Did you watch the first fight he had with Maidana? The guy really struggled. There isn't a single thing that Maidana does better than Pacquiao, except speak Spanish. It's far from a given that he beats Pacquiao, don't believe the hype.
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Did you watch the first fight he had with Maidana? The guy really struggled. There isn't a single thing that Maidana does better than Pacquiao, except speak Spanish. It's far from a given that he beats Pacquiao, don't believe the hype.
He also got run very close by Castillo FFS. His 0 makes people believe the hype, he knows that and is why he has been so careful to protect it. He knows it makes his bank balance a lot bigger. I have the fight 75-25 in favour of a Mayweather victory, however.
On a side note, Pacquiao named one of his daughters Queen Elizabeth, yes after the Queen! His dog is also called Pacman.
For anyone who thinks this is easy work for Mayweather, take a look at one of the most exciting boxers that's ever laced up gloves.
For entertainment purposes, he's definitely in my top five. That Hatton KO still hurts 
Yeah, but he just always does enough. It's like he knew half way through that first Maidana fight how many rounds he had to win to be sure of victory. And he just went out there and did it. He was very flat-footed in that one though, can't imagine he'll be the same vs Manny.
Mayweather wasn't just given a hard time against Castillo, he (unofficially) lost to him. If the fight had been judged correctly, Mayweather would be without his '0'. He is not unbeatable.
I actually think Pac will do a 'De la Hoya' on him and leave his brilliant career to be finished in ruins.
I actually think Pac will do a 'De la Hoya' on him and leave his brilliant career to be finished in ruins.
The Hatton KO was hilarious. I remember we were in Vegas like 2 days later, and when the fight was scheduled we were annoyed that we were gonna just miss it - I got over it almost as quick as the fight was overFor entertainment purposes, he's definitely in my top five. That Hatton KO still hurts
He lost on Lederman's scorecard, but won on many others, including Max Kellerman's. I really don't rate Lederman's scoring anyway, did a horrible job in Matthysse-Ruslan last night, and did a horrible job in Mayweather-Castillo. I had Floyd winning the first five rounds vs Castillo, and 115-111 overall.
Let's all watch it?
Some nice interviews with the Manny camp.
Kenny Bayless is going to be the ref, a laughable appointment. His performance in Maidana Mayweather II was nothing short of a disgrace. If Pacquiao wins this thing he is going to have to overcome every disadvantage imaginable.
Just watching "Mayweather/Pacquiao - At Last' on Sky.
I didn't know Roach had Parkinsons, just googled him after thinking he was holding his head and speaking a little funny in the presser.
Edit: they've gone into it a bit now, pretty impressive how involved he still is with his own health issues!
I didn't know Roach had Parkinsons, just googled him after thinking he was holding his head and speaking a little funny in the presser.
Edit: they've gone into it a bit now, pretty impressive how involved he still is with his own health issues!
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Yeah he has suffered with that for a good while, quite an inspiration to be trainer of the year so many times with that hanging over him.
Absolutely
He doesn't seemed to have got much worse in the past ten years thankfully, I mean with the outward physical symptoms. I think that his intense workload helps him actually.
I'd not noticed it before but then my exposure to boxing is very limited (I only watch big headline events) so I guess that's understandable.
One of the greatest ever, his speed was devastating. If he'd have fought Mayweather between '07-'11, I think he'd have won. Now, I just think Mayweather will edge it on points. Also, the fact that Mayweather has accepted this fight tells me a lot -- he's ducked Pacquiao (imo) for years, now he doesn't fear him.
Oscar going in on social media
Bob Arum saying the official contract still hasn't been signed:
http://www.si.com/boxing/2015/04/22/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-contract
http://www.si.com/boxing/2015/04/22/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-contract
Arum & Ellerbe are a real pair of tossers, but there's no way in the world the fight isn't going ahead.
Shooters is £20 for a seat. £5 for a standing place. I think most places are gonna charge unless you're canny enough to become a member beforehand. I'm lucky enough to be a member at several casinos and nightclubs so that's where I'll be headed.
In that Roach interview a few posts up he basically admits it was Pacquiao's fear of needles why the fight didn't happen earlier.
Don't really get the ticket shit, they are mostly going to the ultra rich and celebs anyway. Fans first, yeah right. Getting the biggest payday in history is first.
