Mathys Tel | on his way to SPURS. He’s going to Spurs lads. SPURS

Yeah right, the idea that we'd have said no to a straight loan is daft. We're desperate.
Seriously, we've literally been looking at loans for others like Nkunku this window :lol:

We're desperate and I doubt we would've loaned forwards out if we didn't think we'd replace them with fresh bodies for the rest of the season.

Now to see what to do because relying on just 4 attackers in the squad for the rest of the season will be suicidal
 
The lad is 19 years old, has only 16 career goals. And hasn't scored since May 2024. 9 months ago.

And he is a left sided forward.

We need a proven 30 goal a season number 9.

Not a 60m prospect, or another one for the future.

We're already stocked up on those.

Where does one find a 30 goal a season number 9 when we are skint, up against it with PSR, have no one to sell and have about 12 hours to go in the window?
 
Nah. They wanted an obligation to buy we didn’t.
Bayern look to be happy with a straight transfer, loan with obligation or a straight loan seemingly.

My guess is our option to buy was either too low or Bayern didn't want one in case he lights it up, making them not get the most for return on investment.
 
Yeah right, the idea that we'd have said no to a straight loan is daft. We're desperate.
Exactly. They tried bending us over and we said no. The only reason he’s going spurs now is so he doesn’t have to stay unhappy at Bayern, they’ve obviously had a fall out with him.
 
Shocking on our end. We have 0 threat up front, well done ineos.
Whats shocking is going for another youngster in a position where we need an established goalscorer, they dont have to be a goal a game but they need to be capable of 20- 25 a season.
 
Bayern look to be happy with a straight transfer, loan with obligation or a straight loan seemingly.

My guess is our option to buy was either too low or Bayern didn't want one in case he lights it up, making them not get the most for return on investment.
That's all there is to it, yeah
 
So rejected Spurs last week. Watched us yesterday and decided Spurs were the better option.
It is actually quite funny. Tel basically said that he won't go to Spurs permanently but that it is okay for him to play there for 4 months to get minutes.
 
The lad is 19 years old, has only 16 career goals. And hasn't scored since May 2024. 9 months ago.

And he is a left sided forward.

We need a proven 30 goal a season number 9.

Not a 60m prospect, or another one for the future.

We're already stocked up on those.
Ye good luck finding one of them in January and with our budget. Who on earth is letting there best goalscorer leave in the middle of a season?
 
And he wanted United it seemed.
Sure sounded like it to me. And United squandered the opportunity because they wouldn't agree to a loan without an option.
I am seriously confused as why people don't understand Bayern's approach.
Same here. Looks very easy to understand why both of Spurs' offers were accepted while United's was refused by Bayern.

Some people seem to be really struggling with concept of a loan with an option being by far the worst kind of offer, and hence being rejected, from the club sending out the player.
 
Surely it's more embarrassing for Spurs than us?

They are loaning a player who didn't want to join them permanently

I don't see why that's embarrassing. He's 19. Will get some game time and then in the summer he's still a Bayern player, which may be his long term preference.

The PL is very competitive, which suits some players but not others. No harm in that.

Certainly wouldn't turn my nose up at a short loan for Messi, even if he didn't want to join permanently
 
Bayern look to be happy with a straight transfer, loan with obligation or a straight loan seemingly.

My guess is our option to buy was either too low or Bayern didn't want one in case he lights it up, making them not get the most for return on investment.
Fair enough from their perspective.
 
Exactly. They tried bending us over and we said no. The only reason he’s going spurs now is so he doesn’t have to stay unhappy at Bayern, they’ve obviously had a fall out with him.
All of this didn't happen.
 
I don't get the confusion. It makes total sense from Bayern point of view.
What's wrong with an option?

Also, I wonder whether we did ask for a straight loan initially too. I find it unlikely that we wouldn't want a loan for 6 months.
 
So rejected Spurs last week. Watched us yesterday and decided Spurs were the better option.
We'll that's not accurate either. Bayarn rejected united. If our loan offers where accepted by Bayarn, he would be doing a medical for us.

He's decided on spurs because at the moment it's the only offer on the table
 
This baffles me.

So Bayern rejected our loan offer, as we wanted to insert an option. Bayern wanted an obligation, said no.
The next day, he's off to Spurs, who he previously rejected, for a straight loan with nowt attached, even though they want rid.

:lol:
 
I don't see why that's embarrassing. He's 19. Will get some game time and then in the summer he's still a Bayern player, which may be his long term preference.

The PL is very competitive, which suits some players but not others. No harm in that.

Certainly wouldn't turn my nose up at a short loan for Messi, even if he didn't want to join permanently

He's saying you're good for a shag but doesn't want to introduce you to his mates
 
We kind of need to wait for Gyokeres in the summer so I don't think a mandatory buy would be shrewd with still big earners in our squad.
 
What's wrong with an option?

Also, I wonder whether we did ask for a straight loan initially too. I find it unlikely that we wouldn't want a loan for 6 months.
For a seller: everything. An option is only good for the one holding it. It caps the upside and offers no protection.
 
This baffles me.

So Bayern rejected our loan offer, as we wanted to insert an option. Bayern wanted an obligation, said no.
The next day, he's off to Spurs, who he previously rejected, for a straight loan with nowt attached, even though they want rid.

:lol:
I think Tel wants to play football but maybe not long term with Spurs. In this way, they keep the 60m option kind of open, but can keep him or sell him to someone else.

Spurs are the only ones who offered real money. If Bayern can make that loan palatable to Tel then it would seem their preferred way to go.

We only wanted it with an option from our side, but probably not an option at 60m, so not really in the same ballpark.
 
Weird how this one turned out, not too fussed about him but as a straight loan we should have taken a chance.
 
For a seller: everything. An option is only good for the one holding it. It caps the upside and offers no protection.
But I don't think United were not putting a straight loan on offer.

Reads to me like Bayern wanted purchase obligation or nothing. Then it looked like hel stay but pressure from the player pushed them to accept a straight loan offer and Spurs win.
 


Eberl was talking up him staying too yesterday after the United talks broke down...truly bizzare after a straight loan seemed the unlikeliest option Bayern were willing to accept the entire time
 
I think Tel wants to play football but maybe not long term with Spurs. In this way, they keep the 60m option kind of open, but can keep him or sell him to someone else.

Spurs are the only ones who offered real money. If Bayern can make that loan palatable to Tel then it would seem their preferred way to go.

We only wanted it with an option from our side, but probably not an option at 60m, so not really in the same ballpark.

We're that desperate I'd be amazed we weren't wanting to take a punt on him on loan.

I don't think he's the answer or anything, just the scenario is weird AF.
 
But I don't think United were not putting a straight loan on offer.

Reads to me like Bayern wanted purchase obligation or nothing. Then it looked like hel stay but pressure from the player pushed them to accept a straight loan offer and Spurs win.
If we offered a plain loan, he'd be on his way to Manchester now
 
He’ll be scoring against us on his league debut then. Very strange we couldn’t get him on a straight loan but Spurs could, I really hope we are not in such a mess next January but not going to hold my breath.
 
If I weren't a coward, I'd wager everything I own on him scoring against us when we meet in 2 weeks.