You sure about that?
Matheus Cunha £62.5m release clause
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You sure about that?
I used Solanke as an example because he moved from a team that finished 12th with 1.4 goals per game to a team who are 16th but score 1.84 goals per game. Spurs are a terrible team on the whole, but as an attacking side they're significantly better than Bournemouth were last season.
I would have agreed with you towards the beginning one the season but in the second half of the season Bruno has suddenly turned on his press resistance and dribbling. He used to want to received the ball and immediately flick it on, turn the man for a 1-2. However now he’s taking it on the half turn and progressing the ball himself.
I do agree I would rather a spine of two absolute work horses with Ugarte and someone else. But Bruno could easily begin his later stage evolution to more of a dictating midfielder coupled with an incredible work rate.
I would bet my life that PSG and Barcelona are not remotely interested in signing him. Leaving aside the many flaws that mean we don't want him, PSG have a style of play that he simply does not fit and Barcelona are still broke and in no need of another left sided attacker. If Villa don't take up the option to sign him, or more likely if he turns them down, I expect he will be back here for the summer and then out on a subsidised loan again at the end of the window.
The team can’t score! so I’d like every new arrival this summer to be someone who at least adds a few goals.
No one player can do it alone, but adding Cunha should add 10-15 goals, which is a step in the right direction.
No one player can do it alone, but adding Cunha should add 10-15 goals, which is a step in the right direction.
He averaged a goal every 85 minutes as a substitute vs 160 minutes as a starter. Sorry but this is all a bit daft now. I feel like you're just disagreeing because you don't want to be seen to be wrong.
Barcelona have major financial issues again this summer. La Liga won't let them register anymore players this summer. They are going to have to sell just to balance the finances to appease La Liga.
Also why would an outfit as slick as Enrique's PSG be interested in rashford. They have Kvaratskhelia playing left wing and he's a different league to rashford as a player. Dembele is the no9 who is on course for making the balon dor top three this year.
I don't think the market for rashford exists that his Entourage probably believe does.
Oh wow, are those legit stats?
If so it certainly put into perspective all the Youtube clips showing forwards walking or jogging lightly during an individual passage of play.
So far I've read:
- he doesn't score enough goals (despite scoring more non penalty goals per 90 than Salah).
- he's a tool (despite nobody here knowing him, anything about his life or in fact, anything about him at all).
- various claims about how he plays not suiting us, despite none of these thing being anything like the way he actually plays (and also the fact he literally plays in the same formation that Amorim plays).
- 62.5m being too much for him despite him signing for Wolves for 45m and doing exceptional since he signed there.
Are people not sick to the back teeth of being so negative? Not least inventing things to be negative about. It's brutal reading.
- he doesn't score enough goals (despite scoring more non penalty goals per 90 than Salah).
- he's a tool (despite nobody here knowing him, anything about his life or in fact, anything about him at all).
- various claims about how he plays not suiting us, despite none of these thing being anything like the way he actually plays (and also the fact he literally plays in the same formation that Amorim plays).
- 62.5m being too much for him despite him signing for Wolves for 45m and doing exceptional since he signed there.
Are people not sick to the back teeth of being so negative? Not least inventing things to be negative about. It's brutal reading.
People still fretting about that fecking meme stat 
He has at least decent numbers for all of tackles, interceptions, blocks, clearances, ball recoveries. Elite shot creation from defensive actions. In the last month alone he's scored at least a couple purely from his own defensive work:
But nah, he might walk 3% more than some other players, so he's literally Mbappe defensively.
He has at least decent numbers for all of tackles, interceptions, blocks, clearances, ball recoveries. Elite shot creation from defensive actions. In the last month alone he's scored at least a couple purely from his own defensive work:
But nah, he might walk 3% more than some other players, so he's literally Mbappe defensively.
Another Onana scenario? What does that mean and what's it based on?
You do realise wolves signed him for 45mil and he's been a tremendous success for them?
So on what planet would they sell him for the same amount they bought him for?
I must be honest, I cant back up my opinion. It's just my obversation watching him play.
I didn't think he was a goalkeeper.
Yeah,some people would rather he'd running stats like hojlund. Knowing when to run and running aimlessly,he's impressive and would improve us.
He has a ball under his shirt in that photo, which gives the impression of excess weight. He's however quite lean in other pictures.
45 million when Wolves paid that for him? He’s been fantastic for them. Do you really expect them to sell him on with no profit?
That will happen if we don't win Europa anyway. Fully expect us to still get this guy whether we win it or not. Just means we will have to look for shrewd deals without winning that's all.
