Michael Jackson Appreciation thread (positive comment only)
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Brilliant. A genius the guy was. You dont get any more of his kind these days in the music industry. He had talent. And what a talent it was. I'm gutted to say the least. He is my first ever music idol.
Gone. But definitely not forgotten.
He'll probably reach the top of the charts next week... anyone check out Amazon this morning? He holds ALL of the top 15.
Is all that really needs to be said.
For all the personal flaws and suspicion that will continue to taint him as a human being, you can never take Thriller away from him. And hats should be tipped for that alone.
an apt track
Having been around for Elvis and Lennon dying this doesn't come close. I'm not downplaying his contribution to pop music, which was huge, but I suspect that the unreality of his life means that for the majority he wasn't a real person in the same sense and therefore his death was equally unreal.
Freddie Mercury's end upset me but with MJ it was more like Indiana Jones dying as opposed to Harrison Ford dying.
Does that make sense?
Totally agree with this post. I watched a video about his life a few years ago and genuinely felt sorry for him. He never had a childhood, thanks to his overly strict, money grabbing father. The line " a star for 45 years who died at the age of 50" just about sums it up. I think, in all fairness to him, I would say he had a troubled mind. None of the allegations regarding child abuse were ever 100% proven so I'll say no more about that. As an entertainer, simply outstanding.
R.I.P. Michael.
Really? I find it hard to see how the news of any entertainer's death could be any bigger than this. All the news channels have been reporting it nonstop since the news broke.
I think it is because MJ was such a construct for most of us that his death is more like the "death" of a fictional character than the death of a human idol.
Wait a few days till news comes in from all over the world. Then you can do the comparison.
I wasnt around at the time of Elvis and Lennon's death, but they were huge news indeed. It went on for years.
It's a good point, And there's also the fact that Jackson has been out of the music spotlight for some time before his death. Having not released a new album for 8 years and not really done much in the way of touring until recently. If he had died in the early 90's however, or kept up his musical dominance until today, his death would have surpassed even Elvis' in my opinion.
Quite possibly. Particularly if he died before the paedo/weirdness stuff overtook the music.
What do you mean by 'fictional character"? It probably means someone you imagine exist, but never does. Maybe you were not around when he reached his musical peaks. I was around. He was very real back then. If you mean that he was someone you never really met and only hear his music from radio or videos on tv, then that applies to almost all other musicians does it?
Perhaps, though as they say there is no such thing as bad publicity. Which I am sure in this case Jackson might disagree, but the saying holds true in the fact that it still kept his name on peoples lips at a time when his musical influence was waning. It really is a shame, I would have loved to have hears his new musical projects and even saw him live if I had the money, he could have risen to the top of the musical world again in my opinion. God know's the mainstream industry was crying out for someone with his talent, and has been for some time
I think he is hinting that the real Jackson has been hidden beneath years of speculation, rumour and allegations. His life was almost bizarre to the extreme, and the general public has become detached from him for a while now. Nothing he did seemed to surprise us any more, and it was becoming hard to take him seriously. The real Jacko was slowly disintegrated by the weight of the world, and his own naivety, and all we were left in his place is this media created image of an almost comical character
Fair enough if that's the case. But to me, I never paid much attention to what musicians do off stage/videos/singing, a bit like what footballers do off pitch, so its not a huge problem for me. I always appreciates his musics. He is a huge musical legend in my opinion.
I have been around since his earliest days in the Jackson 5. What I was saying is that I suspect that for most people he was more of a media construct than a real person, in contrast to Lennon who was more real in people's minds than he actually was in real life, to most people.
Thus the mildly interested but hardly distraught reaction from most today.
Web struggles to cope as Michael Jackson news spreads:
The death of Michael Jackson became the biggest story ever to hit the internet, as leading websites struggled to cope with a deluge of traffic from people wanting to find out the latest news.
It was a day that showed both the power and frailty of the medium. A celebrity news site, TMZ.com, secured the scoop of a lifetime, being first to report Jackson’s death. But the site then proceeded to go down several times, unable to cope with millions of visitors flooding to it.
Other websites did not fare much better. Google, the world’s biggest search engine, believed it was under attack when the news first broke. For 35 minutes, millions of people who Googled Jackson’s name were greeted with an error page rather than a list of results.
Google said that there had been a “volcanic” surge in interest in Michael Jackson, with most of the top 100 searches on the site related to the singer.
Perez Hilton’s popular gossip blog also broke down under the weight of people rushing to the site to confirm the news. The micro-blogging service Twitter shut down temporarily, with the site receiving hundreds of thousands of tweets - messages that are only 140 characters in length - shortly after the King of Pop’s death was first reported.
“This particular news about the passing of such a global icon is the biggest jump in tweets per second since the U.S. presidential election,” said Twitter’s co-founder Biz Stone.
Internet analysts said that, at its peak, roughly 15 per cent of all posts on Twitter mentioned Michael Jackson, while Iran’s disputed presidential elections or the swine flu pandemic never reached more than 5 per cent.
All Facebook, an organisation which tracks Facebook usage, reported that Jackson’s page appears to be attracting around 20 fans a second, and fast becoming one of the top pages in all of Facebook.
There's more on:
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article6582885.ece
The web would have imploded had it been around in today's capacity in 1977 and 1980.
The accusations levelled at Jackson mean that many won't give two shits about his passing. Lennon and Presley were worshipped beyond belief and had little of the truly bad press that Jackson dealt with since Thriller flipped music on its head. It's safe to say that their deaths have had more impact than Jackson's will.
