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The moment he gets the ball you know he is going to cut inside and take a shot with his right foot. He is so predictable. What is more interesting is that there is no overlapping defender coming on the wing to stretch defenses and support him either.

:-(
 
If he doesn't show himself to be a proper player in the second half of the season, we should consider a loan out to a smaller club.
 
That is absolutely ridiculous :lol:
Made me laugh too. It's the sort of thing I used to expect from Keiron Richardson, not a 25 million pound signing.

I still feel he has to be given time and patience, but as suggested above, if he continues to struggling during the second half of the season, we should consider a loan where he hopefully replicates his psv heroics/does a de bruyne.
 
He needs to get his head down and start slogging it out. IMO he's come into the team and this league extremely complacent thinking he can waltz past whoever he wants and pull off whatever he tries. He needs to start using his head a little bit more.
 
He needs to cut out that rockstar Dwayne Johnson look, shave off those ridiculous sideburns, come to training in a sensible car and really put in the hours on the field.

He's 21, not really achieved or done much and thinks he's already made it as a footballer.
This also says it all.
 
He needs putting in the reserves until he improves on every aspect of his game. Comes across as a classic 'too much, too soon' young footballer who thinks he is far better than he is showing. It's very hard not to dislike him at the moment but that is due to the image he gets from the press and social media. That said, his choice of vehicle kind of reflects his personality, so he is making it difficult.
As it stands, another glorious waste of money so far. Good job age is on his side.
Imagine if Roy Keene was still captain of our club? This joker would have been bullied into being a better man by now.
 
guys and gals, maybe this is what he needs - a fecked up season where he gets put back in his place - just like Luke did last season and we all saw the difference in him this season before you know what happened.

Maybe the fact his history is fecked up, he had issues, he conquered them and took the Eredivisie by storm last season should give us hope.

Maybe he'll go away over the summer, gets a manager who believes in him and lets him "see the light" about what football is all about again and we go on to get a brilliant no. 7

i'm not writing him off yet - don't think it's fair. He's Dutch, living in Manch with no mates at the age of 21 - you tell me you'll do much better. Maybe he's at home wondering what to do with his money other than drink it away or spend it on prostitutes so he goes and buys a RR that he's been looking at for ages

and i'm one of the worst for his hopes but i just hate the way so many are writing him off as a loss / loser etc after 5 months in the PL

Episode II - a new hope folks

I think Shaw and Memphis have different attitudes and that is why I don't expect Memphis to turn things around as dramatically as Shaw did. I'm disappointed because I heard from many people before he signed that Memphis was very grounded and isn't an arrogant type person but since he has arrived we have seen the complete opposite. Plus he needs to start leaning out because he is getting bulkier by the month it seems.
 
He needs to get his head down and start slogging it out. IMO he's come into the team and this league extremely complacent thinking he can waltz past whoever he wants and pull off whatever he tries. He needs to start using his head a little bit more.

Honestly if I was 21 and rich like him I'd buy the same cars... minus the crazy sideburns though.
 
I was groaning when I saw him coming in instead of Pereira.
 
I think it's just a real lottery when you buy a player from the Dutch league. The defences are so poor that there's no real indication how good they are. For every Suarez or RVN there are several Ryan Babbels.
 
Better off keeping Januzaj.
 
Unfair to judge him at the moment, IMO. His confidence is shot and he's playing in a team that has completely broken down. I think in a season or two he will be a good player for us.
 
His confidence is absolutely gone

Not a fan of mocking and laughing at him, as I feel quite sorry for the chap

What we saw early on was a clear talent and very exciting too. But it's all gone for now

If we had a big enough squad he should be left out for a few weeks completely
 
Unfair to judge him at the moment, IMO. His confidence is shot and he's playing in a team that has completely broken down. I think in a season or two he will be a good player for us.

True. Our team has plenty of deadweight who need to be shown the door as soon as possible, but Depay's still quite young, and only in his first season. Whether he will fulfill his potential remains unseen, but I do think we'll start to see a lot more from him in time...might be into next season though.
 
He was ok at best when he first signed... now he looks as useful as a traffic cone on a football pitch, probably even less useful than that. He's becoming Bendtner level of joke now.
 
Still seeing posters saying his talent is clear. I'm not seeing it. This guy can't dribble to save his life. He takes ages to get the ball out of his feet. I'm also seeing posters saying he was good earlier on in the season. He has struggled in virtually every premierleague game.
He has very poor technique with the ball at his feet. I don't care if people call me knee jerk. You can check my thread history, I have been calling him out for his poor dribbling since he was at PSV. Once we buy more wingers, something I think we will do, he will be in big trouble.
I don't think his troubles are a confidence issue, I think it's a technical issue and unfortunately, I'm not optimistic.
 
