Nani
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- Appearances
- 45
- Goals
- 7
- Assists
- 5
- Yellow cards
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The one reason for me why Martial might achieve more than Memphis is speed. Martial has genuine pace whereas Memphis really doesn't. Ronaldo has that too and in time has added so much more to his game. Messi on the other hand sort of drifts by defenders but has so much skill it's untrue. Those two represent sky high for me (a term I did not introduce to the conversation, but commented on after another poster did).
Martial has quick feet and speed and with those two basic attributes I think his ceiling is higher than Memphis'. All depends on how hard they work to improve other areas of their game of course though.
It's weird, he's not looked great overall but then he has 4 goals and 4 assists in 12 games.
What I will say is I honestly prefer seeing him on the pitch to Di Maria.
Also remember most of us said at the start that he will be frustrating and not to expect an immediate impact.
What I will say is I honestly prefer seeing him on the pitch to Di Maria.
Also remember most of us said at the start that he will be frustrating and not to expect an immediate impact.
Yes, Ronaldo struggled initially but at 21 he was a much more developed player than Memphis. At the age of 22 Ronaldo started the 07/08 season in which he scored 42 goals. Can you see Memphis scoring 42 goals next season? Memphis will be a very good player, I have zero doubt about that. I think he'll reach the level of Sanchez and that's a very high level.
I don't really understand why Nani is a criticism. A younger version of Nani isn't a horrible prospect. I mean, Nani was actually quite good, wasn't he?
He was very good - better at that point in his career/life than Memphis is if you ask me.
Really? At 21 Nani had come off scoring 6 goals in 40 games in Portugal, whereas Depay scored 28 in 40 in Holland, including 6 in Europe. I think your opinion is a little premature.
It's not all about goals though is it? Nani was never a big goalscorer, more a creator. He dribbled and had pace. I think perhaps the comparison is indeed a little flawed though insomuch as at 21 Nani indeed hadn't done more than Memphis, on that point I stand corrected. What I was really getting at was that I agreed that Nani isn't a criticism.
I agree that Nani isn't a criticism. If Depay can reach Nani's top level which was IIRC about 2010 ish, and be consistent, he'll be an excellent asset.
I'll be delighted if he turns out as good as Nani at his best was for us, and even more delighted if he can sustain that type of form for a few seasons.
Yes, because Young has the stats to back up such a high level of end product.
Same story with every young player we sign. This is De Gea all over again.
de gea was taken out of the team! it helped him progress
Memphis is struggling at the moment, a spell out of the limelight might damage his confidence slightly short term but less so than if he's allowed to continue to put In woefull performances.
if its tiredness, form or a combination it wont do him any harm to come off the bench after an hour on sunday
allowing young players to struggles hinders progress not helps it
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I said that. he's the opposite of most young wingers, nani included. Typically they beat 3 or 4 players and then sky the cross / shot.
Memphis has barley beat a man since he has arrived but his goals and assists have shown very high qaulity
First part. I do to. He tries and really plays for the club and I like what I saw so far.
Second part. It is classic caf thread this. I am laughing at how so many posters tried to be not to excited about this signing with saying 'he will need time', 'we have to be patient', 'i hope LVG will have patience with him' - all trying to look like knowledgeable people with patience for young players.
Fast forward one month or so the same people are questioning about his qualities, about his composure, want him to be dropped and questioning LVG why he give him so much minutes.
And all that has been said in a period when he scored 4 and assisted 4 in 12 games and when he showed glimpses of his potential in every game.
That's because he isn't really a winger (in traditional sense). He barely dribbles past defenders as you said, but he gets into a lot of goalscoring situations. He has striker instincts rather a wide man.
He does remind me of current Ronaldo in terms of style- his mind is set on finding some space to shoot, whether in or outside the box.
Not sure why you feel that people who suggested LVG be patient with him later saying he should be rested/dropped/played for fewer minutes are contradicting themselves when in fact they are all maintaining their original view - namely that he needs time, perhaps he should be brought along slowly i.e. not played in every nearly every match.
When he's faced by 2 or 3 defenders, he always seems to decide it's a good idea to run directly at them. That might have worked in Holland, but it won't work at the highest level.
It's only going to take a small change in his instincts to fix but, once he figures out he's not invincible, he'll be a much better player. A simple pass or a knock-and-run is often the best option. If he did that once in a while, it'd put doubts in his opponents' minds and give him more space.
It's only going to take a small change in his instincts to fix but, once he figures out he's not invincible, he'll be a much better player. A simple pass or a knock-and-run is often the best option. If he did that once in a while, it'd put doubts in his opponents' minds and give him more space.
Not very similar to Nani. That's a lazy comparison. Nani was a much better dribbler,more agile and faster. Depay is stronger and more direct,ultimately much more of a goal threat.
Looks a clumsy braindead cnut.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...s-Manchester-Chris-Brown-s-ex-girlfriend.html
Quite concerning to me, I know he is enjoying his life but don't like the fact he seems so distracted this soon into his United career.
Quite concerning to me, I know he is enjoying his life but don't like the fact he seems so distracted this soon into his United career.
Oh wow.
He does though, doing some dumb amateurish shit at the moment.
You don't like that he went shopping with his girlfriend?
Your wording is strong to say the least.
It's annoying me, constantly coughing the ball up.
