His first touch reminded me of Rooney in the #9 role last season, and like Rooney he can't get turned on the ball and hasn't got enough acceleration off the mark.
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He's too bulky. I am surprised by his lack of pace for a supposed winger. We know Mata isn't a wide man, so we don't expect pace, but this lad is supposed to be one.
Memphis isn't very good but he is twice the player Lingard is in ability. Lingard has the edge in pure passion and hard work though.
Overall, Both these 2 should not be at the club and won't be in the next 12 months. I'd say Januzaj is in the same boat to, although I would give Adnan one more chance as he has shown more potential for us, even if it was in a small spell.
He's trash isn't he?
Will never make it here.
Will never make it here.
Against poor teams he does well. Just as he did in the Dutch League.
When he comes against any decent opponents - he is terrible.
This has been true for almost every game he has ever played for MUFC.
How can anybody believe that he is will improve or is better than what he showed last season and is continuing to show this season?
When he comes against any decent opponents - he is terrible.
This has been true for almost every game he has ever played for MUFC.
How can anybody believe that he is will improve or is better than what he showed last season and is continuing to show this season?
I won't get tired of saying this. With Rashford or Januzaj you can clearly see the talent they potentially have. Unfortunately the same can't be said about Memphis.
A nothing player.
I can't see the talent, not even flashes.
Ability is useless unless it's displayed on the field. He hasn't shown as much in his performances for Utd as Lingard has. Which says a lot given how Lingard is nowhere near good enough. The occasional trick against a team of sub par players isn't evidence of this ability Depay is alleged to have.
Runs like he has a bag of sand tied to his legs. His body is more like that of a body builder or a weight lifter than a sprinter. Too much muscle can slow you down, as they need more oxygen to burn. Another factor is muscle fiber types (fast twitch vs. slow twitch) and that is mostly determined by genetics and somewhat affected by style of training.
Exactly. Whether Januzaj or Rashford will be succusful it has to be seen but at least they give you those moments of awe when you gasp at seeing their talent at display.
Even when Memphis is playing well he is just so mechanical and plain. Literally the most skillful thing I can think of is how he controlled the ball with his feet once.
Dont joke
Sell
Don't really rate him and I agree with lots of what people are saying about him, but I do think he should be given another season with us to prove his worth. That he's not really shown anything yet to get people excited about him does have me worried though.
There just doesn't seem to be any ability there. All he's every shown are flashes of flashes (that skill against Arsenal at the end of the game at OT is the only technically impressive thing I've seen from him).
Even his strengths (cutting in and shooting) are piss-poor when he isn't given the same space he got in Holland. He's also very slow for a winger. He might have a good top speed, but there's zero acceleration and that's what is important in getting away from defenders.
You can say this is just preseason yada yada yada, but in over a season at the club, I haven't seen anything to show he has any talent. We need to get another winger in, and boot this lad out.
Even his strengths (cutting in and shooting) are piss-poor when he isn't given the same space he got in Holland. He's also very slow for a winger. He might have a good top speed, but there's zero acceleration and that's what is important in getting away from defenders.
You can say this is just preseason yada yada yada, but in over a season at the club, I haven't seen anything to show he has any talent. We need to get another winger in, and boot this lad out.
Don't be absurd.
Lingard might actually be worse than Memphis. It is possible.
Said it when we signed him, he just isnt that good and only excelled in the dutch league because the Dutch leugue is shit and he was stronger and faster than almost all of his opponents. When playing for PSV he wasnt impressive in Europa League matches because stronger opponents.
A lot of people on this forum wanted to believe we signed the new Ronaldo but Memphis is closer to the being the new Bebe...
Total waste of money...
A lot of people on this forum wanted to believe we signed the new Ronaldo but Memphis is closer to the being the new Bebe...
Total waste of money...
Why do people keep bringing up his build as a factor in him being slow? Have you actually looked at the physiques of top sprinters? They're very muscular. It may be affecting his agility not much else.
Some poster said it best ,the Dutch league is full of scarecrow defenders.
In a proper league, most of this players are rudely exposed.Yes ,few gems due to pass through ,but he just doesn't seem like one
In a proper league, most of this players are rudely exposed.Yes ,few gems due to pass through ,but he just doesn't seem like one
Don't be absurd.
How is it absurd though?
What is Lingard better at technically then? Passion and 'he tries hard' isn't a skill.
What is Depay better at?
In their time at united lingard has been comfortably better.
The fact you cannot even state one thing proves it to me that there is none.
It's like asking what's more useful; a chocolate teapot or a snooze button on a smoke alarm. They're both equally useless.
