That's an utterly mental way of comparing the two players.
I don't know who is better, as I've seen Darmian only a couple of times, but the only way you can determine it is based on watching them play.
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That's an utterly mental way of comparing the two players.
I don't know who is better, as I've seen Darmian only a couple of times, but the only way you can determine it is based on watching them play.
Apparently he has captained Torino on occasion. I'm liking everything I hear about Darmian.
Comaprisons with Clyne are getting boring now.
This feels like a Vidic/Evra signing.
Come on.. Announce him.. So that we can start muppetry for other names.. 
Indeed. We'll see who got the better deal, Liverpool or us but it doesn't matter THAT much. No right-back is going to transform either team.
When the deal is official I think we should have a Clyne vs Darmian thread. It's going to be a big talking point for the next year.
Clyne is just atheletic and hard working. He's not sound defensively and not impressive going forward, he's in the Antonio Valencia style. I havent seen much of Darmian but if he isnt better than Clyne it'll be a shock
Seeing alot of articles claiming Gampierro Ventura (the Torino coach) has confirmed Darmian is coming to Manchester United.
http://www.football-italia.net/68913/ventura-darmian-man-utd
http://www.football-italia.net/68913/ventura-darmian-man-utd
That's not true, Clyne has a good tackling ability, pacey, fairly strong, average in the air but poor positionally, he has very average/ limited technical skills too, he's not a top 4 player yet, but may well improve. Currently speaking, Darmian is the better player, probably more in the aspects that Clyne is weaker in funnily enough, so very attacking, good in the air, good positionally, but leaves a bit to be desired in the technical department too, probably not quite as good a tackler as Clyne either IMO, but you could argue his position in his last team was more attacking than Clyne's
I agree. Let's compare him with the other right backs that we probably weren't even in for. Comparisons with Alves and Coleman guys?
He gets skinned more or less every game. He doesnt do anything above average going forward
It's not really.
I'd say the fact that one is a regular in the Italian team and was voted their best player, while the other has one cap for England is a very good indicator.
Obviously watching them play is the ultimate test, but it's dependent on a) watching plenty of matches over a good period of time so you're not swayed by a rare good / bad one or a furn of good / bad form and b) being a very good judge of players' ability (which 90% of people in here claim to be, but most of them are deluded).
Personally I have not done a) and I am not b), so I'm happy at this stage to be guided by the opinions of Antonio Conte and whoever votes for the Pallone Azzurro as they have and are.
I didn't think that was possible either until Brøndby IF (Denmark) signed Johan Larsson from IF Elfsborg Boras (Sweden) in the winter. In 18 apps he's got 4 goals and 5 assists (he isn't on penalty duty, corners and free kicks though). He just turned 25 in May and his total career statistics are 214 apps, 37 goals and 31 assists. If we get half that from Darmian we're laughing.
Fair point. But then I'd argue it's relatively the equivalent of me stating that Danny Welbeck must be better than Zlatan Ibrahimovic because:
a) England are a better team than Sweden.
b) Welbeck is the top scorer in England's Euro campaign and regularly one of England's best performers.
Playing for Italy and not England just isn't a great deal to go off, albeit I'm confident in the general consensus amongst people that know more about Darmian that I do that he's a very good player, and probably a better bet than Clyne.
Not a great comparison...
a) Ibra has 105 caps against Welbeck's 33, including having more over the last two years
b) Ibra is widely acknowledged as Sweden's best player. I don't know if they have an award, but if they do, I bet he wins it every time. Don't think Welbeck would win an England one.
c) Are Sweden really much worse than England?
Sweden do have an award for it, and Ibra had won it every year since 2005 bar 2006 which was won by Ljungberg.
This could be used to prove Henderson is better than Herrera.
Apart from Spain are a crapload better than England in midfield?
I think a really great idea will be to see how both Clyne and Darmian get on next year, and then make a judgement.
For what it's worth (nothing), I think Clyne is an very-good (possibly excellent) full-back, and I have no clue how good or bad Darmian is.
For what it's worth (nothing), I think Clyne is an very-good (possibly excellent) full-back, and I have no clue how good or bad Darmian is.
Not exactly. Italy are better han England while England isn't better than Spain. A better comparison would be that Cillessen is better than De Gea cause he starts for Holland who demolished Spain and did better than them in World Cup.
Anyway, I don't agree with this type of comparison. For a start - as average as Clyne is - he is better than Johnson who has been starting until recently (does he still starts).
Meh. From the stats, Ivanovic looks to be by far the worst of them, but anyone who has watched them play would say that only Alves might be (not neccesarily though) better than him.
I wish this guy well in his first season, but I must admit, it's not a signing that excites me as I know so little about him. Hopefully he springs up a surprise.
Have we got people tracking flights? Tweets from the airport??
He flew over yesterday didn't he?
They (Ivanovic and Alves) also have players that compliment them.
Agreed, but I can't claim to have seen Darmian yet. So, there is no reference point. You tube videos are selective. Last time I got excited because of a highlights reel was Anderson, and that turned out badly. My point only is, I am happier that we are getting Italy's no.1 RB (and best national team player) as compared to England's back-up choice who has one cap.
I don't know much about him either, but the simple fact that he's an actual right back that plays regularly is more than enough to make my excitement levels go through the roof. I'm fecking ecstatic.
Really? Guess I missed that.. Sat here pressing f5 looking for a tweet to be posted saying he has been spotted..
Really? Guess I missed that.. Sat here pressing f5 looking for a tweet to be posted saying he has been spotted..
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There is a fundamental flaw in that argument. The comparison has to be between two equal teams. Spain v/s England is not even a comparison in terms of quality. Sweden and England/ Italy and England are far closer.
What a terrible thread that's going to be. Everyone seems to be getting a little rawkish in their defensiveness here over darmian.
I'd love to know how!
Not that, other than United fans, the majority of people would rank Herrera as particulalry the better of the pair right now.
If he settles in well, he could be a good player. Italy usually produce quality. Never heard of him but it's a United type signing. No massive hype. No nonsense and greed on anyones part. Italians do quite well in England so hopefully he can speak some of the lingo
Indeed, England are ranked above Spain in the FIFA ranking.
Not really.
It's utterly pointless comparing Darmian and Clyne. I'm betting only a few folk on here have seen Darmian play on a consistent basis, add that to the fact that he's played in a completely different league; therefore, making a judgement or a comparison to Clyne is going to be very difficult.
There are some similarities, though. Both play for a club that was recently promoted from a lower division to the highest in their respective countries, and both have deservedly made a move up to better, bigger clubs in the same league. We'll be able to make a reasonable comparison in about 6 months time, maybe more, when both have settled into their new clubs. From what I've seen of Darmian, I don't expect him to struggle to embed himself into the team and the league. He's a very competent player.
There are some similarities, though. Both play for a club that was recently promoted from a lower division to the highest in their respective countries, and both have deservedly made a move up to better, bigger clubs in the same league. We'll be able to make a reasonable comparison in about 6 months time, maybe more, when both have settled into their new clubs. From what I've seen of Darmian, I don't expect him to struggle to embed himself into the team and the league. He's a very competent player.
Good Italian players do.
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