That's actually pretty much the norm I don't know why people like to single PSG out. Ambitious clubs simply don't let their best players go unless they absolutely need to.
The norm is that the top players don't switch sides because they're not allowed by their clubs. That used to be only for the richest clubs but now also applies to the likes of Napoli and Tottenham.
The norm is that big players tend to be happy at their big club and don't want to leave.
Couthinho was from a big club?
Are you saying Liverpool is not?
They were a big club but not a top club at the time he left, still a team on the up.
They were the 3rd or 4th richest club in the PL and top 8 in the world, and reached the CL final 5 months after he left
That's not exactly what I meant though, they weren't viewed in the same vein as Barca when he left, their team wasn't seen as good. Currently their team has shown to be the best in Europe which is why I think they're a "top" club now, as opposed to when Coutinho left.They were the 3rd or 4th richest club in the PL and top 8 in the world, and reached the CL final 5 months after he left
Not a top club though
We were never seen in the same vein as Real Madrid for example but it doesn't mean we are not a top club.
I always take the top clubs to not only be big in terms of a commercial sense/financial sense but also be the best teams around. That's why I think "top" and "big" clubs are two different things, we're a big club but currently we're not a "top" one.
He already is a prime player, the fact that he's only 19 does not change that. One of the best in the world in his position.
I would like to point out that one good season doesnt make you a prime player, that comes from years of high standards.
Maguire isn't that bad IMO. He would improve us. I'd rather put our energy to more attainable players and get our business done earlier than the Ed panic buys come August.Thank you, at this point it makes zero sense for any player of his caliber and potential to come to United save for money or some bizarre attachment to us while growing up. PSG blow us out of the water when it comes to money, plus they're much better equipped to win big prizes compared to us who is years off. Barcelona is a better bet than both but a) They're not gonna pay as much as PSG b) He'll have competition for his place there.
He'll end up at PSG, all links to us have dried up. I remember reading in this very thread that he rejected our proposal straightaway, think it was Bouhafsi team who wrote that article. Let's abandon this thread and camp in the... Maguire thread
Yep. He'll be quality IMO for Leverkusen next year.
He should seek advice from Adrien Rabiot on the matter.
I simply disagree with that. Same goes for Salah last season, Kane when he first came through - all the "one season wonder" and "needs to do it over a longer period of time to be considered a top player" is just bullshit for me, when I see a top player it's a top player regardless of how long he's been doing it. Unless you think he'll somehow play worse next season of course (spoiler: he won't).
Again all of those players you just named had a upward trend in their playing career. Kane came through the rank at Tottenham and was and rightly so questioned in his first season, after the second season no one had any reason to doubt him, plus he was playing in the PL not the Eredivisie. Salah was never a 80m and 300k signing for Liverpool and not even Klopp could have imagined the way he took his position at Liverpool. VVD was close to that price but his wages aren´t remotely close to 300k and he had english tax written all over him, plus he already played in the PL for years so people knew his strength from playing in a strong league.
You are not going to hear anything positive about liverpool from me.
but to d they deliver snails and frog's legs? that may sound anti-french but both were on the menu in the two places I ate in paris recently and burgers/pizzas were not
How about De Ligt ? He seems like a proper baller.