He hasn't even claimed Lingard is better than Memphis, your hyperbole of "twice the player in ability" is just ridiculous. Both aren't great on the ball. Memphis supposedly is but never shows it, so it counts for shit.
So you can't name one thing Depay is better at and think he has twice the ability. OK then.
technique isnt the only thing in football.....Depay probably edges Jesse in technical areas but Jesse is twice the player which isnt difficult as Depay is awful.
Sound ridiculous naming these things because he has been poor for us, but if I have to...
Memphis is better at beating a man. Memphis is a better finisher. Better at set pieces. He is quicker too arguably. And I still don't rate the guy
Sound ridiculous naming these things because he has been poor for us, but if I have to...
Memphis is better at beating a man. Memphis is a better finisher. Better at set pieces. He is quicker too arguably. And I still don't rate the guy
Memphis is a shit dribbler. His finishing has been very poor and his freekicks are appalling.
Lingard is quicker, better passer, better at 1-2's around the box and isn't dogshit against any half decent team.
BRILLIANT!!!
So, which is Memphis: the chocolate teapot or the snooze button on a smoke alarm?
Last season he scored 2 league goals in 1478 minutes (approx 16.4 full games).
I feel that if he stays in the EPL, like Falco before him, he will damage his career and reputation.
Previously, Falcao had a reputaiton for being crap (for MUFC). But it was only one season.
He moved to Chelsea and it was confirmed - he was crap.
Memphis is now at the same stage. For MUFC he is crap (no one can argue against this, with a straight face).
If he stays in the EPL for another season and is crap again, he'll be "done".
If he can leave the EPL now, he may have a chance to do well in another league and the MUFC season, may be written off as an anomaly. His reputation will still be in tact and he may get a "big" move in a few years.
I stated this last season, that Falcao must leave the EPL, to save his reputation. Another season in the EPL could end him. I am now stating exactly the same about about Memphis.
PS. Lingard vs Memphis.
Lingard scored in the FA Cup final. He scored 1 goal every 408 minutes. (which is quite poor)
Memphis scored 1 goal every 739 minutes. (this sort of statistic gets you sold quickly)
I can only assume that those who believe Memphis is better, perhaps have not seen Memphis play a game.
I feel that if he stays in the EPL, like Falco before him, he will damage his career and reputation.
Previously, Falcao had a reputaiton for being crap (for MUFC). But it was only one season.
He moved to Chelsea and it was confirmed - he was crap.
Memphis is now at the same stage. For MUFC he is crap (no one can argue against this, with a straight face).
If he stays in the EPL for another season and is crap again, he'll be "done".
If he can leave the EPL now, he may have a chance to do well in another league and the MUFC season, may be written off as an anomaly. His reputation will still be in tact and he may get a "big" move in a few years.
I stated this last season, that Falcao must leave the EPL, to save his reputation. Another season in the EPL could end him. I am now stating exactly the same about about Memphis.
PS. Lingard vs Memphis.
Lingard scored in the FA Cup final. He scored 1 goal every 408 minutes. (which is quite poor)
Memphis scored 1 goal every 739 minutes. (this sort of statistic gets you sold quickly)
I can only assume that those who believe Memphis is better, perhaps have not seen Memphis play a game.
He's shit. He only turns up against pub teams and that's where his best performances have come.
Sell him now and we might get some of the fee back or we'd be selling him for £5m next year
Sell him now and we might get some of the fee back or we'd be selling him for £5m next year
No idea how Bayern, PSG and United among others were so interested in him because based on his United games, there is very little talent there and not much useful physical ability either.
Sound ridiculous naming these things because he has been poor for us, but if I have to...
Memphis is better at beating a man. Memphis is a better finisher. Better at set pieces. He is quicker too arguably. And I still don't rate the guy
Are you sure it's not the other way round?
I think Lingard can strike the ball better than Depay.
I'd say. Our Jesse scored a belter in the final where was Depay though? Ah the lad was sat in the stands, bless him.
Weren't they rumours that Real Madrid were supposedly interested in Bebe and that was the reason we rushed the deal ?
Was that true. who knows Don't believe everything you read .
It does seem that Memphis was a panic buy - rushed because PSG were ready to offer him a deal.
If we had taken more time on due diligence, would we still have bought him?
Yes LVG wanted him
I hope we no longer have posters mechanically trotting about how he's obviously talented anymore. It's becoming increasingly obvious that this guy isn't that good and never was to begin with. He'll improve, no doubt but I doubt he's ever going to turn out into a player we'll regret selling.
Not sure about that. Depay has a good shot. The rest of his game is shite though
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