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Are we seriously comparing Mason Mount to one of the best strikers in the world? Come on
Who is 30 and only has a year left on his contract, 100 million is obscene even for Harry Kane
 
I think he's a decent/underrated footballer but nothing more than a squad player and doesn't provide any of the aspects that we need and lack. We need technical press resistant players, ball carries from deep who don't lose it often and can progress the ball reliably for us. Mount is just depth which we have with Eriksen and fred.
 
Would rather get JWP.
Got me wrong. Wasn't comparing skillset ot ability. From a team standpoint, JWP fits us more than Mount. He is also home grown.
Mount is miles better than JWP. Pretty convinced Ward-Prowse is the most overrated player in the Premier League today because of how excellent his free kicks are. People assume someone so good at free kicks has to be great at other things but he's really not. He's a lower mid-table PL player and that's it.
 
He is trash, ffs where is our scouting department ?

I would rather have Maddison, same situation.
 
People moaning about the incredibly high fee for a 24 year old on the last year of his contract are no doubt okay spunking 100 million on a 30 year old on the last year of his contract though.
It's almost as if one of these is amongst the best players of his generation and fits the profile of what we need and the other one is Mason Mount.
 
People moaning about the incredibly high fee for a 24 year old on the last year of his contract are no doubt okay spunking 100 million on a 30 year old on the last year of his contract though.

Mount may not be the best player we could buy, but he's young, would count as homegrown, has qualities, and i'm sorry but he would be a bigger upgrade over DVB, Fred, Sabitzer etc so i'm all for it personally, I still think we would need another midfielder though
The 30 year old is a world-class player who is one of the best in the world at his position. Mount is your run of mill overhyped mediocre English player. Being a slight improvement over a loan signing and a flop is not much of an achievement for a 100mn signing.
 
People moaning about the incredibly high fee for a 24 year old on the last year of his contract are no doubt okay spunking 100 million on a 30 year old on the last year of his contract though.

Mount may not be the best player we could buy, but he's young, would count as homegrown, has qualities, and i'm sorry but he would be a bigger upgrade over DVB, Fred, Sabitzer etc so i'm all for it personally, I still think we would need another midfielder though

Bit of a daft comparison isn't it? I don't see why it even makes sense.
 
would have to assume zero credibility behind this, just dont see the rhyme or reason for it. At least the dumbass neymar shit has the potential to make 1 percent sense. An overpriced english player who literally plays where our most durable player who is also our captain? yeah nah.
 
Could be a smart little roll of the dice with 20-25 shaved off the quoted price
 
Are we seriously comparing Mason Mount to one of the best strikers in the world? Come on
That's obviously not what my point was

It's almost as if one of these is amongst the best players of his generation and fits the profile of what we need and the other one is Mason Mount.
And yet it will cost us virtually all of our reported summer budget (without sales) for a player who may decline in a couple of years or so and for a player who - on their own - won't get us closer to City, we need more than that.

The 30 year old is a world-class player who is one of the best in the world at his position. Mount is your run of mill overhyped mediocre English player. Being a slight improvement over a loan signing and a flop is not much of an achievement for a 100mn signing.
Mount won't cost 100 million though, and will also have resale value if he doesn't quite work out here, because he's only 24. Kane will have 0 resale value and may go downhill within the next few years, for 100 million, which is all of our reported presale budget.

My point was just that both of them are stupid prices for players on the last year of their contract, but at least with Mount he has time on his side and potential resale value if it doesn't work out. Kane has neither of these if he goes downhill
 
Would rather sign Maddison who would be cheaper as well. Considering Leicester is most likely to go down.
 
It's almost as if one of these is amongst the best players of his generation and fits the profile of what we need and the other one is Mason Mount.
But also, there are plenty of people who don't want either Kane or Mount.

I'd be happy to take Mount on a free transfer if his contract was expiring; he'd be a useful squad player as long as he's OK with that role. But paying a substantial amount of money for him? Not a good idea.
 
Mount would be an terribly underwhelming signing. Not the level of player we should be targeting.
 
Bang average

Wouldn’t work regardless alongside Bruno and Casemiro there’s no balance in midfield.

Would rather go for Maddison if we’re looking for that profile of player.
 
And yet it will cost us virtually all of our reported summer budget (without sales) for a player who may decline in a couple of years or so and for a player who - on their own - won't get us closer to City, we need more than that.
Whether Kane wins us a league title or not he would very obviously move us much closer to City. We have the 2nd highest xG underperformance in the entire league behind only Everton. This is directly linked to our terrible lack of options in the striker position.
 
Don’t think there’s any truth in this. It’s probably a tactic and then we get our main target under the radar so no one els gets them.
 
Would rather sign Maddison who would be cheaper as well. Considering Leicester is most likely to go down.

Yeah Maddison has a real swagger and think he would love playing here,however see him joining Newcastle. Probably did most of the deal while he was there on Monday
 
Yeah Maddison has a real swagger and think he would love playing here,however see him joining Newcastle. Probably did most of the deal while he was there on Monday
He’s another injury prone player though that we don’t need. He is class though.
 
One thing I would note regarding the idea that Mount wouldn't fit our midfield is that a lot of posters were making the same point regarding Eriksen last summer, arguing that he was someone who would be an alternative to Bruno rather than used alongside him as that midfield would lack balance. Yet it has been our first choice midfield all season.

Mount wouldn't be my idea of the profile we need, but it's not at all impossible that ETH has a different view on what the make-up of the midfield should look like.
 
Bang average

Wouldn’t work regardless alongside Bruno and Casemiro there’s no balance in midfield.

Would rather go for Maddison if we’re looking for that profile of player.
We shouldn't be going near either
 
Yeah Maddison has a real swagger and think he would love playing here,however see him joining Newcastle. Probably did most of the deal while he was there on Monday
He grew up as a United fan, so yes, he would love playing here.
 
One thing I would note regarding the idea that Mount wouldn't fit our midfield is that a lot of posters were making the same point regarding Eriksen last summer, arguing that he was someone who would be an alternative to Bruno rather than used alongside him as that midfield would lack balance. Yet it has been our first choice midfield all season.

Mount wouldn't be my idea of the profile we need, but it's not at all impossible that ETH has a different view on what the make-up of the midfield should look like.
Eriksen was a free transfer though, and although our midfield has been much improved our midfield has regularly been overrun against bigger teams. We need a more physical player who can also pass the ball, mount can run but isn't particularly physical and doesn't have a great passing range
 
One thing I would note regarding the idea that Mount wouldn't fit our midfield is that a lot of posters were making the same point regarding Eriksen last summer, arguing that he was someone who would be an alternative to Bruno rather than used alongside him as that midfield would lack balance. Yet it has been our first choice midfield all season.

Mount wouldn't be my idea of the profile we need, but it's not at all impossible that ETH has a different view on what the make-up of the midfield should look like.
That's a fair point - I definitely thought there was no way Eriksen would consistently play CM, given he had only ever done it occasionally before. