That’s not correct, what we’ve heard is Murtough has more autonomy over football matters. That’s cleverly worded because everyone thinks it means he’s now in charge of transfers and contracts etc. But those are all commercial and financial matters as well as football matters so a lot of the same problems may well still exist.
Matt Judge resigns from role as Manchester United’s Head of Corporate Development
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That’s not correct, what we’ve heard is Murtough has more autonomy over football matters. That’s cleverly worded because everyone thinks it means he’s now in charge of transfers and contracts etc. But those are all commercial and financial matters as well as football matters so a lot of the same problems may well still exist.
I'm confused. Arnold oversaw the commercial department under Woodward, and Arnold knows how to make revenue for the club and has been a top executive for a while now. Which is a good reason to allow him to succeed Woodward.
Arnold wouldn't give Murtough autonomy over business related items such as the commercial side (i.e. sponsorship, tickets, media revenue).
Judge isn't being replaced because his duties are being filtered towards Murtough and the attorneys who support the legal side of contracts and transfers.
He also wouldn’t give Murtough autonomy over things like transfers/contracts that impact revenue, commercial value, monetising social media etc etc. Retaining players, renewing contracts is about book keeping as well so there’s no way that’s all up to Murtough now either.
People get massively carried away with what Murtough’s will actually be doing and power he’ll have, there’s no way he has parameters like total spend, he will be much more restricted. That’s one of reasons we probably recruited internally as
other candidates would have expected more power or less interference.
So you're saying that Murtough won't be given a general budget to work with, which would be impacted by ins and outs?
All player and staff expenses from academy on up have a budget that is forecasted by CL qualification, shared TV rev, etc. This is all filterd to the person(s) who have oversight of the players expenses, which is Murtough. Yeah he has others supporting him, but he's the main man by all accounts.
How a club monetized digital, social, and owned media rights isn't Murtough's job, you're right. Nor should it be. That's business ops, not player ops. Revenue from owned revenue streams may dictate and influence player expense budget, which then Murtough has to go against, the budget set for player ops expenses like wages.
Chris Wheeler (@ChrisWheelerDM) reporting that Matt Judge is still involved in active negotiations... why?
No wonder its taking ages to get deals done
It says in the opening post that he's serving his notice period
But it’s the Daily Mail……?
He wants to go out on a convoluted transfer high and is currently negotiating for Frankie Dettori.
Because he's already established rapport with certain targets so we're just using him where needed.
Keano Keano
Wtf
Lot of changes happening which is good to see.
Impressive how many roles we have that get filled by people with prior links to the club
Good to know our recruitment is shite at every level. What a fecking joke. Pass up on actually seasoned pros to end up with inexperienced nobodies.
He’ll be doing all the legal parts, fine contractual details etc. Not negotiating transfers in the way people might think. He’ll be getting the right protections in for the club, the right language etc. Advising on enforceability and clause details etc etc. There are several people involved in the transfer process. His previous work as an intermediary and player advocate is only a strength as far as I see it.
That’s my assessment anyway.
That’s my assessment anyway.
He’s a lawyer. You need lawyers for the legal paperwork etc. Chill all the way out mate. You’re getting in a tizzy and you don’t even know about what.
Love his work on Somewhere Only We Know and Everything's Changing. Wish him the best of luck in this new role
edit: that was Tom FROM Keane. my mistake. the sentiment still stands
edit: that was Tom FROM Keane. my mistake. the sentiment still stands
And like feck you do. Sorry are we suddenly meant to trust this club’s decision making?
Like feck do you have a single solitary clue what Tom Keane’s experience is
Like feck do you have a single solitary clue what Tom Keane’s experience is
This, in a nutshell.
He’s going to be negotiating a lot of our deals too. From the post above about him, it doesn’t fill me with confidence.
The United way.
Immediately don't like the fact there's a family link to an academy player which will set off the 'jobs for the boys' comments again. Brandsmith's isn't amazingly prestigious either - they are tier 4 I think - but assuming he will have a lot of sports specific knowledge.
He didn’t say he did. But you did. You said it was an example of shite recruitment, when you know nothing about what he will actually be doing or what his experience or skill is. You just jumped to a wild, emotional, knee jerk reaction.
I don’t, I’m not the one claiming it’s either good or bad. You claimed he’s an inexperienced nobody like a toddler throwing a tantrum that we’ve not hired Jeff Winger to be our legal representative.
A generic article with no details. He’s a lawyer. Pretty obvious he will be working on the legal aspects of signing a player. Judge was an accountant. The vast majority of his duties have shifted to Murtough.
Tom Keane was actually rated as better than his brother but he wanted to become a Lawyer more than a footballer.
And making sure Phil gets his new 5 year deal.
As underwhelming as this is, it SURELY cannot be any worse than Matt Judge?
Current transfer window speaks for itself.
Sounds decent. Good move from the club.
So we’re now blaming somebody who hasn’t started work yet for… well nothing actually going wrong at all (so far at least)
Cool. Glad I understand.
is Tom Keane the Cooper Manning of northwest English football?
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Shambles
Have I specifically blamed anyone? RedCafe seems to be full of people defending Arnold, Murtough, the Glazers. Simple fact is the board has changed but the amateurish approach to improving the squad remains. No one sold. No one bought. One at time approach. Holding out on one player and will pay the exact price the selling club wants whilst wasting 3 months. The only expected outgoing which isn’t a finished contract is Henderson. We can’t even get money for an English player in his prime years when City just sold their 3rd keeper for £15m.
Well no probably not. It could be good, it could be bad. Let's face nobody knows anything about this guy or his role especially not the one-liner moaners.
So all they had to do was hire a law firm to sort out contracts and they go for probably G.Nev recommendation in the Keane twins brother.