The involvement of the private diving/scanning firm and how much they're pushing themselves forward and talking in the media makes me uncomfortable. Perhaps I'm being unfair, but it seems like it's being treated as something of a sales pitch. And, naturally, when they couldn't turn up anything, they start alluding to there being more to it than meets the eye.
Partner dunnit.
She disappeared 11 days ago.3 weeks ago when she disappeared that was just after the floods right? The river in question is fairly wide and would have been very fast moving just after the floods. There's also very little to grab onto down the river, it's mainly grass, so it's not like she could have grabbed onto a tree and tried to climb out.
Her Spaniel wasn't wet and she didn't have her harness on so she must have taken it off to allow the dog to run around the field (assuming the field itself wasn't flooded). She clearly didn't jump in to rescue her dog otherwise the dog would be wet. The grass would have been wet and potentially slippery. So she must have slipped on the edge and went in? Not impossible, but looking at the area it happened it doesn't look overly dangerous. If she had gone in though, there's very little chance she could have gotten out, flooded rivers are very fast flowing.
It hasn't even been two weeks yet so don't think floods would be a factor. News got onto the case pretty soon after she disappeared and the river looked "fine" from the reporters nearby.3 weeks ago when she disappeared that was just after the floods right? The river in question is fairly wide and would have been very fast moving just after the floods. There's also very little to grab onto down the river, it's mainly grass, so it's not like she could have grabbed onto a tree and tried to climb out.
Her Spaniel wasn't wet and she didn't have her harness on so she must have taken it off to allow the dog to run around the field (assuming the field itself wasn't flooded). She clearly didn't jump in to rescue her dog otherwise the dog would be wet. The grass would have been wet and potentially slippery. So she must have slipped on the edge and went in? Not impossible, but looking at the area it happened it doesn't look overly dangerous. If she had gone in though, there's very little chance she could have gotten out, flooded rivers are very fast flowing.
Has Elon Musk turned up with his submarine yet?The involvement of the private diving/scanning firm and how much they're pushing themselves forward and talking in the media makes me uncomfortable. Perhaps I'm being unfair, but it seems like it's being treated as something of a sales pitch. And, naturally, when they couldn't turn up anything, they start alluding to there being more to it than meets the eye.
Feasibility could someone random of taken her, in the middle of the day and hidden the body?
Feasibility could someone random of taken her, in the middle of the day and hidden the body?
Maybe the victim hit a stone or something with his head while falling. Whats the embankment like there?
FamilicideDidn't know where to put this
Epsom College deaths
From a report in the Guardian, police believe the husband shot and killed his wife and seven-year-old daughter before killing himself. What kind of fecking cnut shoots their fecking kid? I can't get my head around it at all.
nothing unsolved or mysterious about this one. As soon as I saw the headline at the weekend it was very obvious what had happenedDidn't know where to put this
Epsom College deaths
From a report in the Guardian, police believe the husband shot and killed his wife and seven-year-old daughter before killing himself. What kind of fecking cnut shoots their fecking kid? I can't get my head around it at all.
A family annihilator. Nearly always male, seen by others as successful and a good husband and father, often aged between 30 and 40. The murders are often preceded by a crisis such as relationship or job problems, mental illness or financial worries.nothing unsolved or mysterious about this one. As soon as I saw the headline at the weekend it was very obvious what had happened
Don't browse the subreddit
A family annihilator. Nearly always male, seen by others as successful and a good husband and father, often aged between 30 and 40. The murders are often preceded by a crisis such as relationship or job problems, mental illness or financial worries.
Until last summer she was Head of Croydon Girls’ High School, where a friend’s daughter was one of her pupils. Awful.Didn't know where to put this
Epsom College deaths
From a report in the Guardian, police believe the husband shot and killed his wife and seven-year-old daughter before killing himself. What kind of fecking cnut shoots their fecking kid? I can't get my head around it at all.
I blame Tommy Lee Royce.Things are really getting out of hand.
Sounds a silly question these days I suppose but why are people vandalising things
Some interesting theories on there to say the least!
Sounds a silly question these days I suppose but why are people vandalising things
Often a belief that the children would suffer more if they were left behind, I think.What's the prevailing theory, or theories, behind why the killer takes out the kids?
The wiki on familicide explains this quite wellWhat's the prevailing theory, or theories, behind why the killer takes out the kids?