Nothing gets past you
Also, number two on that list has literally been one of the best players in the league, if not the world, for the past five years. Shows how significant it is.People still fretting about that fecking meme stat
He has at least decent numbers for all of tackles, interceptions, blocks, clearances, ball recoveries. Elite shot creation from defensive actions. In the last month alone he's scored at least a couple purely from his own defensive work:
But nah, he might walk 3% more than some other players, so he's literally Mbappe defensively.
It was reported when he signed for Chelsea that he chose them as he didn’t want to be played as a wingback. It might be a load of rubbish, but I wouldn’t blame him as I wouldn’t want to play as a wingback back either if I had his talent.
We really need a player who can hit them from afar. I like that some of his goals are from outside the box.
Bar Bruno, and Lisandro, when rarely set up to shoot, we don't have a player anymore who can cause such harm to teams that are sitting in deep. If we want to be a force again, we will have a lot of teams that will play in a bank of 5 at the back. Casemiro, 2 seasons ago was chipping in with some long-range strikes, but he no longer has that in him, same with Ericksen.
A player who looked very good in another team, looked like he will elevate the team higher in playing style, comes in at almost peak age and for big money then you know what happened with Onana.
We need a 'Dan James' player rather than Cunha player now in my own opinion.
A Mane player in cost and abilities rather than a VvD in cost.
We will blow up our money on a player who is mostly needed when the project is near completion rather than when starting a project.
That's on Wolves. Not on us. If Wolves were scammed or not it's for them to decide.
United should be wary from their own stand. We've seen Sancho, Joao Felix,Di Maria come to EPL and completely stink the place.
We should be extremely cautious.
No from seeing what a Wolves fan had to say about him which matches what I've seen. He's not a bad person but he's a me person and doesn't always work for the team. It took a lot for Pereira to bring him around. Also, he's very susceptible to criticism and in the powder keg that's Man Utd it's just a ticking time bomb.
He'd be better served for his career by moving to a big club with less scrutiny i.e no Man Utd, Barcelona, Real Madrid or Bayern.
We are being cautious, by looking at a player who's been in the league for a couple of seasons already
Yep.
So the question then is is he a KDB-like player who can consistently outperform xG when it comes to long range efforts? And if so, why was he a net underperformer up until this season?
The most likely answer is that he isn't a KDB, and he is instead just a player having a particularly hot season with strikes from distance. In which case if we're buying him, we need to be happy with what he'll produce if he reverts to finishing to par.
I mean, he's clearly a good player and would improve us. I have no idea what kind of budget we're working with but 60-odd million sounds like too much to spend when we desperately need at least 3 more first team additions.
If we can afford it and we're convinced he's not a numpty? Why not. But you can sign me up to team Skeptical on this one.
If we can afford it and we're convinced he's not a numpty? Why not. But you can sign me up to team Skeptical on this one.
Why are you using examples of players who've come from other leagues and struggled in the EPL as reasons for being cautious regarding Cunha, who is already playing in the EPL and doing rather well? Where's the logic?
Huh? Sancho, Felix and Di Maria came from other leagues and had never played in the premier league before, seems odd to compare them to Cunha, who has performed very well in the premier league for the past 2 years.
Also, I think it is safe to say Wolves certainly won’t feel ‘scammed’ by a transfer for a player that has worked out very well for them and they will make a profit on.
We have been burned by bad experiences
I understand, he's played in EPL already, but playing EPL and playing for us now is 2 different things.
We are so bad we can swallow him alive. For a considerable fee yes, we can get him
He's never worth 62.5m, would be a crazy signing. He's massively over performing his xG this year and should have 7 goals.
If you paid 20-30m it might be worth the risk.
If you paid 20-30m it might be worth the risk.
Pretty obvious no? Hes going to be awful between the sticks, drop a bunch of clangers that cost us games and not be anything like the player we saw in the CL final.
Who says he should be on 7 goals? Maybe we should have told him to miss a few more shots in order to not rock the boat.
Why would Wolves sell him at a loss, when he's proved to be a massive success for the £40-45m they spent on him?
Yeah I’m assuming the noise over Delap is because Gyokeres and Osimhen both said no. I could be wrong though of course.
State of this post. 'Should have 7 goals', the reason he doesn't is because he's a good footballer capable of scoring difficult chances, hence our interest in him
Adding two more points - questionable character: on previous pages there is a Wolves home and away ST holder for 30 years, and he has only positive comments about Cunhas temperament, work rate, team work etc.
Splashing a big chunk of tight budget on one player when there is so much other summer work with the squad: Wolves have done a number of deals in the past where the buying club would pay very little upfront then instalments over a long period. That would be another benefit to Uniteds struggles with cash flow/PSR.