We actually don't and more often than not when we put a brief like this involving Stones , it usually gets done soon atleast that's my impression .
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The midfield is a major concern. Eriksen and Casemiro both had a pretty mixed second half of the season and often looked off the pace, whilst McTominay, Fred and Donny are nowhere near good enough and Sabitzer is very unlikely to stay. Expecting Bruno to single-handedly provide legs to the midfield for another season would be a mistake. One injury and you're left with one of the most static midfields in the league. For me, Mount makes perfect sense as a target when you look at the current options. The squad is sorely lacking in O'Shea or Park-style utility figures who will work their bollocks off and can cover a whole range of positions. I don't think £55m would be overpaying by much, if at all given his age and nationality, though £70m+ obviously would.
50+5M is the correct final offer. Seems a very fair price and we shouldnt pay a penny more.
Good case study then. As long as you are successful it doesn’t matter about your poor business.
Also keep it to the point I was referring to. Your response is about our ownership.
If we get Mount and Rabiot that means we've gone from a midfield of Bruno/mctominay/Fred/Pereira/Matic/Lingard to a midfield of Bruno/casemiro/eriksen/Mount/Rabiot in the space of 2 seasons I think that's very good I don't get all the complaining.
Of course it would as it is only 5mil under what they are asking!!
This Fab character is a fecking clown.
What?
55m is bit too much but if it helps in resolving the transfer quicker then fair enough but we shouldn't cave in easily, I like Mount but he ain't 55m player at this moment since he had a poor season and he is the on his last year of contract
That's how I remember. We usually overpay and get the signing done or we brief the excuse on why we couldn't complete the transfer.
Think I would rather Mount for £55m than Havertz for £65m
You are supposed to read it and not listen to it
Hope we accept this offer so this saga can be over with and we can start bringing player in next week rather than sending them out.
£55m or more is a fantastic haul for someone who is in his final year and who no longer wants to be here. We’d be stupid to dig our heels in for more than that.
£55m or more is a fantastic haul for someone who is in his final year and who no longer wants to be here. We’d be stupid to dig our heels in for more than that.
Without a doubt.
At the end of the day we aren’t getting another player of Mounts ability for 55m.
Do it. Will be a great addition
Do it. Will be a great addition
If we sign Mount on a 5 year contract we will be paying him circa £200k/week along with lets says a £55m transfer fee. Thats £107m over the course of the contract. Thats £410,000/week along with paying a large chunk of that up front. He would 100% be commanding a very high salary as a free agent.
They are very similar level players at the moment, so this doesn't surprise me. Mount at his best is a better player. He's also surprisingly younger!
Central midfield is a massive concern, I agree. The question about Mount is not player ability but more whether he is the correct tactical fit, given he's far more of an offensive 8/hard-working no.10 like Bruno Fernandes.
I thought the price tag would be an overpay and it probably will be a small one but in todays market you don't get much for less than £50 million.
I will still take come convincing that Mount is the type of player to move us up a few levels but if ETH wants him then that's good with me.
I will still take come convincing that Mount is the type of player to move us up a few levels but if ETH wants him then that's good with me.
We are paying Varane 300k a week for playing once a fortnight.
I was pretty negative about this transfer at first but the more I've thought about it I realise he's likely to be a really good acquisition if we get him.
Eriksen brings a lot of on the ball quality but in a lot of games I watched he blew up and couldn't get around the park, absolutely bypassed in midfield by other teams which meant we were immediately under pressure.
Fred has the energy but often little on the ball quality so Mount could well be somewhere in between for that midfield spot. We also don't have decent cover for Bruno if he needs to be rested or gets injured, Mount could play that role as well potentially.
Time will tell but could actually be a really shrewd signing if we get him.
I fear United will once again overpay for a player that seemingly is being sought out, due to being a cheaper English alternative, when in reality Declan Rice is the player who would define our midfield for years to come.
It doesn't work that way though. He might get a larger sign on fee in lieu of a transfer fee but he wouldn't receive substantially higher wages as a result.
