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Me too. Hence the post.
Please tell me you watched the Arsenal matches last year, and actually noticed.
What did Sanchez do in the game?Such as the game where Valencia put the ball on a plate for Welbeck to knock us out of the FA Cup?
The game they created as many chances as this year and couldn't finish leading to 3 undeserved points for us? I am far from someone that can remember individual performances that far Back Hut I'd be amazed if he kept Sanchez in his pocket while out entire defence was having their assets handed over to them.
By all means, go back and have a good look. See what proper defending against Sanchez is all about. And then rewatch the first half of last week´s debacle. Compare and contrast. It won´t look pretty for the Italian. Luckily LVG saved him and United from further embarrassment by taking the poor lost lad off.
I'm not going to so i'l just ask you this. Valencia was having a stellar game while our defence was repeatedly being torn apart?
Sooo, tell me I wasn´t absolutely spot on on my criticism of Darmian. I´m not making this up just to "belittle Valencia´s replacement."
Let´s continue to evaluate his play once again. It´s only fair to measure with the same microscope that is on Valencia.
At fault for goals . . . . yep, add two more to that tally after that embarrassing display at the Emirates. That´s about 6 now, and we´ve barely begun the year.
Another yellow card . . . . yep, to save himself from being skinned again he resorts to clumsy fouls ending in dangerous free kicks. How many yellow cards already? 4? 5? Same thing over and over. Careless fouls to make up for shite defending.
Zero chemistry with Mata . . . once again mata turned to shit as they have no understanding. Mata looked better when Tony came on, and seems to be one of our best players with Valencia behind him making runs and giving him width.
Replaced at halftime for being shite . . . the second time now in 8 PL matches. In other words, he´s been so bad in 1/4 of our PL matches he´s needed to be replaced by Valencia who has shored things up. On what footballing planet is a defender considered good when he´s yanked up for being shite 25% of the time? And if you look at our two CL matches, he was absolute crap against PSV, allowing goals and all, so he´s been shite in 50% of our CL matches as well.
Taking on a man . . . . I don´t think I´ve ever seen him take on a man. Ever! This is a Man United fullback we´re talking about. Absolutely indefensible.
Going forward, creating chances . . . . I think he´s the worst offensive Manchester United fullback I´ve ever seen going forward. We can´t judge his crossing cause it´s such a rare occurrence, and they usually suck when it happens. As we´ve seen with the criticism of Valencia, completely unacceptable for a United fullback.
Defending against elite wingers . . . raped by Sanchez, raped even by Tadic, probably the second best winger he faced. Pathetic.
I´ve also noticed that in the last two matches, not only were all the goals scored coming from Darmian´s side, but that both Wolsburgh and Arsenal were always attacking Darmian´s side. You would think with United playing two converted wingers as fullbacks, opposing sides would be attacking them. However, Wolfsburg was running through our left side like water through a sieve, and Arsenal attacked the right side when LVG moved the Italian over there with embarrassing results.
Totally agree with this. He isn´t even in the same league as a Luke Shaw.
But our defence wasn´t being torn apart last year against L' Arse, so what´s the point? Mainly cause we had some proper fullback defending on Sanchez which made a massive difference. I do know though, that in the F.A. cup loss, LVG had rued that his best player in that match had made the unfortunate back pass.
I'm not going to so i'l just ask you this. Valencia was having a stellar game while our defence was repeatedly being torn apart?
Terrible back pass aside, Valencia played well in that game. Something noted by Van Gaal in interviews after that game. Unfortunately his performance was a victim of the standard redcafe trope where a single bad error is all that 80% of people on here can remember from any given game.
Talking about the league game Pogue, not the FA cup match.
Weren't you guys slagging off Evra in his first season too? He came good in the end, as will Darmian.
Oops. My bad. Ironic that my feck up occurs in a post where I accuse other people of having bad memories
A lot of that is bollox, which I can't be bothered to unpick in detail but let's focus on the last bit. Isn't "even" in the same league as Shaw. That implies being in the same league as Shaw is an unimpressive achievement. Shaw's form this season has been exceptional. Being "in that league" would be quite an achievement.
Re Darmian all I can say is that he's put in a number of unequivocally impressive performances in a United shirt. Anyone who ignores those to slate him as a poor player/signing is either terminally biased, blind or unbearably negative about everything like the other person whose post you quoted.
I still haven't figured out what it is people think Darmian is actually good at.
When he has to defend, he doesn't do it very well. When he has to attack, he doesn't do it very well. When he has to play football, he doesn't do it very well. He isn't amazingly fast, or big, or strong. So what is it people think he's good at?
I've only seen him play ok so far, and that's against non threat teams like Sunderland, where you could play a kid there and they'd look ok more often than not.
I mean fair enough it's his first season, but that's an excuse for being a bit shite, not an excuse to pretend he hasn't been.
He isn't amazingly fast, or big, or strong. So what is it people think he's good at?
You can accuse me of having a bad memory about individual performances and be right every time.
I am genuinely asking how it's possible for Valencia to have such a good game when I vividly remember our defence being piss poor that night.
Feel free to show how a lot of that post was bollox, or even a tiny bit of it. I think I was proved rather correct by my previous criticism of the Italian. Glowingly correct in fact
Could you address this as well. I just don´t get it either. Help me out here. An unequivocally impressive performance by a United fullback with zero attacking skills does not compute. I thought the 1970s were thankfully dead.
K.This is what´s called Valencia-is-shite-no-matter-what-happens memory. It´s actually quite a common occurrence here.
Terrible back pass aside, Valencia played well in that game. Something noted by Van Gaal in interviews afterwards. Unfortunately he was a victim of the standard redcafe trope where a single bad error is enough to ensure that it will be all that 80% of people on here can remember about the performance.
you don't think that it's easier to look better when you have cristiano ronaldo in front of you then juan mata? With sir alex ferguson as manager compared to Van gaal? Darmian has done well overall. Nothing spectacular, but his overall game is very good and just had an off day against sanchez and arsenal. It happens.I seriously think John o´Shea had as much or better attacking skills as Darmian. That´s how dire he is. And Wes Brown was far better. Go back and watch the 07/08 season.
How about that Martial though? He isn't even in the same league as Messi. Our transfers are like bloody amateur hour here.A lot of that is bollox, which I can't be bothered to unpick in detail but let's focus on the last bit. Isn't "even" in the same league as Shaw. That implies being in the same league as Shaw is an unimpressive achievement. Shaw's form this season has been exceptional. Being "in that league" would be quite an achievement.
Defending against elite wingers . . . raped by Sanchez, raped even by Tadic, probably the second best winger he faced. Pathetic.
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He's had some very good games and a couple of very bad games. Clearly the talent is there. People forget he's still adapting to a new league, country etc. Remember how long Evra took to adapt to English football. I say cut him some slack for now.
It's all very well making a clever interception and scoring a great goal but what's he actually good at? The caf needs to know.
Geography really isn't one of your strengths is it? We will put that in the pile with 'talking sense' and 'football knowledge'.Hope we got a couple of more matches with Azerbaijan! . . . Azer wuz whoo??? . . . Azer been Badin???
Geography really isn't one of your strengths is it? We will put that in the pile with 'talking sense' and 'football knowledge'.
P.S. looking forward to reading some more of your Valencia fan fiction.