He's 21, not really achieved or done much and thinks he's already made it as a footballer.

He is on a big fat contract, earning mega-bucks.
As far as he is concerned, he has already "made it".

Remember, some people are happy to have "made it" by age 21, then effectively retire.
Others (like C.Ronaldo), work their behind off to get even better and attain elite levels of performance.
I think D.Bentley and T.Cleverley also fall into Memphis' level (ie. good initial talent/ability, but then they were content to be at that level).
 
Yeha, write a 21 year old talent off in his first PL-season. Noone has ever struggled in their first PL-season.

I guess most of you lot should be glad that this forum didnt excist during the emerge of CO92, guess most of you would've wanted us to get rid of those lot as well.. No patience with the fans of this club these days, it's ridiculous.
 
Yeha, write a 21 year old talent off in his first PL-season. Noone has ever struggled in their first PL-season.

I guess most of you lot should be glad that this forum didnt excist during the emerge of CO92, guess most of you would've wanted us to get rid of those lot as well.. No patience with the fans of this club these days, it's ridiculous.

Well no, because you could clearly see their talent from the start. With Memphis it's been very hard to see what he is good at, especially for the money we paid to get him in. He has played 2 good games in half a season, it isn't good enough for an International calibre player. Add to the fact he has an ego issue and looks overweight \ too bulky for a player who is meant to be a fairly quick winger.
 
Well no, because you could clearly see their talent from the start. With Memphis it's been very hard to see what he is good at, especially for the money we paid to get him in. He has played 2 good games in half a season, it isn't good enough for an International calibre player. Add to the fact he has an ego issue and looks overweight \ too bulky for a player who is meant to be a fairly quick winger.

Did you write off Evra and Vidic after the first few months as well? Should've we gotten rid of those guys as well?

The last part is simply ridiculous, but you are entitled to your own opinion not matter how bizzare I find it.
 
Did you write off Evra and Vidic after the first few months as well? Should've we gotten rid of those guys as well?

The last part is simply ridiculous, but you are entitled to your own opinion however bizzare I find it.

I don't understand why you keep bringing separate players into the argument. Evra and Vidic struggled but you could see the talent was there and they certainly didn't have the ego and entitled attitude that Memphis has where he feels he has 'made it' already. In fact I'd argue Evra and Vidic were 2 of the most grounded players we have had in the last 10 years.

I do think he is too bulky, he couldn't even get passed Ivanovic yesterday so it's not something I've plucked out of thin air.
 
I don't understand why you keep bringing separate players into the argument. Evra and Vidic struggled but you could see the talent was there and they certainly didn't have the ego and entitled attitude that Memphis has where he feels he has 'made it' already. In fact I'd argue Evra and Vidic were 2 of the most grounded players we have had in the last 10 years.

I do think he is too bulky, he couldn't even get passed Ivanovic yesterday so it's not something I've plucked out of thin air.

I bring other players into this, because it's quite obvious that players tend to adjust to the PL in their own tempo. To write him off, calling him names or even wanting him sold (as posters have said in this thread and on this forum) already is, in my opinion, simply nuts. Who cares about the ego? Many of the best players in the world has gotten a ego, and it's not like you know the guy personally. He seems like he possess the kind of ego that'll keep him working harder than most people to reach his goals, rather than the ego of a Berahino.

If you say that he failed to get passed a player yesterday is 100% proof of him being "too bulky", then I dont really think I can bother with the discussion.
 
I think it's really ridiculous how fans are quick to write off players just for the sake of it. I for one have watched football long enough to know that any new player coming the PL has a low chance of hitting it off. Most fans have to admit that Martial's first couple of weeks was relatively "abnormal" and was bound to dry out at some point. It's called progressive transition.

Look at Ozil, KDB, even though they had the potential they struggled to adapt in their first year in England, this in normal. Very normal actually.

I work with young players and I can see how hard it is to adapt regardless of your ability or how much you earn. Most fans can't even adapt to watching a different league for a whole year how much more new players playing in one.

For me, Memphis, Darmian, to some extent Herrera, Rojo and Blind will always get at least 18months to 2 years grace before I expect them to start to shine.

To sell him is just silly talk. If we missed out on him and he went to PSG, we would be moaning on how Woodward messed it up. Let's give the imports the chance to develop and hopefully await their explosion rather than slating them blindly.

