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Call Barcelona a shitty team proves your knowledge about football

The games only 20 minutes if you not going to get behond the team why bother supporting them

It was never going to be an easy game tonight but you'll come through in the end
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They are a shitty team, there is no reason why we shouldn't win tonight
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It also shows your ignorance
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I tried to be polite with you, but it's not working it seems. I'm not going to play "who knows more about football" with you. So please go take your football knowledge and go feck yourself on some west ham board, or at least don't post in this topic.

Thanks
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No, its you who is the ignorant one. Barcelona is horribly shitty, and i mean that in the Champions League level, and not shitty as in Nottingham Forest. They are so overrated, and Manchester United are clearly playing themselves into their hands. They have a porous defence, and we should show a lot more ambition rather than sitting back and absorb all the pressure. Each time we advance forward, their defence panicks and make all sorts of mistakes. I dare say that if we take off Park, bring in Nani, and starts to be a bit more adventurous, we will bring at least a goal lead back to Old Trafford.
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It dissaudes me from posting in there and as you know there is even Man Utd fans who don't post in there due to posts like the above.

What can you do about it?

Not much really, everyone is entitled to their opinion at the end of the day even if it is widely viewed as stupid. Perhaps create a post match moaning thread or something have it stickied at the top, anything significant enough though to merit is own thread should be welcome to it but threads like the one I mentioned above should belong there. Thats then an extra load on the moderators though and will create a lot of work for them taking their enjoyment of the cafe away. It's a lose lose situation really but most of the time you'll find if you change things they'll just change for the worse.

ecantona7 said:
tbf, cockneyhammer does talk sense most of the time.
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Cheers I do try but sometimes I can't help the deluded West Ham view coming through! It's in the blood!
 
sincher said:
The problem is not that people can't be bothered to see if other threads exist. I think people genuinely think they have an alternative and interesting slant on the game, and want people actually to read what they say - so they start a new thread regardless.

Problem is - usually they don't (have an alternative or interesting slant).

I think we will be trying to ensure all post-match analysis (or grumbling, or celebrating) goes in a single thread from now on.
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Amen to that.
 
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