Well he wont have his answer...
Mathieu Debuchy
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Well he wont have his answer...
Strange thing to say given he's performed so well against the big teams so many times.
Your answer is simply that the only notion of us having interest in him came from the media. Therefor there is no proof and it was likely made up. Scout at a game does not equal interest in one of the 22 players. It equals to scouting. We have loads of scouts. The media only recognizes 1 or 2 in sight.
What do you mean isn't really the best now? He's a better right back than Sagna for my money and he'll have his regular place in that France side soon after the Euros if not before, IMO, and Sagna'd be first choice right back for us so it'd be an improvement.
Debuchy started the last game against Germany, set up both goals and played well in general but I don't think that'll be enough and Sagna's still probably first choice for the time being.
I meant in Europe. He has been exposed a few times now by strong European opposition.
Sorry to derail the thread, but on current form, I'd honestly say Evra is the one in need of a kick up the backside (and arguably, a rest, among other things)!
We have Jones, Smalling (though neither natural RB's) who can effortlessly fit into that role. So I'd disagree and say LB is probably our weakest area, currently.
Yes it does. Our interest was only reported by the media. Made up. The guy is obviously still at Crystal Palace.
Blanc will probably favor his international experience which is a shame as he's just better than Sagna (Sagna is a good RB btw despite his crossing problems)
I havent really seen him, but in recent times he's linked with multiple clubs recently so he must be playing very well. First I heard of him was on a reliable Valencia news site so I'm sure he's on their radar. If Sir Alex was there to watch him, perhaps Mancini was too. He was seen watching Lille shortly after Alex.
In fairness though, it wasn't just some random scout, it was Fergie himself. Yes, we have scouts all over the world, watching all kinds of players in all kinds of positions from all kinds of teams and countries, but Fergie doesn't go and scout them all himself. He usually watches after he's received good reports from his other scouts. That's the whole point in scouting. Scouts scout, report back, if we take an interest then we look at them closer. Fergie going to watch could constitute us looking at someone closer. Doesn't mean we'll sign anyone, doesn't indicate who is being looked at, but Fergie being in France a day before we play a game would suggest he was taking a closer look at someone.
SAF being at the game definitely means interest but SATA was referring to Nathanial Clyne, the Crystal Palace right back. Only interest in him has come from the media and twitter so I'm obviously skeptical that anything will happen with that lad. It's like with psychics. Guess enough and you'll be right sometimes.
Aye true enough. A Crystal Palace fan on a Palace forum says he knows someone who knows Willifred Zaha and Zaha says he thinks Clyne is United bound so it's a goer for me.
Anyway, never heard of this Debuchy geezer, is he any good?
Yea, the twitter guy that's intent recently on him joining heard it from a guy that knows someone around Clyne. It sounds very much like the whisper game to me but Clyne would fit the bill. Contract out in the summer so value and that.
I know Debuchy by name and I know him from FM. For the record, as Lille, I didn't purchase a new right back. I've only seen him recently in the Germany - France game where he was very good but I can't give an opinion on him.
so clyne is ours? is it like de gea when everyone knew he was ours?
In truth I was being tongue in cheek when I said I believed it because I read it from a fella who knows a fella who plays football with Clyne, but the move itself wouldn't surprise me. Young player, British, moving from a smaller club to United, reasonable fee. Sounds like the kind of move we'd make.
Well, if Debuchy is good in FM I'm sold. Sign them both I say.
was there any good left backs at that game by any chance?
While CM should be given first priority we do need a fullback to be honest. Out of 8 defenders 3 are injury prone 2 of which are fullbacks.
Doesn't debuchy play in the midfield as well? Would make more sense if he woul provide cover for a number of positions.
On Football Manager maybe. In real life he's a right back.
I've read he began his career in midfield, where he played as a deep-lying playmaker.
I've read his wiki too! Not sure calling him a deep-lying playmaker's right although I can't be sure, I can't imagine him playing that role given his playing style. Seems much more likely that he was playing Balmont's role as an energetic right-sided centre mid, I've a brief memory of him playing that role v us when Giggs scored the quick free kick with Bodmer as the holding mid.
If he's better than Sagna then I hope we get him. I don't know what should be more of a priority though, RB or LB.
Yeah, I deliberately worded that as exactly from his wiki, I knew someone would notice. If you google his name and midfielder there are quite a few mentions of him as being a midfielder. I've no idea though, I can't ever recall seeing him play to be honest.
Really? Even though we have Smalling, Rafael, Fabio, Jones and Valencia who have all played there?
How about DM? We have Carrick, and then erm........................
No-one!Dm is the weakest point in our team by a mile, and has been for a good while. Only Carrick can do an effective job. We simply have to strengthen there before anywhere else imo.
He actually used to be a midfielder. Able to play in the middle and wide.
He's always been a RB, although he was often shifted around because Lille had two other solid right-backs in Chalmé and Lichtsteiner when he first broke through in the first team.
Don't see why. We've got Raf, Fab, Smalling and Jones; and Valencia can do a good job there at a pinch.
As somebody said, in midfield we've got Carrick, and a 37, soon to be 38, year old Paul Scholes, and a broken-down Brazilian, and a player suffering from a chronic, debilitating disease, and the unproven Cleverley, and a 19 year old with one foot in and one foot out of the club.
Edit: I overlooked the soon to be 39 year old Ryan Giggs.
And at right back we have an unproven Jones, Smalling whose a centre back, Fabio whose a left back, a right winger and a injury prone youngster.
We need a left back, not a right back.
You have just given 5 options for that position, however you rate them there we still have choices who have done a decent job this season.
Why is that position weaker than DM where we have only Carrick, and nobody else whatsoever who can even fill in for him for 1 game with any effectiveness?
I can't see past that position as the weakest im afraid. Yes none of the options we have at RB are WC, but we at least have a few who can do an adequate job. Who do we have to come in for Carrick should he get injured?
Not one single player who we could rely on to do what Carrick does, or even just a Parker type role in front of the back four , and that is without the passing ability of Carrick. That worries me far more than any concerns we have at RB.
I would agree there is at least as much of a case, if not moreso, to be made for a LB as a RB. Imo none of which comes even close to our need for a DM or something along those lines.
If Debuchy can, as some suggest, play a DM type role then he might be worth a look, but other than that personally i am happy enough with Rafael, and Fabio, Jones or Smalling filling in for him when needed.
Both are more than good enough to act as cover at right back & even start too depending on the type of opposition we're up against. We could do with a left back more.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2173010/Mathieu-Debuchy-set-Newcastle-United.html
Bloody hell. Another quality signing for the barcodes. Have Newcastle nicked one of Wenger's French scouts or something?
Bloody hell. Another quality signing for the barcodes. Have Newcastle nicked one of Wenger's French scouts or something?
If he settles well he'll quickly show himself to be the best right back in the league. Hard as nails but intelligent too.
Not much competition for that accolade, mind you.
At £7m it can't go wrong. He's a versatile player too and Newcastle need them because their squad is relatively short at this point. One more defender and perhaps an attacking midfielder and they could well repeat the kind of season they had last term.
7mil?
Indeed. Sagna hasn't looked his best for a while and none of Richards, Walker, Rafael or Ivanovic are up there with the best in Europe (yet?).
The Barcodes are doing bloody alright raiding Ligue 1 like this - and at 7M, it's a bit of a steal for a player who performed well at the Euros.
I'm sure if we showed interest the price would have automatically been 15-20M.
I'm sure if we showed interest the price would have automatically been 15-20M.