MLB 2021

calodo2003 said:
He came from a solid college program. Enjoyed watching him at FSU.
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With 2-3 more solid years he would be a no doubt first ballot HOFer, but now it is going to be dicey. Not for me, but for some of the talking heads out there.

Guy won comeback player of the year. Twice. That first one was amazing as it was a nasty injury. Without COVID and that leg break he would have been in the running for top all around catcher of all time (not named Bench).
 
WI_Red said:
With 2-3 more solid years he would be a no doubt first ballot HOFer, but now it is going to be dicey. Not for me, but for some of the talking heads out there.

Guy won comeback player of the year. Twice. That first one was amazing as it was a nasty injury. Without COVID and that leg break he would have been in the running for top all around catcher of all time (not named Bench).
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Forgot that he didn’t switch to catcher til his sophomore year at FSU.
 
calodo2003 said:
Forgot that he didn’t switch to catcher til his sophomore year at FSU.
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And will end his career as one of the best defensive catchers of all time. His ability to call a game and pitch frame is mind blowing. Molina had the better arm, but Buster wasn't too shabby either.
 
Buster is a Hall of Fame catcher. Only he and Molina are Hall worthy in such a reduced and specialized position from the past 20 years. Only other catchers that pop into mind are Pudge Rodriguez and Mike Piazza. Maybe Mauer and Posada.
 
WI_Red said:
With 2-3 more solid years he would be a no doubt first ballot HOFer, but now it is going to be dicey. Not for me, but for some of the talking heads out there.

Guy won comeback player of the year. Twice. That first one was amazing as it was a nasty injury. Without COVID and that leg break he would have been in the running for top all around catcher of all time (not named Bench).
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Not a chance he was better than Pudge.
 
MrMarcello said:
Not a chance he was better than Pudge.
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Pudge did it longer, but if you look at their 5 year peak they are about even. Posey is hard to analyze because of the prime years lost to injury and COVID. Their MVP seasons are very close to each other and they were both elite defensive catchers (in different ways, just like Molina and Posey). I would rank Pudge in the conversation of best catchers, he is one of only 16 HoF catchers after all, but I am biased and so I say I would take peak Posey over peak Pudge. Personal preference I suppose.
 
calodo2003 said:
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id...-cancer-led-atlanta-braves-world-series-title
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Further expanding the postseason in 1994* with three divisions and a wild card created a lottery in many ways. The end season hot team making a run, sometimes winning it all. This team or that team making the clutch hit or defensive gem or pitching performance at the most opportune time in a series. I personally have no issue with Atlanta winning the whole thing this year, unlike say Florida's rental team in 1997 (granted, feck Jose Mesa) or when the 2006 Cardinals rode a postseason wave after winning 83-fecking-games (only the Mets surpassed 90 wins in the NL that year).

The only way I can see a true reward for clubs that dominate the regular season is through a one-table, balanced schedule system but that will never happen in US sports. For MLB I am unsure how a balanced schedule would look. There could be no inter-league play, which I would be ok with. If inter-league play remains then all 30 clubs must play against each. Then how does the scheduling work.

If two clubs were contracted one could create an AL and NL table were 14 clubs play 156 games, i.e. each club plays the other 13 clubs 12 times, 6 home and 6 away, no inter-league play. The top two in each league qualify for the postseason.

Without contraction, perhaps one league has 16 clubs and the other has 14, this would yield 156-game seasons for each league. However, the 16-team league would split along this line - play 7 clubs 12 times, the remaining 8 clubs 9 times - which creates an imbalance. Also, this scenario could perhaps see the addition of two new clubs to increase the 14-team league.

*I know it was cancelled that first season.
 
calodo2003 said:
So many detestable names on here…

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I just embrace it. Steroids were "legal" at the time so whatever.

In: Bonds, Kent, Ortiz, Pettite, Manny, ARod, Shefield, Helton
In but shouldn't be: Ortiz (I despise DH's)
Close but No: Hudson, Buehrle,

feck Schilling for so many reasons. Same with Omar.
 
Sounds like the Mets are making some moves. Marte, Canha and Eduardo Escobar all but confirmed.

