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2015-16 Performances

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5.4 Season Average Rating
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Considering some of the shite we held onto for years, binning this lad after a season would be daft.
 
Why are some people calling him fat and overweight? He's ripped with muscles with extremely low body fat. If anything, he probably uses the gym too much
 
I watched back the highlights of the brugge game earlier and he looked class, he was turning players easily doing good stuff and scored 2 worldies.

I know brugge are crap but is clear he has talent just needs to not be a cocky prick.
 
I know a guy I met in Birmingham some years ago. He's Belgian and West Brom were interested in paying £5m for him an U21 (West Brom + £5m a couple of years ago!, for a youth player?!?). So must have been pretty good. After a couple of weeks on trial in England, he said "Football in England is not bad but it is very very hard!" This guy is physically fit and technically good but the levels in England is a massive shock for foreign players, physically, mentally, socially and even emotionally. He is now plying his trade in lower leagues after he cancelled his contract in Belgium. He wants to play in the top flight but he chose to "rinse" off all what he ever knew in Belgium and adapt to English football.

This is just to give a idea of how adaptation is crucial
 
Speak said:
Not one of them would start for those teams you mentioned.
Which is basically the biggest issue.

This squad is made up of players that wouldn't get into the first eleven of any serious team.

As for Memphis: he's got very little quality to his game. He can shoot, and that's about it. Unless he's running onto a moving ball or shooting, he's not contributing anything useful.
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Rightly spotted that none would start but would be in less stressful situations, so to speak to bring out the best in them.

His last year at PSV suggests he has more to his game than just shooting but the other attributes require the player to go over and beyond what he is used to to bring them out. I'm totally excusing new player as they must take a major responsibility for their development. But overwhelming pressure doesn't help.
 
I still think he has something about him underneath all the woeful performances. His attitude does worry me though.
 
SATA said:
Why are some people calling him fat and overweight? He's ripped with muscles with extremely low body fat. If anything, he probably uses the gym too much
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Overweight doesn't necessarily have to be in a negative sense. Not everyone can carry the kind of muscle mass Ronaldo did and keep his speed and agility. Memphis seems to be losing his.
 
SATA said:
Why are some people calling him fat and overweight? He's ripped with muscles with extremely low body fat. If anything, he probably uses the gym too much
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He appears to be getting bulkier by the month, and it seems to of slowed him down to a snails pace. I know myself through playing rugby that when I bulked that the more bulkier I got the less agile I felt and that's exactly what seems to of happened to Memphis. He used to be more than capable of beating defenders before hand.
 
This could go either way really. Martial has shown he will be a good signing, Depay just not enough and I don't see it getting much better any time soon.
 
I do love how many people on here have become experts in strength and conditioning.

Memphis has a low body fat percetage, and looking at his frame I'd argue he's probably lb for lb the strongest player in the squad.

Something isn't right though, because he just isn't showing his talents. PSG, Liverpool and most top sides around Europe wanted him for a reason.

I don't think the current formation suits him, as he isn't really a winger but more of a inside forward. A move to a 433 would suit him better.
 
He just has 0 confidence. He has flashes of quality in some of the really good goals he has scored. He can still come good.
 
Play him against Sheffield in the cup if he needs confidence, we've got far too much ground to make up in the league for him to be stinking the place up.
 
People need to remember in terms of muscular players in regard to speed... Look at Valencia he has always been an absolute tank but had incredible pace. There are plenty of players who are in the same boat as well, depays problem isn't muscle it's what's in his head.
 
Tosicsleftpeg said:
People need to remember in terms of muscular players in regard to speed... Look at Valencia he has always been an absolute tank but had incredible pace. There are plenty of players who are in the same boat as well, depays problem isn't muscle it's what's in his head.
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Nope, at Wigan and his first year here that's not really true.
 
He clearly has talent.

You only need to look at the flashes of brilliance he's shown to see that.

I'm not comfortable with the panning he's taking, primarily because he's young and in a new environment.

Plus, we can't really hammer Memphis when players considerably more experienced are letting the club down.
 
Loan out Wilson and Januzaj, buys Depay..

VG masterclass....

Not suggesting Depay shouldnt have been bought but he never proved more than Wilson or Januzaj here, perhaps VG underestimated his transition..
 
Reading some people on caf makes me feel that Januzaj was a mini version of CR7, but was purposefully kept out so that we could play lesser talents.
 
There is no doubt that with all the hype and a number of clubs allegedly wanting him he has disappointed this season. He needs to humble up a bit and get back to basics for a while to adapt to the demands of the PL. Loan him out to a Championship side for 6 months. It will be an eye opener for him.
 
Tosicsleftpeg said:
People need to remember in terms of muscular players in regard to speed... Look at Valencia he has always been an absolute tank but had incredible pace. There are plenty of players who are in the same boat as well, depays problem isn't muscle it's what's in his head.
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He's said himself that he feels slower because of all the weight he's added. And it's obvious just watching him that his acceleration and agility are notably worse than when we signed him.

