Painfully see-through agenda (ha ha, good one) . . . you mean he hasn´t been taken off for being shite in about 30% of his PL matches? You mean he really is good offensively and works well with Mata and Herrera or Young? You mean he hasn´t been directly at fault on like 5 or 6 goals this young year already? You mean he hasn´t been yellow carded already 5 times? You mean he hasn´t been constantly skinned and removed by decent wingers? You mean he did a good job on that dangerous Sterling . . . my god, it must be all that Valencia abuse, doctor. What was I thinking?
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Painfully see-through agenda (ha ha, good one) . . . you mean he hasn´t been taken off for being shite in about 30% of his PL matches? You mean he really is good offensively and works well with Mata and Herrera or Young? You mean he hasn´t been directly at fault on like 5 or 6 goals this young year already? You mean he hasn´t been yellow carded already 5 times? You mean he hasn´t been constantly skinned and removed by decent wingers? You mean he did a good job on that dangerous Sterling . . . my god, it must be all that Valencia abuse, doctor. What was I thinking?
No I don't mean any of that. Your reaction underlines my point quite well to be honest. If you could take a step back you'd be able to notice that you're not the only one criticising him. I did exactly that today and I agree - his attacking play's been crap. It was good in that one game he played at left back though.
Started really well and looked a top class signing. Was quite bizarrely taken off at half time vs Southampton, which followed the PSV mistake and his confidence dipped. He hasn't looked as assured since.
Unfortunately, he's not the first and won't be the last player who gets the LVG master class in man management.
Hopefully he will rebuild his confidence and come back stronger.
Unfortunately, he's not the first and won't be the last player who gets the LVG master class in man management.
Hopefully he will rebuild his confidence and come back stronger.
Valencia should start over him right now.
Darmian's poor play going forward has been a problem. Especially because he has more freedom than Rojo to go forward.
Darmian's poor play going forward has been a problem. Especially because he has more freedom than Rojo to go forward.
In his defense he's probably never faced pace like Zaha or Sanchez in his career. I could be wrong though.
"....., said no one ever.
I've seen people say it.
I say it as one of Valencia's harshest critics too. Darmian has been poor lately imo. A rest will benefit him and the team.
I like Tony but he won't be able to offer what Darmian does defensively. He may be apporpriate in certain one off situations when we are dealing with particularly pacy wingers, but in most cases, Darmian is comfortably better.
Valencia has a good understanding with Mata and Herrera. I'd still rather Darmian play though, despite his recent struggles.
Are you serious, he made Tadic look like Ronaldo
He is a great player but he has just hit some bad form recently, but he will improve.
He certainly has. Sanchez played for Udinese...
He's in a bad patch of form at the moment, his positioning at times isn't very good. Give him time it is only his first season adapting to a new country and a new league. First month of the season he was possibly our best player.
He was excellent when he first signed, and has been very good for Italy for a little while now, (seem to remember him tearing England anew one at the very least). I think it's just a patch of form, maybe confidence or carrying a little niggle? you dont suddenly become aweful forever.
Torres?
Please dont say that
He's a good full back, better defensively than going forward, but he lacks pace, and it's normal that when he comes up against quick, tricky wingers, he'll struggle a bit. Don't think it makes it any easier having Mata ahead him, though.
Although Valencia is injured, we have two good full backs who offer us something different.
Although Valencia is injured, we have two good full backs who offer us something different.
Your football posts are catching up to your posts on politics and parenting.The content, format, and aggression level of your posts are all equally horrible.
He showed enough early to make me think he's s good player in appalling form. But he does need help. Get Mata into the middle.
This is why I am glad we have both him and Valencia in the side. Both will have difficult times during the season, but we can rotate them throughout the season.
Darmian is struggling at present, but he'll adapt. What he needs now is a bit of a rest.
Darmian is struggling at present, but he'll adapt. What he needs now is a bit of a rest.
He went through a honeymoon at the start of the season with everyone still getting into their stride. He's in it now alright. I'm pretty sure he's never come up against such offensively aggressive wide men playing consistently at a high intensity. How good he is will determine how well he adapts.
I don't think it has anything to do with form at all. As some previous poster has said, rightly so people were hyping him up because he was not Valencia and for once we had a right back who could defend.
Fast forward to today, people have realized that a man utd right back also needs to attack and Darmian currently does not possess such a trait.
So I wouldn't put his latest performances down to form but rather he is probably trying to adapt to what is required of him at the club. When your mind is confused then you will be far from your best.
So he has joined Rooney in the confused club, not to worry he will adapt at some point.
Fast forward to today, people have realized that a man utd right back also needs to attack and Darmian currently does not possess such a trait.
So I wouldn't put his latest performances down to form but rather he is probably trying to adapt to what is required of him at the club. When your mind is confused then you will be far from your best.
