Mats Moller Deahli
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The white Eikrem?
Mats Møller Dæhli. He's the son of the Norwegian Martin Samuel. Or something like that.
so we have 675 starlets who will make it now! God forbid we look into a player with pubic hair.
Was Solskjaer the last world class player to come from Norway?
United scout : "You are a good player. Here is a contract but before you sign an important question. Do you have pubic hair son?"
Potential recruit : "No sir."
United scout : "Well I'm gonna have to check."
*Necessary checks for which I shall not go into graphic detail*
United scout : "I see some growth. Liar." and the contract is duly ripped.
Wonderful, so now we've added another under-16 to our ranks who at the very earliest will establish himself in 2014. Just what we needed, we look a bit short of player's that fit that profile 
Wonderful, so now we've added another under-16 to our ranks who at the very earliest will establish himself in 2014. Just what we needed, we look a bit short of player's that fit that profile
So you'd rather we stop signing talented kids?
Wonderful, so now we've added another under-16 to our ranks who at the very earliest will establish himself in 2014. Just what we needed, we look a bit short of player's that fit that profile
Thank God you are not our manager
I'd rather we bring through our own rather than stealing them from foreign academies on the back of employment loopholes. Tell me this is morally correct and that we actually need another kid who's not even left school, and I'll agree, until then I'll continue to be disenchanted with this sort of deal.
Wonderful, so now we've added another under-16 to our ranks who at the very earliest will establish himself in 2014. Just what we needed, we look a bit short of player's that fit that profile
Whats wrong in adding talented youngsters to our team, btw most of the norwegian journalist on twitter is calling him the biggest talent in Norway.
Do you seriously think that signing a 16yr. Old will affect out transfer strategy?
Read above post of mine.
Do you know the details of this transfer?
This boy was on a trial with us first, do you think that could happen without the permission of the parent club.
Wonderful, so now we've added another under-16 to our ranks who at the very earliest will establish himself in 2014. Just what we needed, we look a bit short of player's that fit that profile
Remarkable.
There was me thinking it would be impossible to twist this bit of news into justification for a whinge....
I honestly couldn't care less if his club approved it or not, the fact is that nearly every youngster in our ranks that even remotely has a chance of making an impact in the first team is foreign.
Only Welbeck and Cleverley(like this kid especially) look the business from the local lad's at United at this moment, and even they are on loan whilst we pack our academy with foreign youths.
The kid may be a talent, none of us truly know, but I'd rather we brought through our own talent rather than constantly looking abroad, and in most cases, poaching off other club's.
So it's wrong to want Manchester United to bring through English/local player's rather than always importing them from abroad? I don't think so.
England Über Alles
I am sure you will be whinging when we aren't winning anything with our local talents.
It is impossible to build a world class team with talents from one area. The class of 92 was an anomaly. Not a rule and even then Beckham was from London not Manchester.
We have to keep looking for the best talents in the world if we want to remain competitive. All the great academies around the world scout all over not just in their local area.
Wrong again.
Morrison, Keane and Thorpe- three of our most promising youngsters are all English. From the foreign lads in the academy, only Pogba has stood out.This season, John Cofie(English) has been our best player in academy.
Edit: Forgot to add Ryan Tunnicliffe, again English.
Stop making stupid assumptions.
So would everyone, but I guess with the rules that prevent you - or at least make it harder - from signing local players from other parts of England, you'll struggle to produce true quality if you settle for lads from the Manchester area. Would it be better if we had mostly local players in the academy, with next to none making any sort of impact on the first team?
At first I thought this was some weird thread about Mathias Sammer, Adreas Moller and Martin Dahlin.
Bjorn Daehli?
Erik Huseklepp.
I'm talking about the youngsters who've been club trained that we can judge as part of the squad now who have the potential to become regulars in the future...Rafael, Macheda, Fabio are the ones that spring to mind and all are foreign and came here in similar deals to the likes of Pogba and this kid we've just signed.
Stupid assumptions? The last English player we brought through and who made it to the first-team regularly is Brown, 12 fecking years ago. Keane, Thorpe, and Ravel may be promising but if we clog up our acedemy with equally talented foreigners, the chances of them not making it increase.
But that's not what you're whining about, is it? At least it wasn't in your first post in this thread, which seemed to be mainly belly-aching about him being several years away from being old enough for first-team football.
