Media Thread

[WPMUFC]

I guess the stories of CNN offering a human sacrifice to Trump was on the money.

 

[dumbo]

 

[VorZakone]

 

[VorZakone]

 

[dumbo]

Western mainstream media is entirely captured by Apartheid Israel and his propoganda arm. Right wing media willingly and Liberal media (sometimes) reluctantly, same outcome.

Media that comes out of Apartheid Israel will often express truths that are completely off the table for even the likes of The BBC and The Guardian.

 

[langster]

Western mainstream media is entirely captured by Apartheid Israel and his propoganda arm. Right wing media willingly and Liberal media (sometimes) reluctantly, same outcome.

Media that comes out of Apartheid Israel will often express truths that are completely off the table for even the likes of The BBC and The Guardian.

That's not strictly true. I do feel the tide is slowly turning. I watched World CNN the other day and there was a Jewish guest on, he was pro Netenyahu but he said that Netenyahu has broken the ceasefire as had been his intentions all along to hide the sackings he had made in his government and to distract from his charges and court cases and to prolong or even postpone them indefinitely.

I was absolutely shocked hearing and seeing that he said on Western Media. I just hoped it was the start and that other outlets would follow suit and stop blindly supporting Israel at every turn.

 

[dumbo]

Mohammed Mansour, a reporter for Palestine Today TV
Hossam Shabat, a correspondent for Qatar-based Al Jazeera Mubasher channel

Both dead at the hands of israel.

This is the death of Western journalism.

As the BBC continues to ignore the reports of israel systematically raping women and children. As the BBC continues to explain away the bombings of hospitals, the murder of women and children and the continuation of israel's war criminality.

Another 2 Palestinian journalists were just murdered by israel.

 

[dumbo]

 

[Pogue Mahone]

That's not strictly true. I do feel the tide is slowly turning. I watched World CNN the other day and there was a Jewish guest on, he was pro Netenyahu but he said that Netenyahu has broken the ceasefire as had been his intentions all along to hide the sackings he had made in his government and to distract from his charges and court cases and to prolong or even postpone them indefinitely.

I was absolutely shocked hearing and seeing that he said on Western Media. I just hoped it was the start and that other outlets would follow suit and stop blindly supporting Israel at every turn.

It’s blatantly untrue. It only takes a few seconds to find articles on the Guardian or BBC blaming Israel for the recent escalation.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ope-but-it-was-the-calm-before-a-brutal-storm

You’d have to be getting all your news from deep within a specific Twitter echo chamber to think they won’t report on Israeli aggression. It’s also a bit of a side show anyway. BBC/Guardian coverage makes feck all difference to the breakdown in the ceasefire. Which has been massively influenced by the orange turd in the White House. But maybe blaming anyone in the US who isn’t Biden causes too much cognitive dissonance, hence lashing out at these media outlets instead?

 

[dumbo]

You’d have to be getting all your news from deep within a specific Twitter echo chamber to think they won’t report on Israeli aggression. It’s also a bit of a side show anyway. BBC/Guardian coverage makes feck all difference to the breakdown in the ceasefire. Which has been massively influenced by the orange turd in the White House. But maybe blaming anyone in the US who isn’t Biden causes too much cognitive dissonance, hence lashing out at these media outlets instead?

Guy you were radicalised by fecking Sam Harris.

 

[dumbo]

Anyway here is what some poeple who don't listen to all of Sam Harris' podcasts have to say.

UK BBC journalists:

In a 2,300-word letter written to Al Jazeera by eight UK-based journalists employed by the corporation, the BBC is also said to be guilty of a “double standard in how civilians are seen”, given that it is “unflinching” in its reporting of alleged Russian war crimes in Ukraine.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...za-bbc-journalists-accuse-broadcaster-of-bias

Over 100 BBC staff accuse organisation of bias:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb...-favoring-israel-in-gaza-war-coverage-report/
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/...ving-israel-favourable-coverage-over-gaza-war

 

[dumbo]

Israel pressure on the guardian investigation:

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.or...editor-in-chief-caves-to-pro-israel-pressure/

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Guy you were radicalised by fecking Sam Harris.

I listen to as much Sam Harris as I do Joe Rogan. Which is not at all. In the early days of podcasting they were both fairly interesting but I haven’t listened to either of them in a very long time. If that means I’m radicalised then ok.

Anyway, I’m being a little unfair. There is an obvious bias to a lot of the Guardian’s reporting. I don’t read the BBC but I’m sure it’s similar. I would put that down to them wanting to be seen as somehow providing coverage that gives a voice to both sides. Which obviously makes you look bad when one side behaves as terribly as Israel.

But whatever, you’re obviously enjoying spending hours every day balls deep in Elon Musk owned media far too much to care about what I think about the mainstream media. So I’ll leave you to it.

 

[dumbo]

BBC and Guardian editors held private meetings with Israeli General​

27th Febuary

Israel’s former top military officer, General Aviv Kohavi held private meetings with the editors of major British news organisations one month after the Gaza bombing began, Declassified can reveal.

The meetings took place with Katherine Viner, editor-in-chief of the Guardian, Richard Burgess, director of news content at the BBC, and Roula Khalaf, editor of the Financial Times.

https://www.declassifieduk.org/bbc-guardian-editors-private-meetings-with-israeli-general-kohavi/

And please read the whole article if you want to take issue with the extract. I do it that way so you can get an idea of the story and if you are interested you are meant to click through to the journalism. It's not meant as a summary.

 

[Jippy]

I don't see any issue with journalists meeting senior Israel figures and likewise if they meet Hamas leaders. It would be stranger if they didn't when offered the chance to get an inside line into one side's thinking.