The Director of the Birmingham City University Centre of Applied Criminology, David Wilson, co-wrote a study with two others,[15] "A taxonomy of male British family annihilators, 1980–2013", examining British familicides in the period.[16] Newspaper articles were used as references. The study concluded that most of the perpetrators were male. Men who murder their entire families usually do so because they believe their spouse performed a wrongdoing and that the spouse needs to be punished, they feel that the family members caused a disappointment, they feel that their own financial failings ruined the point of having a family, and because they wish to save their family from a perceived threat.[17] Far fewer women commit familicide, and those who do usually have different reasons, including perceived or imagined loss of custody of children. Male family annihilators are typically driven by loss of control, including financial crises, separation or divorce, and may demonstrate evidence for domestic violence, while for women perpetrators, battery, abuse or mental illness is more common, the act itself more likely premeditated and more likely to include victims under the age of one.
David Wilson of Birmingham City University has divided these cases into four groups: anomic, disappointed, self-righteous, and paranoid.[citation needed]
In this typology, the anomic killer sees his family purely as a status symbol; when his economic status collapses, he sees them as surplus to requirements. The disappointed killer seeks to punish the family for not living up to his ideals of family life. The self-righteous killer destroys the family to exact revenge upon the mother, in an act that he blames on her. Finally, the paranoid killer kills their family in what they imagine to be an attempt to protect them from something even worse.
What subreddit we talking about here?
Yes, a lot of these theories are ridiculous. Isn't there a documentary about the Reddit sleuths who identified an innocent person they thought was the perp of the Boston bombing? I remember that day on Reddit, was insane.Thought it was a good press conference by them. They need to shut down some of the baseless theories from amateur sleuths.
Thiught it was someone trying to see if she was in thereSounds a silly question these days I suppose but why are people vandalising things
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-64647967
Lancashire Police have conducted their latest press conference on Nicola Bulley's disappearance.
They acknowledged criticism of the police investigation, but said they wanted to give greater detail into what officers have been doing in the 19 days since she vanished. Here's what we learned.
High-risk: Det Supt Becky Smith said Bulley was graded as "high-risk" based on a number of specific "individual vulnerabilities" police were told about by her partner Paul Ansell. Smith refused to give further details out of respect for Bulley's family.
The glove: Addressing a report in the Sun, Smith said a glove had been recovered but it was not relevant to the investigation. She said social media sleuths had distracted the investigation and been hurtful for Bulley's family.
River hypothesis: Smith said her working hypothesis remains that the likelihood is Bulley went "into the river". But she stressed she can't be certain that is what happened as the investigation's live and there's always new information coming in.
The field: Police stressed that there has been no information to suggest a third-party was involved, or that Bulley left the field where her phone was found on a bench.
Derelict house: Smith confirmed a derelict house near the River Wyre has been searched three times and Bulley was not there.
Bulley's dog: Asked if it was significant that Bulley's dog was running between the bench and the gate - not the bench and the water's edge - police said they couldn't speak to the dog and all they could say is that the dog, Willow, was running back and forth in the area where Bulley's possessions were found.
Social media activity: Smith said police are doing "further work" on Bulley's social media accounts. This might mean Bulley will show up as online on those accounts, but police have full control of Bulley's phone and it will be them, not anyone else, using the accounts.
I feel for the police on this one. Regardless of whether they've made every decision right, they've got internet nutters looking over their shoulders, trying to turn a poor woman's potential death into an interactive murder mystery, all in the name of entertainment. It's grotesque. And, to be quite honest, the noises from the people surrounding her haven't helped. The "individual vulnerabilities' referred to above will perhaps become clearer in the fullness of time, but I suspect they are referring to mental health/depression issues, or something in that realm, in which case, the hypothesis that she is in the water would be even more logical.Thought it was a good press conference by them. They need to shut down some of the baseless theories from amateur sleuths.
Very Black MirrorI feel for the police on this one. Regardless of whether they've made every decision right, they've got internet nutters looking over their shoulders, trying to turn a poor woman's potential death into an interactive murder mystery, all in the name of entertainment. It's grotesque. And, to be quite honest, the noises from the people surrounding her haven't helped. The "individual vulnerabilities' referred to above will perhaps become clearer in the fullness of times, but I suspect they are referring to mental health/depression issues, or something in that realm, in which case, the hypothesis that she is in the water would be even more logical.
Yeah I think I got the wrong end of the stickThiught it was someone trying to see if she was in there
