Especially when the player will be practicing them.
Mo Salah
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss three 1-1 draws.
The first got us knocked out of the FA Cup, the next puts us in a good position in our Round of 16 Europa League game, and the latest was an actual decent performance against Arsenal at Old Trafford.
All hopes for the season now rest on the Europa League - does Amorim have the squad to win it?
Nope.
This penalties argument is dumb.
With penalties he is the joint 6th top scorer of all-time in the PL and has the 4th best goals-to-games ratio.
Take penalties out the equation and he is 7th on the all-time list (only 2 behind Henry) and still has the 4th best goals-to-games ratio.
With penalties he is the joint 6th top scorer of all-time in the PL and has the 4th best goals-to-games ratio.
Take penalties out the equation and he is 7th on the all-time list (only 2 behind Henry) and still has the 4th best goals-to-games ratio.
Who are the top 3?
Henry, Aguero, Kane in that order.
Yep, even the worst penalty taker in the squad gets at least 7 free goals from 10 penalties. The more penalties in goal records, the less impressive they are.
Yeaaaah I'm gonna call bullshit on this one. Barely any designated penalty takers get to a 90% hit rate, let alone a bang average random defender. And not that I needed further proof for that but he didn't do himself any favours with that penalty miss against Fulham in the FA Cup last week either.
Shearer has a 84% conversion rate, Lampard 86%, Salah 85%, Kane 89%, Gerrard 78% - that's the top 5 of penalties scored in their PL career. Yet you think Lindelöf would score 9 out of 10. Even someone like Rooney only scored 23 out of 34 penalties (68%). Out of the top 10, only Henry (92%) and Le Tissier (96%) are above 90%.
Kane with ‚only‘ 89% is a bit surprising. The last one he missed was vs France in the quarters 2022.
He scored 30 in a row now which is a record.
He scored 30 in a row now which is a record.
What's the top 10 conversation rate?
I absolutely get what you are implying in general, there is truth in there, specially in the sense of that YOU still have to score them and that they have their nuances. This implies more than anything an element of pression that BTW has a LOT TO DO with the very reason that it's the easier way to score.
Penalties still are the let's say more favorable situation to score in pure terms, there is no denying to that too.
1. Palmer 100% - 12 taken 12 scored
2. Yaya Toure 100% - 11 taken 11 scored
3. R. Jiménez - 10 taken 10 scored
4. Matt Le Tissier 96.2% - 26 taken 25 scored
5. Danny Murphy 94.7% - 19 taken 18 scored
6. Callum Wilson - 17 taken 16 scored
7. James Beattie 94.1% - 17 taken 16 scored
8. Julian Dicks 93.8% - 16 taken 15 scored
9. Thierry Henry 92% - 25 taken 23 scored
10. Bukayo Saka 91.7% - 12 taken 11 scored
List I found was drawn up at the end of January so Palmer will have dropped given his miss yesterday. With the exception of Henry though, all guys with just 1 miss. To state that a random guy like Lindelöf would score 9 out of 10 in the leauge is quite something if you look at that list.
Fair enough, but then I imagine most players wouldn't be far under the current league average.
Very nearly 50% of them are below average.
Lindelof.That's not relevant to what I said.
This is correct, he would score less but no doubt would of been one of been one of the great PL right wingers. Salah lost a yard of pace about 3 years ago, in the old days he'd have probably been switched to the traditional number 10 at that point.
All nitpicking here, if you look at the top goal scorer and assisters in the PL era, a genuine argument can be made for most as the best in their position over the PL time.
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Sorry my sarcasm wasnt good enough, I´ll try harder next time.
Was actually responding to the claim that "If you’re any old pro footballer, and just smash the ball as hard as you can in the general direction of the goal you’ll score lots" which is blatantly not true. You need good striking technique And some balls which Lindelof has neither as he demonstrated the other day (Zirkzees penalty wasnt much better on both of those requirements). You could see from miles off Victor wasnt comfortable at all going for it.
There´s also claim that "f these players trained taking pennos they would be as good as a Salah at them" which also is false. Im absolutely certain that Lindelof, or any pro player for that matter, would have taken thousands and thousands practice penalties in their career. And dozens and dozens "proper ones" as, in many underrage tournaments, there´d be a penalty shootout after every group game no matter the outcome of the match.
Poor Lindelof
What’s Lindelof done to be dragged into this thread?
Poor guy being compared to Salah on a new metric measurement haha
Poor guy being compared to Salah on a new metric measurement haha
Echoes of Bramble vs Zidane here.
Flopped in both legs, not Ballon d'Or worthy.
Liverpool might have won if he played
Liverpool clearly have a mammoth task to find a replacement that can score the 15 pens they get a season.
Give Mendes some credit. Totally nullified him over both legs.
Yeah, that's the Ballon d'or gone.
Breaking: Egypt to organize an emergency African Cup. As the host, they are through to the final and have a 3 goals lead.
Ballon d'or hehe.
Best in the world apparently. Shame he was injured for these two games
Diving rat.
Cheating feck. The slo-mo of him looking at the ref as he throws himself to the ground is something else.
Nice dive too. Clutching his face as he goes down from no contact.
As a genuine question as obviously don't watch Pool that much, is he always this quiet in big CL games?
I know he scored a peno in the final versus Spurs but that awful (though great for them) game where they overturned the 0-3 deficit vs Barca he didn't play.
I know he scored a peno in the final versus Spurs but that awful (though great for them) game where they overturned the 0-3 deficit vs Barca he didn't play.
In Nuno Mendes' pocket all game
2 dives, but he probably gets at least one of those in the PL.
Not going to win the Ballon d’Or now, a lot of the early season hype will fade now, probably unlikely to finish top 3. Last 16 exit in the CL without international competition just doesn’t cut the mustard. Could end his career without being in the top 3 too.
Ballon d'or off.
Lamine Yamal is a better player. I said what I said. I don't care what numbers anyone throws at me.
Tonight for sure.
Ballon d'off. Right?
He didn't had his best game today, yet some of his interventions deserved a better finishing, like that reverse pass between two defenders to leave Diaz alone and the Colombian deciding not to shoot instantly with his weaker foot.
He was a bit indolent at times, yet it's also that calm and easy going approach what makes him great so many times in clutch situations or not falling when he fails many chances and grabs a later one.
From the forwards, he was the most intelligent one by a distance, the rest I'll be kind and call them a bit over the top impulsive.
He was a bit indolent at times, yet it's also that calm and easy going approach what makes him great so many times in clutch situations or not falling when he fails many chances and grabs a later one.
From the forwards, he was the most intelligent one by a distance, the rest I'll be kind and call them a bit over the top impulsive.