Be hysterical if it didn't happen though, especially if it was over something that isn't serious/
Be hysterical if it didn't happen though, especially if it was over something that isn't serious/
Yeah, I think I'm heading to the casino now. Just didn't want to get drunk and go there and lose a load of money. Ah well.
Never knew that would be open. There's a pub near me what might be showing it now depending on whether they get the go ahead to stay open. Its looking like the casino so far though.
Hard Rock usually stays open late for the Superbowl, might be worth seeing if they're showing it?
Dan Rafael at ESPN said that very few of the tickets will even see general sale. They are all going off the book to the wealthy and famous. It is a great shame. It reflects the inequality in Western society for you.
I love Pacman, his attitude to boxing is awesome and he fights fairly, but I think Mayweather will win this one 
It wouldn't have been relevant had Floyd not just invented a new obstacle to stop the fight. A three day cut off point was a fair compromise. Even after those first negotiations failed, Pacquiao agreed to full testing right up to the fight and the fight still didn't happen. There is no doubt who stopped this fight happening sooner to an objective observer.
I'm still annoyed this didn't happen five years ago. I'll watch it and be excited that it's happening, but the feeling is just nowhere near the same as it was five years ago with both in their prime.
Floyd to win via points in a pretty uneventful fight.
Correct, plus Pacquiao agreed to have the test immediately after the fight. It was just Mayweather using whatever excuse he could to avoid the fight.
I love Pacman, his attitude to boxing is awesome and he fights fairly, but I think Mayweather will win this one
Same. Pac seems like such an approachable guy. Mayweather would probably rip on me for being (comparatively) poor
Getting bloody excited, I must admit.
Mayweather's an operator more than a fighter.
I want Mayweather to win, but I have no idea why. Pacquiao is humble, exciting, a great role model, has a trainer who I love. Mayweather is cocky, gets involved in the politics behind boxing to maximize his chances of success, isn't as entertaining to watch, but I just naturally want him to win. It's weird.
I will be lumping on Mayweather on points.
I will be lumping on Mayweather on points.
Mayweather just declared that he's greater than Ali.
It'll be like the Chelsea v United game last week. All the entertainment and impetus to make it a good fight will come from one party and all the gamesmanship and spoiling of the fight will come from the other; the result will probably be the same too: Mayweather sneaking it on points. Mayweather is essentially the Mourinho of boxing.
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Jose 'Money' Mourinho. That's actually quite apt, given his management history.
Mayweather is criminally underrated reading some of the posts on this page. I understand if you don't like the guy, but the whole it was Floyd who prevented the fight from happening is a joke. Both sides were equally at fault and Pac saying he was scared of needles was utter BS.
I like it.
I think Mayweather gets a harder time of it because he's been seen to cherry pick his fights for several years since he has had the profile to. Whereas Pacquiao has been known to not only take on the best fights available, but give fighters rematches who have caused him problems in the past. If Mayweather were in Pacquiao's shoes he'd have never given Marquez another chance (let alone 2) after he won the second fight. Likewise with Barrera and Morales.
I think Mayweather is trying to put that record right now as he realises once he's retired it's better to be seen as someone who's beat the best and fought and re-fought fighters that give you problems, rather than just retire with an "0" with those questions lingering. He gave Maidana a rematch after a very close fight and is now fighting Pacquiao, albeit arguably 3-4 years too late.
I think the majority of the boxing world would see Mayweather as a better fighter in a few decades time if he lost to Pacquiao and came back to win a re-match, rather than never fighting him at all. The "0" isn't hugely important in this sense - no-one see's Calzaghe as one of the best ever, as good a fighter as he was.
In fairness to Mayweather though he is unbeaten and in them fights he's rarely been troubled. He's never officially been knocked down and rarely gets hit. He might cherry pick his opponents etc but his record is still very impressive and can't be dismissed.
Boxing has always been a game of talking yourself up. Mayweather has done that for years so it's not shocking really.
I think people decide based purely on public image. I agree with you, it seemed to work both ways but due to Mayweather's media personality people will 100% lay the blame on him. Realistically no one knew or knows about any negotiation between the 2 except themselves and their representatives. The way some people make out you'd think they were present in some of the meetings! I don't really get how people can be so adamant one way really.