Matthijs de Ligt / signs for Juventus, lowering their average age to 56

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I know odds mean very little indeed but we are into 13/10 and Barca out to 10/11, so in decimal terms that is 1.91 for Barca and 2.30 for us

I just wanted to share some positive information on a very difficult night for us, don't shoot the messenger if this doesn't come to anything of course
 
It's on: https://www.fifatms.com/itms/worldwide-transfer-windows-calendar/

The Fifa TMS system date for Netherlands and England open on 11 June. For Spain 1st July, so if he signs for us it will have to be after 11 June, if nothing happens fora number of days after that, he is going Barca, they have around a month to work on his transfer if he is going there. But I think he is hinting about the transfer system dates and maybe also that we are doing earlier preseason than Barca? And he wants to join sooner to his new club.

You can sign player any time. It's just registration window. Madrid signed Militao 2-3 months back, he will be registered when the window opens.

If DeLigt decides he can sign for any club today.
 
I hope this is not it one of the transfer sagas that last the whole summer . If he doesn't accept our offer by end of next week we need to publicly move on. We can't waste a full summer waiting for one guy. There are other options and other positions that we need to focus on especially in midfield.
I think he's made his choice already and it's Barcelona. I reckon he is just toying with the media they way they have toyed with him over the last 2 months. I would love to be wrong and hope he will sign for us.

Our priority this sumer should be defence, if we start with young Jones and smalling as our main defenders I expect a difficult season ahead.
 
I think he's made his choice already and it's Barcelona. I reckon he is just toying with the media they way they have toyed with him over the last 2 months. I would love to be wrong and hope he will sign for us.

Our priority this sumer should be defence, if we start with young Jones and smalling as our main defenders I expect a difficult season ahead.

Our defensive problems run deeper than the starting centre backs, although de Ligt would definitely be an improvement on Smalling and Jones he'd do nothing about De Gea's lack of authority on crosses and general lack of command of the penalty area or the lack of protection from central midfield.
 
Yep, this tends to be forgotten. And although it was just one game, it also the case that so far he's only played in one of Europe's weaker leagues, so I tend to think that the potential transfer fees and wages being bandied for him are based on somewhat shaky foundations.

Any buying club will need to be careful they don't end up with an over-priced player that they won't later be able to shift.
We are getting used to being the last paragraph:lol:
 
Solid reasoning. Omg omg omg he was in a game that was LOST ladies and gentlemen. Should stay at Ajax really.
 
De Ligt could still be wanting the Barca move but sees his friend De Jong (a little older) getting around 300k and wants something similar.

Barca (and Nike allegedly) had to pay that to beat City and PSG but you can't have every young promising player on these wages and their wage bill is very high already.

What's funny is this sporting project nonsense. They conveniently forget that De Jong didn't snub other clubs to join Barca on lower wages.
 
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De Ligt could still be wanting the Barca move but sees his friend De Jong (a little older) getting around 300k and wants something similar.

Barca (and Nike allegedly) had to pay that to beat City and PSG but you can't have every young promising player on these wages and their wage bill is very high already.

What's funny is this sporting project nonsense. They conveniently forget that De Jong didn't snub other clubs to join Barca on lower wages.

And Nike?

What?
 
"I've decided to sign for the Champions League winners"...

:( Please, anything but that.

I genuinely don't get why anyone would want to sign for the team that's just won the CL over their competitors. wouldn't you want to come in and help your new team make the step from contending (semifinals/finals) to actually winning rather than just tagging onto a team that might well even have lost their hunger a little?
 
I genuinely don't get why anyone would want to sign for the team that's just won the CL over their competitors. wouldn't you want to come in and help your new team make the step from contending (semifinals/finals) to actually winning rather than just tagging onto a team that might well even have lost their hunger a little?
Yeah, it would be different if you were at the end of your career. With time on your side, you can really make a club your success.
 
Paying a part of his wages.

This is one of those urban myths.
Big business doesn't pay wages or fees in transfers.

I remember nike were going to be paying for ronaldo if he came back to us. It's garb
 
https://www.manutd.com/en/news/deta...ign=ManUtd&utm_medium=post&utm_source=twitter

Mentions 11 June Here also, last year the date was 8 June and we signed Dalot. I reckon we have another 10 days of rumours to go before we have anything locked down.

That's when the deal can be officially completed, as in the player is registered and eligible to play. We can announce and sign the contracts any time of the year. For example, we announced Depay deal on May 7th and completed officially later.