Dare I say it, could this be their year? (well, next year).

Edit - Not Scherzer though please!
 
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Wendle, Stallings and Avisail Garcia are solid pick ups for the Marlins. Sandy Alcantara also got an extension. Nice to see my team trying to be competitive for a change
 
Vidyoyo said:
The Rule Draft 5 has been suspended indefinitely too. I'm sure there's a few annoyed teams out there who made room on the 40-man squad for players they didn't need to.
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As a Giant fan this saddens me. Farhan is the Wizard of the Rule 5 Draft and Waiver Wire.

I am 100% on the players side on this. The owners playoff proposals are madness and service time needs to be fixed. I would love for the minor league pay issues to be fixed, but those players have a different union.
 
WI_Red said:
As a Giant fan this saddens me. Farhan is the Wizard of the Rule 5 Draft and Waiver Wire.

I am 100% on the players side on this. The owners playoff proposals are madness and service time needs to be fixed. I would love for the minor league pay issues to be fixed, but those players have a different union.
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You mean extending the playoffs to more teams? I can't see the logic behind it either given how many games teams play to get there. Should be kept special

Though I'm not totally against the WC game moving to 3 games
 
Vidyoyo said:
You mean extending the playoffs to more teams? I can't see the logic behind it either given how many games teams play to get there. Should be kept special

Though I'm not totally against the WC game moving to 3 games
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The choosing of what teams another team wants to play in the playoffs is also bonkers.
 
calodo2003 said:
The choosing of what teams another team wants to play in the playoffs is also bonkers.
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As is having 14 (almost 50%!!!!) of teams make the playoffs.

I like the small playoff size of baseball compared to NFL/NBA, it rewards competence.
 
I was reading into it the lockout yesterday and apparently the players will be represented in discussions by representatives, including Scherzer, Lindor, Semien and G. Cole. I thought that was interesting as they're all some of MLB's highest players - so theoretically their goal will be helping players paid far less than them to get a better deal. That's a really nice thing for sport.

P.s. This might be common knowledge, I only started watching baseball a year ago so it's new to me.
 
Believe it has often been top paid players are in these positions during negotiations. They're usually the longer serving members in the sport and elected by players for these matters.
 
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MrMarcello said:
Believe it has often been top paid players are in these positions during negotiations. They're usually the longer serving members in the sport and elected by players for these matters.
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That makes sense. Lindor seems a bit young I suppose but his mega-contract probably elevates him.

Speaking of which, the Mets still don't have a manager apparently(!).
 
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/12/details-on-luxury-tax-payments-for-dodgers-padres.html

Thought this was quite interesting. Doggers and Padres were the only two teams to go above the luxury tax threshold, at $36m and $1m respectively.

As usual, Doggers are punished with moving down 10 places in next year's draft, from 30th to 40th pick.

For the Padres it means they don't have less sway signing free agent, though I've heard no noise about their interest in any.

It's my first year following baseball so I'm still learning about all these intricacies.
 
WI_Red said:
Sure, let in the PED user who only played half of a game. Pure DH’s absolutely do not belong in the hall.
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Carolina Red said:
Stay salty my friend ;)
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Salty from the tears of sadness.

My view on the DH has nothing to do with Papi/Bonds though. It's been my belief for years. In a nutshell, a DH must be significantly better than their elite peers at hitting to get into the Hall in my opinion.
 
WI_Red said:
Salty from the tears of sadness.

My view on the DH has nothing to do with Papi/Bonds though. It's been my belief for years. In a nutshell, a DH must be significantly better than their elite peers at hitting to get into the Hall in my opinion.
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Eh, 55.3 bWAR and 51.0 fWAR isn't an outlier for a HoF spot. Plus when you add in his ridiculous performances in the postseason (4th highest OPS ever in the WS with twice as many ABs as anyone in front of him) and the genuine impact he had on reversing the fortunes of one of the league's premier franchises, I don't begrudge him his place.

What I do begrudge is the lunacy of keeping guys like Bonds and Clemens out. Ridiculous to have a museum without guys from that era in, especially when no one seems to give a shit about the performance enhancing effects of amphetamines?
 
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