I agree with people saying we should try him as a striker for a little bit. He was decent there against Watford.
 
Feed Me said:
He clearly has talent.

You only need to look at the flashes of brilliance he's shown to see that.

I'm not comfortable with the panning he's taking, primarily because he's young and in a new environment.

Plus, we can't really hammer Memphis when players considerably more experienced are letting the club down.
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Ah yes, In that one game against Brugge's reserves.
 
AngeloHenriquez said:
Loan out Wilson and Januzaj, buys Depay..

VG masterclass....

Not suggesting Depay shouldnt have been bought but he never proved more than Wilson or Januzaj here, perhaps VG underestimated his transition..
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More than Wilson without a doubt, what exactly has he proven? Besides they're not even in contention with each other. Januzaj arguably shouldn't have been loaned out, definitely not to Dortmund, but that has nothing to do with Depay who again he doesn't really contend with. Januzaj hasn't exactly been tearing it up in recent times either.
 
I wonder if his best position might end up being second striker/striker i.e central.
 
JohnnyLaw said:
More than Wilson without a doubt, what exactly has he proven? Besides they're not even in contention with each other. Januzaj arguably shouldn't have been loaned out, definitely not to Dortmund, but that has nothing to do with Depay who again he doesn't really contend with. Januzaj hasn't exactly been tearing it up in recent times either.
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Well you agreed about Januzaj so that makes sense, Wilson you claim isnt in competition with Depay, uet both have played striker and winger for us, i cant prove that Wilson has played better in England as I think its relatively close, but thats my point.. Why let one go and let one stay? We would have had ample space, he needed to drop Rooney IMO but doesnt have the players.. Who do we ever have on the bench recently who is a good attacker? Anyway its the Depay thread, I dont think we shouldnt have bought him, he will come good but it seems he needs to get that desire back, due to lack of personnel, despite being pulled off at half time in a quarter of the PL games this season, in our last match, he was the best option attacking wise and I think he knows he will play regardless, if Wilson and Januzaj (glad Pereira is getting mins) were here, that would be different..
 
No. He does show flashes of real skill and he does work his arse off.
 
Akash said:
It obviously is which is why LVG started off with him there before being fooled by the Brugge performance.
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Because it might make a lot of sense given he's strong, quick and potentially a goalscorer based on his title-starring exploits with PSV.

On face value, players suited to being stuck out wide should be those who are natural dribblers (which Memphis is not), and those with rapid pace playing as out and out wingers (like old Valencia).
 
Black Adder said:
Double standards, mistake is mistake, no matter who made it.
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Well you're right but Martial has bought himself time with the level of performances he has delivered this season. Their level of ability on the ball is world apart from each other.
 
There are so many examples of young players taking a while to adapt and show any sort of quality when moving to this league, I don't really understand the need to make sweeping judgements now, or for at least another 6 months for that matter.
Someone mentioned Lamela - different style of player, but same position, similar cost, and also looked completely useless in his first couple of seasons. Granted, I don't watch Spurs as much as us, but I didn't see too many people claiming they could see the talent in him back then.
 
Adisa said:
Well you're right but Martial has bought himself time with the level of performances he has delivered this season. Their level of ability on the ball is world apart from each other.
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I agree with you, there's no doubt who's more talented between the two.

Just wanted to show that even players with better technique and better ball control still can make silly mistakes so there's no reason to ridicule Depay for trying something while making excuses when Martial fails with his attempt.
 
AngeloHenriquez said:
Well you agreed about Januzaj so that makes sense, Wilson you claim isnt in competition with Depay, uet both have played striker and winger for us, i cant prove that Wilson has played better in England as I think its relatively close, but thats my point.. Why let one go and let one stay? We would have had ample space, he needed to drop Rooney IMO but doesnt have the players.. Who do we ever have on the bench recently who is a good attacker? Anyway its the Depay thread, I dont think we shouldnt have bought him, he will come good but it seems he needs to get that desire back, due to lack of personnel, despite being pulled off at half time in a quarter of the PL games this season, in our last match, he was the best option attacking wise and I think he knows he will play regardless, if Wilson and Januzaj (glad Pereira is getting mins) were here, that would be different..
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Wilson has played on the wing on occasion but never on the right, which is Depays main position, and Van Gaal would've never thought play him there. Also, Depay would've started over Wilson as a striker anyways and rightfully so. Wilson hasn't proven anything anywhere outside of the u21s, he hasn't really made an impact at all in the first team since his debut and just isn't good enough at this time to really push anyone for a spot as poor as they are. Not getting any game time isn't great for kid developing, therefore he was loaned out. The same points also apply to Januzaj although to a lesser extent. I could argue that their role in the squad just aren't valuable enough to justify keeping them from playing and developing elsewhere, I don't think that their absence has played any significant role in our current predicament at all.
 
I wonder why Wijnaldum didn't have any problems fitting in at Newcastle, he's been one of their best players.
 
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