Wonderful, so now we've added another under-16 to our ranks who at the very earliest will establish himself in 2014. Just what we needed, we look a bit short of player's that fit that profile
I guess some people will look for any excuse at all to complain about transfers of any kind. Which is a bit pathetic really.
It's at the root of my gripe, I only expanded further when yous lot took offence.
Manchester United have always prided ourselves on giving youth a chance, developing young talent into fulfilled potential and such, it's true, the difference now being that most of our most promising prospects aren't English or even British for that matter. Bringing through young talent is part of our identity, poaching/buying in young foreign talent is not.
@OTP...You should get to know a poster and his thoughts on things before tarring us all with the same brush. I'm a United supporter, not a United being successful supporter, although it's a great feeling when we are.
You do realise the vast majority of kids playing for our academy are British or Irish?
Things have changed. In the past, of course, there was no Bosman rulling and you couldn't have more than very few foreign players in the senior squad. You also had smaller squads, of course. You could also bring players from all over England.
Rules have changed, the times have changed. We always said the Giggs-Scholes-Beckham-Butt-Nevilles bunch was a one off. Nowadays you couldn't even bring Beckham from London. We can stick to our past principals, and develop medicore players mostly, but would that really be right? You want to develop the best you can. Just have to go with the times, I'm afraid.
Bjørn Dæhlie. Probably not related.
Awesome name
Aye, but the ones most likely to come through right now are foreign, and the number of imported youths at the club is swellling by the season.
Fornasier, Pogba, Eikrem, King, Macheda, Petrucci, Fabio, Rafael and others I may have forgot to mentioned are on ours books, and although all talented, they are also blocking the path to a future at the club of our own player's. If they weren't deemed better than our own junior talent, why would we bring them here and why do some of the older ones of that lot look 100% more likely to make it here than local player's?
Nothing against those player's or their ability, just that I'd like to see less of these types of deals/poaching and more of our own produced talent coming through. I know I'm blowing bubbles against a tidal wave in wishing for that though.
Right, let's get this out of the way.
Mats: A as in 'car', not 'cat'.
Møller: Ø as in 'fur'.
Dæhli, pronounced 'dæli': Æ as in 'mad', not 'shire', or anything else.
Bold to mark intonation: maTTS, MØLLer, DÆÆÆÆli
Mats: A as in 'car', not 'cat'.
Møller: Ø as in 'fur'.
Dæhli, pronounced 'dæli': Æ as in 'mad', not 'shire', or anything else.
Bold to mark intonation: maTTS, MØLLer, DÆÆÆÆli
Maybe mats won't block an English lads progression? What if his quality raises the game of someone else and this English lad takes his chance. It's up to the English lads to improve just as much as the kids from abroad. United have had plenty of foreign players, the fact we're talking about kids here don't have to be a big deal. Every club does it and United will always have English players at some level - they just have to show they are good enough.
You've named 9 players there. Out of dozens of kids on our books.
We're obviously targetting the very best British and Irish talent we can get our hands on but it stands to reason we should also cast our net further abroad.
If it transpired we decided to focus only on signing local kids, while our rivals brought through the very best youngsters in the whole of Europe, along with the best local kids available would you be ok with that? Only I'm fairly sure you'd be one of the first to kick up a fuss.
Would you have been upset if we'd signed Fabregas?
There are plenty of young english/british/irish players in the youth sides that have a chance of making it, the foreign lads don't change that. If they're good enough to play for us, they will.
Not at all because I share the view of Platini on this matter, IMO only when a player is 18 should he be allowed to switch club's professionally.
It's all very good stockpiling a load of young foreign player's but if they make the grade(far from a certainty may I add), that to me is not Manchester United producing another top player, that's Manchester United benefiting from the time, effort, coaching, and finance invested in the player by the club(s) we poached him/them from. Signing a player already a fully fledged pro and for a substancial fee(like Hernandez, Smalling, Ronaldo, Nani, and co) is fine, poaching them for a packet of crisps is not, we wouldn't like it if it happened to us.
This kid may not be poached, being on trial suggests not but he's still another foreign player plucked from another club on the continent before he's on a professional contract, that to me is not right and blocks our own youngsters from progressing into the first team.
Add Conor Devlin, Joe Dugdeon, Corry Evans, Oliver Norwood and Robbie Brady to the list. fecking foreigners.
Wonderful, so now we've added another under-16 to our ranks who at the very earliest will establish himself in 2014. Just what we needed, we look a bit short of player's that fit that profile
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