Not sure why manutd.com added this part as many clubs have already announced transfers during the season, like Militao to Madrid.

"Whatever the summer has in store, and it might be worth taking most of the speculation with a pinch of salt, any transfers from abroad can be completed from 11 June onwards. The window closes on 17:00 BST on Thursday 8 August, although loan moves to League One and League Two will still be permitted until 2 September"
 
So if Ogden knows this, do Barca not know that De Ligt only wants to play for them as well? So why all the posturing?

Clearly not as obvious as he's making it out to be.
Agreed. You literally cannot believe a word you read nowadays, yet we still get caught up in it all.
 
This is one of those urban myths.
Big business doesn't pay wages or fees in transfers.

I remember nike were going to be paying for ronaldo if he came back to us. It's garb
At most, they might advised he's brand would be more valuable if he went there and offered to give him a raise on their contract. But yeah, they ain't paying any part of his €16m a year contract
 
LvG thinks De Ligt should go to City. Cheers Louis.



To be fair, he's a Dutchman who wants to see De Ligt's talents fulfilled. United has been a pit of stagnation since Fergie left, and I as a Noggy wouldn't want, say, Ødegaard to come here, so I can totally see why LvG would say that. That's even neverminding the fact that the way he was fired was disrespectfully as feck.
 
To be fair, he's a Dutchman who wants to see De Ligt's talents fulfilled. United has been a pit of stagnation since Fergie left, and I as a Noggy wouldn't want, say, Ødegaard to come here, so I can totally see why LvG would say that. That's even neverminding the fact that the way he was fired was disrespectfully as feck.
I fully understand you....would you recommend a club, whose only interest is exclusively financial performance, to a friend who wants to fulfill his footballing potential ?
Despite being a United fan, I wouldn't do that to a friend.
 
To be fair, he's a Dutchman who wants to see De Ligt's talents fulfilled. United has been a pit of stagnation since Fergie left, and I as a Noggy wouldn't want, say, Ødegaard to come here, so I can totally see why LvG would say that. That's even neverminding the fact that the way he was fired was disrespectfully as feck.

Why in the hell should Ødegaard not come to us?
 
Why in the hell should Ødegaard not come to us?

Because it’s hard enough to get enough minutes and to fulfill your potential in the first place. Add to that that we have no idea whether we’ll have the same manager for all of next season, the pressures of playing for United who everyone wants to see go down in flames, and a player group devoid of true leadership, and I reckon Ødegaard wouldn’t even need to feck up for his stay here to be detrimental to his development.

We’re too shaky, and Norway never gets talents like this one.

If I have to endure a season of United wobbling, Ole getting fired, and Ødegaard being relegated to reserves, I might bloody top myself.
 
Because it’s hard enough to get enough minutes and to fulfill your potential in the first place. Add to that that we have no idea whether we’ll have the same manager for all of next season, the pressures of playing for United who everyone wants to see go down in flames, and a player group devoid of true leadership, and I reckon Ødegaard wouldn’t even need to feck up for his stay here to be detrimental to his development.

We’re too shaky, and Norway never gets talents like this one.

If I have to endure a season of United wobbling, Ole getting fired, and Ødegaard being relegated to reserves, I might bloody top myself.

The fanbase here would also rip him to shreds about everything, if he doesn't live up to expectations.
 
Because it’s hard enough to get enough minutes and to fulfill your potential in the first place. Add to that that we have no idea whether we’ll have the same manager for all of next season, the pressures of playing for United who everyone wants to see go down in flames, and a player group devoid of true leadership, and I reckon Ødegaard wouldn’t even need to feck up for his stay here to be detrimental to his development.

We’re too shaky, and Norway never gets talents like this one.

If I have to endure a season of United wobbling, Ole getting fired, and Ødegaard being relegated to reserves, I might bloody top myself.

Speculative.

We might have a great season or it may end up like you suggest/fear.

We are great with young talents and we got superb faculties. No talents should need to have doubts going to us imo.

We are Manchester United. Nothing will change that fact.
 
Bored of this now. If he signs well and good otherwise onto the next one.
 
To be fair, he's a Dutchman who wants to see De Ligt's talents fulfilled. United has been a pit of stagnation since Fergie left, and I as a Noggy wouldn't want, say, Ødegaard to come here, so I can totally see why LvG would say that. That's even neverminding the fact that the way he was fired was disrespectfully as feck.
LVG is massively sour against united (Woodward mainly) in the way he got fired. I don’t blame him but why he’s so personal against the club is crazy.
 
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