 

[dumbo]

Which is what was also communicated in the article you are referring to. So you're just repeating an already established principle of agreement.

Reacting to our investigation, professor Freedman told Declassified: “Obviously off the record briefings have a place in journalism.

As well as the BBC and Guardian responses stating a similar principle.

Quite clearly that isn't the issue. The article makes clear that the concern amongst journalists, including those who work for these outlets, and other media observers, is that outside pressure is being applied to the journalistic and editorial output and that that political pressure is being caved to. As well as stating the unusual nature of the meeting.

Concern from BBC journalist from the article:

A journalist who was working for the BBC at the time of the visit told Declassified: “I don’t recall any internal correspondence about the meeting, which the BBC would ordinarily send out if there was a high profile visit of this kind. I also find it very difficult to believe that the organisation would hold an equivalent meeting with the Hamas government”.

The journalist, who requested anonymity, added: “Not only is Kohavi’s visit unprecedented but it’s also outrageous that one of the most senior editors at the BBC should court company with a
foreign military figure in this way, especially one whose country stands accused of serious human rights violations.

“It further undermines the independence and impartiality that the BBC claims to uphold, and I think it has done irreparable damage to any trust audiences had in the corporation”.

Intention of Israel to influence from the article:

In planning documents for the November 2023 trip, IDF lieutenant colonel (reserve) Gad Yishayahu noted how “visits by high-ranking Israeli dignitaries to Western countries will help influence various target audiences and thereby enhance the trend of support for Israel”.

 

[VorZakone]

This Tucker guest also owns the LA Times.

 

[Jippy]

Which is what was also communicated in the article you are referring to. So you're just repeating an already established principle of agreement.

As well as the BBC and Guardian responses stating a similar principle.

Quite clearly that isn't the issue. The article makes clear that the concern amongst journalists, including those who work for these outlets, and other media observers, is that outside pressure is being applied to the journalistic and editorial output and that that political pressure is being caved to. As well as stating the unusual nature of the meeting.

Concern from BBC journalist from the article:

Intention of Israel to influence from the article:

The point still holds. Meeting people from Israel or Hamas for off the record briefings is fine and normal. If they influence journalists in a way that compromises accuracy then obviously that's a different thing and clearly an issue. Of course the Israeli general is going to try and spin his message, but it's for the journalist to see through that and use the access to try and get information on the military's plans and objectives.
For the anonymous journalist to call the meeting 'unprecedented' is frankly bizarre, as is the claim they wouldn't meet Hamas, which appears unsubstantiated- they've certainly interviewed senior Hamas figures.

All of the media organisations were upfront about the meetings when asked. I don't know BBC protocol on meetings but 'ordinarily' announcing them internally sounds a little odd, given there must be security issues around some people visiting, but I've no idea on their policy.

It sounds like the journalist has a massive axe to grind. The general may be an odious character, but you're not going to pass up to get a possible inside line into one of the biggest stories out there at the moment.

 

[Raoul]

OpenAI is building a social network​

https://www.theverge.com/openai/648130/openai-social-network-x-competitor

OpenAI is working on its own X-like social network, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
While the project is still in early stages, we’re told there’s an internal prototype focused on ChatGPT’s image generation that has a social feed. CEO Sam Altman has been privately asking outsiders for feedback about the project, our sources say. It’s unclear if OpenAI’s plan is to release the social network as a separate app or integrate it into ChatGPT, which became the most downloaded app globally last month. An OpenAI spokesperson didn’t respond in time for publication.

Launching a social network in or around ChatGPT would likely increase Altman’s already-bitter rivalry with Elon Musk. In February, after Musk made an unsolicited offer to purchase OpenAI for $97.4 billion, Altman responded: “no thank you but we will buy twitter for $9.74 billion if you want.”

Entering the social media market also puts OpenAI on more of a collision course with Meta, which we’re told is planning to add a social feed to its coming standalone app for its AI assistant. When reports of Meta building a rival to the ChatGPT app first surfaced a couple of months ago, Altman shot back on X again by saying, “ok fine maybe we’ll do a social app.”

A social app would also give OpenAI its own unique, real-time data that X and Meta already have to help train their AI models. Musk’s Grok surfaces content from X in its results (Musk recently went so far as to merge X and xAI into the same company), while Meta trains Llama on its vast trove of user data.

One idea behind the OpenAI social prototype, we’ve heard, is to have AI help people share better content. “The Grok integration with X has made everyone jealous,” says someone working at another big AI lab. “Especially how people create viral tweets by getting it to say something stupid.”
OpenAI has a lot going on, of course, and it’s unclear if its early-stage social media project will ever see the light of day. But its existence inside OpenAI shows how the company is thinking about expansion at a time when expectations for its future growth are sky high.
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Between Bluesky and OpenAI - Altman's arrival into social media will probably be bad news for his arch nemesis.

 

[VorZakone]

The longtime head of CBS' 60 Minutes resigned Tuesday, as the network's parent company contemplates a settlement with President Trump over his lawsuit focusing on an interview the show did with then-Vice President Kamala Harris last fall.

Owens, only the third leader of the show in its more than half-century history, did not explicitly cite Trump. But the president's open rancor toward 60 Minutes looms over all. Corporate parent Paramount and its controlling owner, Shari Redstone, are seeking the approval of federal regulators to sell it to the son of Oracle founder Larry Ellison. The billionaire software mogul is a friend of Trump who visited the president at the White House earlier this year.

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/22/nx-s1-5372733/60-minutes-bill-owens-cbs-trump-paramount