The accusations levelled at Jackson mean that many won't give two shits about his passing. Lennon and Presley were worshipped beyond belief and had little of the truly bad press that Jackson dealt with since Thriller flipped music on its head. It's safe to say that their deaths have had more impact than Jackson's will.
Was anyone here on t'internet when Kurt Cobain died?
I heard that on the radio and remember feeling kind of gutted but seriously doubt the news caused anything like this sort of hooplah. Or did it?
I heard that on the radio and remember feeling kind of gutted but seriously doubt the news caused anything like this sort of hooplah. Or did it?
Might well be true. But we will never know.
The fact is that MJ has, arguably, a lot more fans that Elvis and Lennon because of the global population exponential increase. But to be fair, Elvis and Lennon might well have more fans if they are at their peaks when MJ was at his. We will never know really. Similar to the question: Would Liverpool be bigger than United worldwide if United of 90s and beyond swap places with Liverpool of the 80s?
I do agree with that. It's normal that when someone pass away, people usually try to remember the person for what he does, professionally and personally. He might lose a lot of sympathy due to his personal life (via the media), unlike Elvis and Lennon (although they have obvious flaws here and there themselves anyway), but its the talent he had that needed remembering. We will remember a passing away of a legendary musical talent more than anything. We should.
For some reason the other thread as been merged with the dead thread so i'll post this again..
Without him, pop performing as it exists today simply wouldn't exist today (...er...yeah!) He changed popular music and his influence on performing is unsurpassable. His performance at Motown 25 is still the greatest individual live performance of all time (even though it was mimed, which is saying something).
He also, rather bizarrely, had a great affect on race relations in american music and culture.
Can't say I admired the man, but his legacy is great and will last for a long long time
Without him, pop performing as it exists today simply wouldn't exist today (...er...yeah!) He changed popular music and his influence on performing is unsurpassable. His performance at Motown 25 is still the greatest individual live performance of all time (even though it was mimed, which is saying something).
He also, rather bizarrely, had a great affect on race relations in american music and culture.
Can't say I admired the man, but his legacy is great and will last for a long long time
Yes, arguably, and owing to the longevity of Elvis's, The Beatles' and Lennon's music I think they always will have more fans. They also have the pleasure of not being accused of vile deeds in their lifetime, other than being a fat pill popper, thinking they might be bigger than Jesus and liking a bit on the side.
Jackson was especially talented, fatally so as far as him being able to enjoy a normal life in any capacity is concerned. His legacy will sadly be tainted by the negative press attention and numerous conspiracy theorists.
His music touched many people worldwide and it's unfortunate that it will not be left at that. There will always be that footnote.
One of the most talented individual, the world has witnessed.
RIP - Michael "Legend" Jackson.
RIP - Michael "Legend" Jackson.
he was a genius, amazing voice, excellent dancer, superb showman
A friend just mailed me this..
A few facts..
1. Thriller- Highest selling album of all time. More than double of the second one- ACDC's album.
2. Beat It- Changed the face of POP culture. Also, the first song with a music video that tells a story. Revolutionised TV.
3. Billie Jean- The first moonwalk! The greatest performer of all time was born!!
4. Black or White- First screening of the song gave HBO its best ever TV viewing. 500 million people watched it worldwide!
5. We are the world- MJ collaborates with some of the best singers in the world- Bruce Springsteen, Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles, Diane Ross, Lionel Ritchie to make a song for Africa.
6. Heal the world- Performance of this song for Superbowl 27 gave US television its biggest ratings ever and till date! viewed by 135 MILLION americans alone!!
7. Scream- by him and his sister Janet is the most expensive video of all time!
8. Finally, Michael Jackson has 13 Guinness World Records, 19 Grammies, 22 World Music Awards etc etc.. a total of 197 MAJOR MUSIC AWARDS- unprecedented!!
Rest in Peace, MJ!!
A few facts..
1. Thriller- Highest selling album of all time. More than double of the second one- ACDC's album.
2. Beat It- Changed the face of POP culture. Also, the first song with a music video that tells a story. Revolutionised TV.
3. Billie Jean- The first moonwalk! The greatest performer of all time was born!!
4. Black or White- First screening of the song gave HBO its best ever TV viewing. 500 million people watched it worldwide!
5. We are the world- MJ collaborates with some of the best singers in the world- Bruce Springsteen, Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles, Diane Ross, Lionel Ritchie to make a song for Africa.
6. Heal the world- Performance of this song for Superbowl 27 gave US television its biggest ratings ever and till date! viewed by 135 MILLION americans alone!!
7. Scream- by him and his sister Janet is the most expensive video of all time!
8. Finally, Michael Jackson has 13 Guinness World Records, 19 Grammies, 22 World Music Awards etc etc.. a total of 197 MAJOR MUSIC AWARDS- unprecedented!!
Rest in Peace, MJ!!
A tribute song:
Diddy Featuring Polow, Game, Chris Brown & Boyz to Men:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/61893854139d0e6b/
Diddy Featuring Polow, Game, Chris Brown & Boyz to Men:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/61893854139d0e6b/
A bit Benitez-like, this "fact". Even Jackson all but admitted learning it from Jeffrey Daniel of Shalamar, who performed it on TV over a year before.
His work with the Jackson 5 shouldn't be undermined neither.
Tha Game - Better On The Other feat. Chris Brown Diddy Polow DA Don Usher Boyz II Men
guess the point is we now associate the moonwalk with him and not Jeffrey Daniel.
quality
If that's the point then the statement that it is the first moonwalk is not making it, which was my point..
Who Is It- Great song with damn good video compilation, the bass of this song is fecking nutz
80 posts in the mj appreciation thread - and 1100 in the other one!
very unfair imo
very unfair imo