Mount on 400k a week is a recipe to break any club's wage structure.
Curious how much he would be valued at if he had 2+ years left on his contract?
Can they put his best season that is 21/22 as best vs best comparison wheel.
You will have to sign some other player. If he has two years in contract you can't price him away from us. If you asked so may be 100 mn +.
I'm pretty on the fence - I think Mount offers a lot of positives but doesn't do much about the general negatives we have in midfield (mostly ball retention in the first and middle phase of the pitch).
I also think he's obviously a better footballer than Eriksen and Fred, but I don't think either of those are close to good enough to be starting XI quality.
In an ideal world I'd rather we spent that £55m on an equivalent central midfielder who plays more in the middle third, ticks possession around, commands the ball a bit more to prevent Casemiro (and sometimes Fernandes) from just instantly pumping the ball to a Rashford over the top run.
We aren't getting that, though, so I just hope Haggy has a clear plan in mind with fitting Mount in.
This isn't going to happen but i would love if they reject the bid and we just go steal Caicedo from them
I think Mount is one of these players where, as supporters, you probably have to accept that there is more to him than meets the eye.
I’ve never really bought into him as a player, and that’s primarily based on what I’ve seen of him in an England shirt. Lots of fart and no shit is my general impression.
But this is a guy who has played more or less every single game under Lampard, Tuchel and Southgate and is now highly sought after by Ten Hag. Pochettino is reportedly keen to work with him, and there have been plenty of links with Liverpool under Klopp.
I think we need to trust the manager on this one. Ideally, I’d like more ball retention in the middle of the park, but Ten Hag will have his plans for what his team will eventually look like, and we won’t be sanctioning the best part of £60 million if he didn’t think it’d work.
I’ve never really bought into him as a player, and that’s primarily based on what I’ve seen of him in an England shirt. Lots of fart and no shit is my general impression.
But this is a guy who has played more or less every single game under Lampard, Tuchel and Southgate and is now highly sought after by Ten Hag. Pochettino is reportedly keen to work with him, and there have been plenty of links with Liverpool under Klopp.
I think we need to trust the manager on this one. Ideally, I’d like more ball retention in the middle of the park, but Ten Hag will have his plans for what his team will eventually look like, and we won’t be sanctioning the best part of £60 million if he didn’t think it’d work.
I'm sure he won't let us down, hopefully gets done in 72 hours.
The way I look at it is we are getting a very good player from a rival team for what is still a fee below his market value and who they normally wouldn’t sell at all (if he still had a longer contract). Very similar to Van Persie signing, hopefully he turns out as good eh.
How much did Ramsey earn at Juve as a free agent? He isn't anywhere near the player Mount is.
So what? What does a fan vote have to do with anything? The more important is the player fit and what he brings. For £55m what are we getting? A guy that runs a lot but rarely creates anything?
Blah,blah,blah.
That's a flawed comparison, mainly because Liverpool's front 3 of Salah, Firmino and Mane were far better than anything we have and so could compensate for less creativity from midfield (and I include Rashford - great season but he's a tier below Mane or Salah).
And of course having Klopp manage them.
Thinking about it. Mount, Onana and some not crooked striker who can find a net + some young potential or two would not be bad summer.
I like Mount, so I hope we get this done. Mount can cover for Bruno and Eriksen, and be a starter where we need more energy in the midfield. In a pinch he can tackle and defend too. More importantly, I think he's one of those people who'll always give you a 6-7/10 performance... That consistency will be huge for us.
A midfield with options of Eriksen, Mount, Fred, Bruno, Casemiro, AND TOM HUDDLESTONE will give us a solid set of options depending on our setup.
A midfield with options of Eriksen, Mount, Fred, Bruno, Casemiro, AND TOM HUDDLESTONE will give us a solid set of options depending on our setup.
You're no longer sceptical on what he can bring because it looks like it might actually happen?
I just want to know how many old posts calling Mount average or worse have been deleted
A lot of you seem fairly confident we're getting Rabiot on a free - is this just wishful conjecture or are we actually in for him?
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