It's not just that if you look at the full situation. He was seen in a nightclub with her over the weekend wearing a Gold Grill being all flashy and now he is all over the papers with her (Chris Brown's ex, a girl who will do anything for attention). It's just not great that when he should be knuckling down on his football, he seems to be a bit distracted.
The amount of assuming and jumping to conclusions...
Got to try justify his poor form some how
Yeah, on second thoughts, lets blame the chick
Players are allowed to go out and enjoy themselves you know. Who cares who he is dating or what he wears? There is no doubt in my mind that he's working hard to improve on the pitch and he's working hard during games as well. What do you think players do after they're done training for the day? Just live in the gym?
Really never got this obsession people have with worrying about what players do with their own time. All that matters is him on the pitch, off of it, it really doesn't matter what he does. Van Gaal definitely wouldn't be picking him if he wasn't working hard anyway.
Ronaldo had also been in the league for three years at the age of 21. It makes a huge difference.
I'd prefer it if he was allowed to stay out wide.
I don't get the frustration from the fans, whoever compared him to Bebe need to be banned from society.
He's obviously a big personality, you can see him getting mad out there, his celebrations strike me more as someone sticking our their chests saying, "I told you so" than the simple easy joy on James Wilson's face when he scores.
But I like that in a football player, you need to hate to lose. Lots of players thrive on a desire to prove themselves, to break records, rather than just the plain enjoyment of playing.
I'm not worried about him, I hope he just keeps up the good work.
He's obviously a big personality, you can see him getting mad out there, his celebrations strike me more as someone sticking our their chests saying, "I told you so" than the simple easy joy on James Wilson's face when he scores.
But I like that in a football player, you need to hate to lose. Lots of players thrive on a desire to prove themselves, to break records, rather than just the plain enjoyment of playing.
I'm not worried about him, I hope he just keeps up the good work.
found it@GifLord can we have a gif of where Memphis held the ball up with the defender tight behind him, won the free kick and then sent the defender flyinghis upper body strength is very impressive
this kid has the raw materials....I'm not worried in the slightest
patience will pay off - for every Martial - a player who hits the ground running - I'd say there are a few who struggle initially with a new club, new country, new manager, new tactics, new expectations, new team mates etc...
patience will pay off - for every Martial - a player who hits the ground running - I'd say there are a few who struggle initially with a new club, new country, new manager, new tactics, new expectations, new team mates etc...
He was shit. Horrible. Really really poor. Gash. And a clumsy brain dead cnut.
Wow, just wow. I don't have an issue with anyone saying that he needs to improve (he does) but some of these over the top exaggerations people use to try and make their case sounds more like desperation to get noticed on the forum than an analysis of his performance. While I think some of this is trolling, I think some of you may actually believe this and I just don't see the same thing (needs to improve but far from a shitty, horrible, clumsy brain dead cnut).
Yesterday he had an average game imo, but was a little better than the last game. He did some things well but shot a couple times when he should have passed and I think his last bit of business on the pitch he passed when I would have liked to have seen him shoot. Personally I think swapping with AY right now would be premature, I have always thought the best way to get to the next level is to play. And while obviously a lot disagree on how his play has been, we are not losing games because of him. In fact, I think we are doing well all around and the players are still getting to know each other.
I haven't been to the Pereira thread today, can't imagine what vile things he is being called!!
Wow, just wow. I don't have an issue with anyone saying that he needs to improve (he does) but some of these over the top exaggerations people use to try and make their case sounds more like desperation to get noticed on the forum than an analysis of his performance. While I think some of this is trolling, I think some of you may actually believe this and I just don't see the same thing (needs to improve but far from a shitty, horrible, clumsy brain dead cnut).
Yesterday he had an average game imo, but was a little better than the last game. He did some things well but shot a couple times when he should have passed and I think his last bit of business on the pitch he passed when I would have liked to have seen him shoot. Personally I think swapping with AY right now would be premature, I have always thought the best way to get to the next level is to play. And while obviously a lot disagree on how his play has been, we are not losing games because of him. In fact, I think we are doing well all around and the players are still getting to know each other.
I haven't been to the Pereira thread today, can't imagine what vile things he is being called!!
The people saying he played awful yesterday seem way over the top to me. Simply put if he had finished the two goal scoring opportunities he had instead of getting stopped by the keeper I'd almost guarantee everybody would be singing his praises. Obviously not finishing is worth some criticism, but I thought he actually played fairly well yesterday despite losing the ball a couple of times which is always going to happen to a player as direct as him.
I agree with those saying he needs to pick his head up a bit more, diversify his game (which he did a bit yesterday putting in a couple of very nice crosses) and keep it a bit more simple at times. I'd probably give him a 6/10 yesterday and overall for the season, which is about what I expected from him to start off.
I agree with those saying he needs to pick his head up a bit more, diversify his game (which he did a bit yesterday putting in a couple of very nice crosses) and keep it a bit more simple at times. I'd probably give him a 6/10 yesterday and overall for the season, which is about what I expected from him to start off.
He is though.
impressive there, but many more times he seems to lose it a bit flimsy.
Yesterday he didn't half give someone a forearm smash though! If it was Fellaini, the guy wouldn't have got back up!
And he had the chance to work under one of the best managers ever.
A Tran you mean?!
I like the fact that he/she is willing to embrace his/her ambiguity..... unlike the cowardly Iranians, hiding behind the head-wear/scarf.
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