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Pogba
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What a terrible name for the pairing. I guess, it’s Rojones legacy...let’s call them Freddie Mac
Who’s pretending Pogba won’t walk back into the team ahead of Pereira? There is a role very much for him. But for team dynamics McTommy and Fred are looking a very good pairing, Pogba hasn’t really clicked with either of them and is better in a more free role.
Having Pogba back in the team will certainly improve our front 3 and midfield. I’m looking forward to it, if it happens...
McFred should be enough i guess. Btw RoJones is a brilliant name.
Agree on Rojones. Caf classics.
Watch how if one of them turns out to not be good enough, this thread will be used to discredit both of them just by association. Happened for years with Smalling being associated with Jones.
Nah, I don't think so. Specially when you consider Ole tried to play Pogba as a CDM. Fred needed a long run of games to find form but that only happened because Pogba got injured. All in all, here we are anyway, just play Pogba ahead of the duo and we'll be good
they were, and he actually had a fairly decent game.
I am happy too but this is the main problem, A good game against a team like Brighton after losing against Bournemouth and everyone think we are ok. Come against a decent team and people start complaining about how bad these players have been.
Alexis, Lingard, Mata, Matic, Rojo,Young, Jones, Bailey...once we replace these 8 with proper top class talent then we can think about playing proper football.
Until that point we just struggle to get into top4!
Pogba with McTominay and Fred behind him and James, Martial and Rashford ahead of him looks like a very exciting prospect. Let's see what happens if it ever does happen in a match.
I must admit i had no hopes for that man, but i would be thrilled if he can prove me wrong. Hes always been industrious and decent at winning the ball, but his own handling of it and his passing was disastrous. Yesterday though his passing was top notch and he could have had at least one assists had we been more clincal
If Ole is fixed on the flat 2 man midfield they are by far our best options now. Questions remain whether can Pogba play in #10 role because I don't recall him being particularly good in there. Pereira might be shit but his workrate and movement really gives us a lot of balance.
I'm pretty sure that Pogba's defensive stats per 90 will be far superior to AP's. AP offers nothing. Not sure why people talk about his work rate and movement a lot.
He probably played some of his best football there
His inability to keep the ball, to pass the ball and even to shoot is a massive problem.Yesterday, when he went on to do those ridiculous stepover before his goals, I was dumbfounded. There is no way Pogba isn't a significant upgrade in that position
Pretty much everyone wants this now. The only reason I can conceivably think Ole would't try it is he likes his 10 to press, but the difference in quality between Pogba's creativity and Perreira surely makes up for it.
His shot was ridiculous for the goal and he lost the man for the Brighton goal. AP has played nearly all of the PL matches and yet out of the 16 goals we've scored - he has just one goal and assist. That's seriously pathetic for a player in the number 10 position.
He cannot complain if he is soon a bench warmer again. Some opportunities need to be taken by players like him
Mcfredinay is not good enough. We should be patient with Scott and let him develop, Fred should be upgraded as soon as possible and Pogba thrown in to add quality in a midfield 3.
The other day it was MMM.
Today it's Mcfredinay.
What's next?
Pogfredinay?
Danssaka - James Wan - Bissames? (Dan James + AWB combo)
Maguindof - Lindeguire - Victarry?
Rashtial- Marford - MarMar?
Today it's Mcfredinay.
What's next?
Pogfredinay?
Danssaka - James Wan - Bissames? (Dan James + AWB combo)
Maguindof - Lindeguire - Victarry?
Rashtial- Marford - MarMar?
I don't doubt Pogba's defensive workrate. I'm talking about it in the attacking sense. Lingard and Pereira's strengths are their pressing and off-the-ball movements, something which happens to be Pogba's weakness.
IMO Pogba will be definitely be an upgrade from Pereira but I honestly do not know whether will we come back to the same issue. His best position has been done to death here.
Its well documented in Italy that the #10 is not his best position. I think Allegri and Blanc tried him in that role a few times and it didn't work. Even Mourinho tried it most notably towards the end of 2016 and many fans thought he is not a #10. Many of us wanted him in that specific LCM role of a midfield 3 which doesn't even exist in our current formation.
I think there are genuine positives now as well though. We've got a core of very young players coming through who've got more than a decades football each ahead of them in Rashford, Mctominay, James, Wan Bissaka, Williams, Greenwood and some of the other kids. Clearly it's frustrating being a mid-table side but imo we're starting to see glimpses of where we're headed.
It's very strange that he's taken so long to find his feet here. I'd totally written him off. Biggest turnaround from a player I can remember.
Fred runs more than Pogba and we are a bit more balanced
Last season, in that winning run under Ole, is the period I'm talking about that. He was scoring, assisting and creating danger. His "laziness" wasn't much of an issue either in that position in comparison to play as a pure CM
Wanted to see Pogba played ahead of Fred and McT for a long time.
But wait and see Ole play Pogba and McT with Pereira!!!
But wait and see Ole play Pogba and McT with Pereira!!!
Nah, Pogba walks into the team ahead of Perreira
I mean I'll need Fred to play like he did yesterday a lot more before I'm convinced.
I've seen him be dogshite just as much as I've seen him be good this season.
I've seen him be dogshite just as much as I've seen him be good this season.
McFrogBa you know
Speciesist.
Seems like it could be very good on paper. He really didn't seem to suit that deep role Solskjaer had him playing initially, in theory his skill set should lend itself well to the role, plus having an actual cohesive attack in front of him could be a huge plus. With that said I do think I need to see a few more games of Fred playing well to convince me it's not just a purple patch.
Do we not feel that radically changes the dynamic of the team ?
Its not even the same position as what Pereira/Lingard are playing for us now. Pogba played as the LCM while Pereira/Lingard plays in the hole behind Martial. Just look at the heatmaps.
Anyway, I'm not saying they are a better fit than Pogba because they are defensively better. I'm just saying its extremely debatable that Pogba is the answer in that position, considering the fact that 1) we have already tried him in that position and 2) he is not a natural #10. And if we are to keep the Fred-Mctominay combo, we need to find a way to fit him into the current setup.
Been saying this for months. Fred needs a mobile player next to him who covers ground and is capable of the one touch passing he likes to play. Hes a disaster next to Matic because he wears himself out running to cover him and can never judge Matic who likes to hold the ball longer. He might not be the long term answer but hes a lot better than most give him credit for.
I would prefer Pogba to play in a free CM role rather than a pure 10 and midfield 2, but I don't know if his style will work well with Fred.
I would prefer Pogba to play in a free CM role rather than a pure 10 and midfield 2, but I don't know if his style will work well with Fred.
Yes we'd be a lot better
They are developing into a very good partnership.
I agree with the people saying that when Pogba is fit he should be played in the #10 position.
I agree with the people saying that when Pogba is fit he should be played in the #10 position.
People getting carried away here. Fred has been utter shite barring a couple of decent performances recently.
He's a long way to go before he gets to a level of where he should be week in week out
He's a long way to go before he gets to a level of where he should be week in week out
Terrible name 
The fact Fred has been looking like an actual footballer recently should not be cause for wild celebration, but his performance yesterday was very encouraging and his improved understanding with McTominay is good to see too. I'm cautiously optimistic.
The fact Fred has been looking like an actual footballer recently should not be cause for wild celebration, but his performance yesterday was very encouraging and his improved understanding with McTominay is good to see too. I'm cautiously optimistic.
Fred wouldn't even get a job cleaning the boots of players at City or Liverpool (or Chelsea/Arsenal) but the fact he is becoming accepted at United tells you exactly how far we have fallen...
Pogtominayed?