The chap at Ajax Ten Haag wasn't rated higly at all last season by many Ajax fans. Most fans I've spoken to consider Peter Bosz to be the best Coach from Holland currently. @Kostov
Massimiliano Allegri targets Manchester United job
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So tell me, what do you expect from him with this panel of players without improvement. We need a midfielder and a forward in January, and that's just to start. No manager coming in can expect to do any better with this panel and the injuries we have had.
We will improve when Martial and Shaw, AWB, comes back in, but Gawd, we need reinforcements to midfield and attack.
Please no. He would be Mourinho 2.0...
Feck me a good friend of mine is a Hardcore Juve Fan, he says Allegri is even worse then Mourinho with his safety first approach. He would definetly not be the right fit for us.
Our next coach need to be someone young with modern ideas and an offensive style of play.
Feck me a good friend of mine is a Hardcore Juve Fan, he says Allegri is even worse then Mourinho with his safety first approach. He would definetly not be the right fit for us.
Our next coach need to be someone young with modern ideas and an offensive style of play.
Don't want him.
This is pointless. You clearly think he's managing the team and getting the best out of what he has whereas I don't.
No, United didn't score a shitload of goals with Mou.
Review the 17-18 season.
The 5th attack in the league?
Several 4-0 that season.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo /Vader
This really would be a Halloween nightmare
This really would be a Halloween nightmare
Woodward is currently browsing this thread just like he possibly did during Ole’s post-Jose run but this time around he is thinking:
“Hmm, maybe we shall not”.
“Hmm, maybe we shall not”.
You talked to the wrong people. I think most Ajax supporters love him. He's a bit strange, talks funny and that's why he gets a lot of stick. Tactically he is really really good. And he doesn't give a crap what people are saying or writing about him or his choices. He trains hard and is micromanaging a lot. Players have to get used to his methods, but they all understand when results are getting better and better. Everyone who played for him says he's the best manager they had.
But that's not a shitload of goals under Mourinho, it's a normal amount that led to the 5th and 8th attacks in the league.
It was actually on this forum that many Dutch fans didn't believe he was good enough to manage Man Utd after Mourinho got sacked. Maybe @Ajaxsuarez can shed some light on the matter.
Yeah, there are obviously a few variables to consider and it is a bit more complex - the situation we find ourselves in. But it does seem like OGS is being given a lot more leeway, which wasn’t necessarily afforded to any of his predecessors.
I’d be happy if we finish outside the top 4 (4-6), but if we see tangible progress on the field. But even that is not something I’m seeing tbh.
5th GF and 3rd GD. Hardly the "Mou made us play 1-0 catenaccio" myth.
Times change. And i'm sure he's good enough. The question is if Man Utd is a good club for him.
Out of curiosity is it just because of his inexperience right now or have you seen something in his Rangers side you don't like?
You just know it would never happen don't you? We hardly ever do the reasonable thing and if Ole is sacked I bet we go straight to Allegri or eve worse someone like Zidane.
That is very uninspiring to be fair, Bosz looked out of his depth at Dortmund from what I can remember.
Like a rich mans Moyes.
Poor man’s Simeone.
Inexperience and also because I don't think it would end well, but that being said if he did get a good amount of successful experience under his belt I'd probably be able to get behind it.
Allgeri at the game last night?
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/10/...allegri-at-tottenham-hotspurs-stadium-to-wat/
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/10/...allegri-at-tottenham-hotspurs-stadium-to-wat/
You're welcome to him.
.I was one of those 20 percent of people who wasn't for sacking Mourhino because I consider him the greatest defensive manager of all time and probably a good shout for a top 5 manager of all time. Wheter the CAF agrees with me is not the point. The point is that Allegri would be a step down (comparing him to Jose) and the brand of football would not be what we all consider Manchester United.
Nowhere near, was sacked three times, had a poor decade by top of all time standards, not even top 10.
A Scot, a dutch, a portugese, a norwegian and possibly an italian now. Are we on a quest to have a Manager from every country in Europe?
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Like I said. If you agree or not is not the point. He is better than Allegri and they both value the same brand of football.
Better than Solskjaer by a country mile but skeptical about what his vision for the team would be long term. Seen a few Serie A fans mention a while back that Allegri excels with a team that already has a foundation and is poor at building one. Unsure how true this is, also much of the criticism he recieves about style of play I'm not certain of the times I have watched Juventus they generally knocked the ball around the park well, good intricate play from the midfield to the final third and this was when Dybala was in decent form. I think personally that Tuchel / Poch suit our club's circumstances more.
Didn't he fail spectacularly with Dortmund?
Not sure if he is still better than Allegri but he is without doubt better manager than Allegri when he was at his peak. Its not even close. Allegri is poor (and less cnutish) version of Jose.
Is Allegri that much of a defensive manager? I've seen Juventus play mostly in the CL and they always played decent stuff. There passing was good and they didn't resort to parking the bus and hoofing it up field. Also Juventus don't exactly bore their way to the title every season, they score good amount of goals and there is a lot of emphasis on defence in Italy and they always seem to break open Serie A teams that mostly would park the bus against Juve.
It's that or Steve Bruce
I'm similar to you mate, not to sure about his style of play and they always look attractive to me but seen loads of things from Juve fans who said they wanted him gone, love a target man and getting the ball lumped forward, they think Sarri is a huge upgrade to attacking football, which seems a bit mental.
Not seen enough of them to pass to much judgement but going on what a lot of Juve fans have said on Twitter etc. they were happy to get rid, find it a bit strange but they know more than I do haha
They should know more for sure but they are so used to winning the league, then their expectations are going to be far higher, we all know CL is extremely difficult to win despite having a stellar squad and a guaranteed league title(PSG and City).
My point is that their expectations are far higher and right now us being beggars we can't really be choosers. I'd be extremely happy with a manager who can make us pass well, execute some tactics, make us play some competent football.
Allegri is a top men-manager who fundamentally lost his job because of the “coward” way he missed 5 times out of 5 attempts with a peak Juve a CL medal. He lost two finals while being 1-1 at 60th minute both times and he was knocked out three times while being ahead in the actual score (1-0 vs Ajax both away and at home last year; 2-0 away at Bayern and being caught in injury time and losing in ET after a rocky 2-2 at home) or momentum (3-0 away at Madrid at 75th minute, not going for the fourth after losing 3-0 at home and being punished by that infamous Oluver’s injury time penalty). After five seasons enough is enough, you can see how he lost his temper vs a pundit because of stress and burn out.
As for his maturity and his caliber as a manager of men and situations, adding here that you can appreciate the difference with Poch, who is imploding after a single, extremely lucky run in the CL and a defeat in the final game. That said, Poch is a foundational coach and you need him more at this stage, same as Spurs now needing Allegri to advance further toward the elite status.
Haha you and me both mate, always thought they were a decent watch but I don't watch them week in week out, time will tell but being at the Spurs game last night it could be Poch to Madrid, Allegri to Spurs, wouldn't surprise me.
I want Ole sacked but I’d rather work it out with him than higher another defensive manager with the shite squad we have. If we had a quality squad then I would consider allegri.
Serie A, Lukau is scoring goals there. Hell, Alexis is even scoring goals in that league.