The same happened last year when fans were having a go at Herrera, barely 6 months into his first year in England and excuses were made for Fellaini who has almost 10 years of PL experience under his belt (let that sink in). It doesn't make sense at all. This is why Rooney, Fellaini et al will hardly get a 5 from me this season.

Yes, some of the new players are not playing well yet, but let's allow them time before we chop their heads off. If Memphis was at PSG, Herrera at Barca, BS at Dortmund, Darmian at Porto (relatively easier leagues and in teams without the nonsense we are going through) we would be drooling over them.
 
His confidence is absolutely gone

Not a fan of mocking and laughing at him, as I feel quite sorry for the chap

What we saw early on was a clear talent and very exciting too. But it's all gone for now

If we had a big enough squad he should be left out for a few weeks completely
go read some of his interviews, confidence isnt lacking. The league is just way tougher than he is used to
 
The moment when he ran the ball out of play while trying to get past his man near the byline reminded me of Obertan. I really believed Memphis would be the kind of wide player who can get us 10 goals a season at least - something which we have lacked since the days of Ronaldo - but he is increasingly looking poorer with each passing game.
 
I think it's really ridiculous how fans are quick to write off players just for the sake of it. I for one have watched football long enough to know that any new player coming the PL has a low chance of hitting it off. Most fans have to admit that Martial's first couple of weeks was relatively "abnormal" and was bound to dry out at some point. It's called progressive transition.

Look at Ozil, KDB, even though they had the potential they struggled to adapt in their first year in England, this in normal. Very normal actually.

I work with young players and I can see how hard it is to adapt regardless of your ability or how much you earn. Most fans can't even adapt to watching a different league for a whole year how much more new players playing in one.

For me, Memphis, Darmian, to some extent Herrera, Rojo and Blind will always get at least 18months to 2 years grace before I expect them to start to shine.

To sell him is just silly talk. If we missed out on him and he went to PSG, we would be moaning on how Woodward messed it up. Let's give the imports the chance to develop and hopefully await their explosion rather than slating them blindly.

The same happened last year when fans were having a go at Herrera, barely 6 months into his first year in England and excuses were made for Fellaini who has almost 10 years of PL experience under his belt (let that sink in). It doesn't make sense at all. This is why Rooney, Fellaini et al will hardly get a 5 from me this season.

Yes, some of the new players are not playing well yet, but let's allow them time before we chop their heads off. If Memphis was at PSG, Herrera at Barca, BS at Dortmund, Darmian at Porto (relatively easier leagues and in teams without the nonsense we are going through) we would be drooling over them.
Not one of them would start for those teams you mentioned.
Which is basically the biggest issue.

This squad is made up of players that wouldn't get into the first eleven of any serious team.

As for Memphis: he's got very little quality to his game. He can shoot, and that's about it. Unless he's running onto a moving ball or shooting, he's not contributing anything useful.
 
People were declaring Memphis better than Nani before the season started. Let that sink in.
Not really a controversial statement IMO. Memphis scored 22 goals at the age of 20 to 21 in the Eredivisie, and he scored 2 World Cup goals.
 
Memphis isn't even close to Nani when he first arrived here. If he goes on to be as good as Nani I'd be pretty happy with that.
 
I bring other players into this, because it's quite obvious that players tend to adjust to the PL in their own tempo. To write him off, calling him names or even wanting him sold (as posters have said in this thread and on this forum) already is, in my opinion, simply nuts. Who cares about the ego? Many of the best players in the world has gotten a ego, and it's not like you know the guy personally. He seems like he possess the kind of ego that'll keep him working harder than most people to reach his goals, rather than the ego of a Berahino.

If you say that he failed to get passed a player yesterday is 100% proof of him being "too bulky", then I dont really think I can bother with the discussion.

The people who do have an ego like a Ronaldo etc. have somewhat justified it with their performances so you can kinda turn the other cheek so to speak. What has Memphis achieved that gives him that attitude already exactly?

The bolded part, it seems like he has been the opposite in truth.

That yesterday was one example as Ivanovic has been skinned by practically everybody this season, can you tell me when was the last time Memphis beat a defender for pace? I certainly cannot remember.

But here, have an e-pint for being a t0p red.
 
Not really a controversial statement IMO. Memphis scored 22 goals at the age of 20 to 21 in the Eredivisie, and he scored 2 World Cup goals.

He's not even reached the Ashley Young level never mind Nani. He's closer to Bebe than he's to Nani ffs
 
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