So he has joined Rooney in the confused club
, not to worry he will adapt at some point.I don't think it has anything to do with form at all. As some previous poster has said, rightly so people were hyping him up because he was not Valencia and for once we had a right back who could defend.
Fast forward to today, people have realized that a man utd right back also needs to attack and Darmian currently does not possess such a trait.
So I wouldn't put his latest performances down to form but rather he is probably trying to adapt to what is required of him at the club. When your mind is confused then you will be far from your best.
So he has joined Rooney in the confused club
Likely true.
Go back another year and people were doing the same for Blind. He wasn't Cleverley and we'd all felt starved of a good midfielder, so people (in my opinion) got carried away by him doing simple things and showing a degree of competence. People were claiming he was better than Carrick and things like that.
And then what happens is people who criticize them in the midst of all of the initial praise are told they have agendas.
And then once the player's level drops, people start claiming that anyone criticizing them is being knee-jerk. When actually people were being knee-jerk in throwing praise at them in the first place.
Best to just see how things go with Darmian. It's possible that this current level is closer to his usual. Or it's possible that his initial level is closer to his usual. And then it's arguable whether, even at his best, his attacking game is good enough.
Your point, to be quite honest, was some lazy bollocks about a poorly worded "painfully see through agenda" in a way to discredit the criticism of Darmian instead of directly addressing what I said. Agendas aside or whatever you´re into, does not take away how really poor Darmian has become. Even you admit his attacking play is crap (some sort of agenda?), yet LVG has had to take him off early in 3 of his last 5 PL matches for being absolute shite, and it has nothing to do with crap attacking ability. It´s his defensive play that has been horrible, yet somehow there are those who still think he´s fantastic defensively. This has been going on for quite a while, not just a dip in form. In that run of his last 5 PL matches does not include the match against against Swansea where he gave up the winning goal, nor that catastrophe against PSV, nor Wolfsburg, where along with Valencia, he played the attacker onside for the goal. And LVG saved us from Sterling and Citeh by keeping him safely on the bench. This guy has seriously fallen off the charts.
Don´t bollock the messenger for stating the obvious. You don´t think other managers see this. Pardew moved Zaha (a United reject) one time in the second half with a predictably embarrassing outcome.
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Seems to be behind young and Valencia now
Hopefully Lvg is working hard with him to help him recover from this bad patch
I don't mind young and in particular Valencia at right back but my preference is someone who is a very strong defender rather than attacking attributes and Darmian surely offers the most in that dept
Hopefully Lvg is working hard with him to help him recover from this bad patch
I don't mind young and in particular Valencia at right back but my preference is someone who is a very strong defender rather than attacking attributes and Darmian surely offers the most in that dept
He's shown what he can do so I have no worries about him. He really needs to improve going forward though.
What happened to him?
Suspended.
Seems like Nothing Sensible has forgotten Evra's first few months...
Going to be counting on him quite a bit at this point with Shaw/Valencia out.
I feel he is quickly becoming another product of Van Gaal bad man management. He is was arguably our best player in the first few months of the season and then his form drops so unexpectedly like an earthquake. Kind of similiar to Di Maria during his term here. I could be overlooking things and maybe he just needs a rest, but his recent performances has been piss poor. I would not be surprised if Van Gaal told him to completely changed his game, which might have affected his mentality on the pitch.
Its his athletic level which has dropped massively from his first few games for us. He looks a liability whenever he plays against someone with decent pace now.
How does that happen in such a short period when he does not appeared injuried? His confidence and mental strength must have been hit by something. He also appear to be a player who is grounded, so I doubt he took his earlier performances for granted.
It baffles me too. Tbh what is strange is that before we signed him, I thought he was a tad slow and leggy and I didn't think he would be a great signing based on the limited games I'd seen of him. But he blew me away with his initial performances and he looked very althetic.
He now looks like the player I thought he'd be like but clearly he has it in him to be much better, how do we get it out of him though... is it a case of him not being able to handle a huge workload of high intensity football and he needs to adapt?
Nothing baffling about it at all. With a healthy Valencia, Darmian probably wouldn´t even make it on the substitutions bench.
Quality poster above.
He's played both games for Italy, hasn't he? Maybe van Gaal thought Young simply had more energy to offer and has been good recently.
It's true. If Tony V was fit he'd be first pick. It's obvious LvG isn't impressed with the no shows in attack from Darmian. It's why Young is playing there again.
still baffling how the guy can go from looking like our next right back for a number of years to being replaced by 2 wingers. so basically our defensive wingbacks are currently our left attacking winger and a jack-of-all trades in Young and Blind. hopefully he can turn it around though and it's a "simple" case of first season at United / New League syndrome
LvG has done this with plenty of players in his time here after they hit a patch of bad form (everyone bar Rooney). Darmian will be back in the lineup soon enough.
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