Michael Keane
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we've got to remember Keane only made 20 apps, not all 90 minutes worth either, throughout the 2013/14 season. all said, i think a Championship loan wouldn't be the end of things. it's regular football, after all. it's just frustrating knowing (1) the talent he has (2) how much of a trainwreck Cardiff City is (c) U21 counterparts Andre Wisdom, John Stones, Eric Dier are all in the top flight.
Im impressed. I think Blackett is way more composed and way more comfortable on the ball though.
Lingard at RWB left him dealing with 2 on 1's yesterday as Lingard was all over the place defensively in that position when he first came on. (Cannot blame him either.)
He was then pulled out wide too much and Jones towards the right leaving space. Thought he did alright though and his first touch passing was particularly good
Not sure about that all. Blackett is better at Carrying the ball but Keane probably has better vision.
He was then pulled out wide too much and Jones towards the right leaving space. Thought he did alright though and his first touch passing was particularly good
Not sure about that all. Blackett is better at Carrying the ball but Keane probably has better vision.
He has impressed me with every loan deal he has had in the championship. I would like to see him step up to a PL loan if LVG wants to loan him out. Watching Keane last couple of seasons, I rate him more highly than Blackett. Very talented and good on the ball.
I think he is clumsy. Gonna end up a pretty good footballer though, but not at United. A new Shawcross.
Bit of inexperience showing through at times but has otherwise looked very good, especially against Roma where he got unlucky with a penalty shout.
Clumsy is literally the last thing he is. His strengths and weaknesses are the polar opposite of someone like Shawcross.
I didn't say he plays like Shawcross. I said he is gonna end up at Shawcross level, which isn't bad. As for not clumsy, two penalties given away so far in pre season. I think he looks clumsy when playing at a higher level (although he is good with the ball, good not great).
If vision is the ability to read the game and consitently pick out and found your teammates with probbing balls, good distribution etc, then Blackett had Keane beat in that respect as well during this preseason. His last two games have been impeccable.
Disagree. See the Videos of Keane posted in this thread even. That cross field ball to Young for his 2nd goal vs Real being a highlight.
Blackett has been good as well but he takes his time and extra touch more while Keane seems to have better awareness of the first time pass. (Blackett tried hurrying the pass couple of times yesterday and got caught out a bit.)
Anyway, both have been good overall and arguably our best 2 defenders distribution wise.
I totally disagree with this and even your slight criticism of him is clutching at straws. Blackett taking an extra touch or two is not a black mark on him. He's shown the composure to take a few touches and make the right decision going forward. His passing and carrying of the ball has been superior to that of the other defenders. His one on one marking has been superior as well, he has high concentration levels. Keane has been impressive but Blackett has almost been flawless especially his last two games. Keane showed his inexperience with the two penalties he conceded while Blackett replaced Evans against Liverpool and brought calm to the United defence
Not sure what 2 Penalties conceded has to do with anything while debating a completely unrelated point about their passing abilities.
First one wasn't a Penalty either. And if we are talking errors then Blackett clearly was bailed out by Smalling's great tackle after being caught out yesterday first half on one occasion and looked really really bad first half vs Roma getting caught out by Destro time and again off simple balls over the top. Just because they didn't lead to goals doesn't make them more ignorable though both are Young and some mistakes will be there.
How did the Roma penalty show inexperience? He had the ball kicked at him from like a foot away and it hit his arm. That can happen to anyone and has happened to the best and most experienced of defenders.
Watching him last night it seems that he's a bit slow, particularly compared to someone like Phil Jones. I've seen a number of posts here saying how clumsy he is, and the way he brought down Bale the other day (yes, I know it was against a top quality winger), suggests his clumsiness is due to lack of speed.
Is he quick but lacking fitness at the moment, or does he lack pace?
Is he quick but lacking fitness at the moment, or does he lack pace?
He's not a speed merchant by any means, even at full fitness. He's average in that area.
Did well today after the initial one error first few minutes of 2nd half.
His pass first time well weighted to Van Persie set up that counter which lead to the 2 penalty incidents. Him and Valencia had better co ordination than Jones and Valencia.
His pass first time well weighted to Van Persie set up that counter which lead to the 2 penalty incidents. Him and Valencia had better co ordination than Jones and Valencia.
Agreed. Didn't think he would crumble but some youngsters do after an early error on debut. Was good in the air as well. Hopefully he gets a start v MK Dons in the week.
I thought he did well overall. Pleased for him. Good to get mins early in the season. Needs to be careful with his challenges around our box. On one angle I thought the Sunderland player had fooled the ref then from another angle you could see Keane pulling his arm.
He won the first challenge and the ball went towards Januzaj and Adnan just avoided the challenge and the ball went back to Sunderland 2nd player and then Keane out of position just panicked a bit. Not the worse of decisions giving a foul there if you do not know what is behind in that situation.
Expecting to see him, Thorpe and Blackett at the back vs MK Dons.. Should be interesting
I doubt Blackett will play (like anyone of the Starting XI today)
I reckon M.Keane - Evans - Rojo
Don't spoil the fun.I want a back 3 of academy products
Seriously though with Smalling injured we should save either Evans or Rojo for Burnley so Thorpe should be there.It's MK Dons and Thorpe already had Championship experience.
I thought he did well today. A bit clumsy with a missed header early when he came on. But after that he is bossing it and looks calm. Got his chance and he took it. Well done.
Don't spoil the fun.I want a back 3 of academy products
Seriously though with Smalling injured we should save either Evans or Rojo for Burnley so Thorpe should be there.It's MK Dons and Thorpe already had Championship experience.
Yeah and Thorpe deserves his chance now. Been good at every age level for us and Was comfortably better than Blackett even when both were on loan to Birmingham after his injury.
If LvG wants to keep Blackett safe too, could we see Keane, Thorpe and McNair at the back? Or will Vermijl play as the LCB instead of McNair?
If Evans is back fit as he has been training for 2 days now i think he will play.
He's hench as, is he bigger than Jones? Looks a really beefy lad.
He was one of my picks from last season to get some first team chances this season. It's mostly down to injury but I'm happy anyway. I thought he did really well. No drop of in quality between him and Smalling yesterday and without risking sounding knee-jerk (I'm not, I've watched him a lot), I think his potential is higher. Hope he starts next to Evans in tomorrow.
He made 5 out of 6 long balls from the back as per Opta. His composure on the ball and passing ability is nice addition to have.
At least we are giving youth a real chance again. That was also one of my big concerns with Moyes that it was an ABSOLUTELY wasted year. If we had finished 7th but our youth players had been a year more experienced, then it would have at least been some kind of transition. But that way it was not a year in transition, but a completely wasted year in United's history!
Who is the Michael Keane fan who wants to open his thread in the main United forum?
I just wanted to say he was a beefy lad and thought there was a protocol on opening threads of that fashion. Didn't think I was the man for that task..
Oh dear! After a decent display against Sunderland, he turns in an absolute shocker against MK Dons. Hope he can get that performance out of his system within the next few days.
He looks more of a defender than an all-rounder.
Not good enough, and that's no knee-jerk; I've never really rated him ranging right through from the last few pre-seasons, his Reserves appearances and the odd first-team one. I think he needs to move on.
Who's the poster who said he's better than Tyler Blackett?
He just hasn't impressed me for years now. Blackett has been far superior.
He is not good enough, end of
I remember he was responsible for us losing late goals against Chelsea in the league cup a few seasons ago when we were coasting to a win in the final minutes of the game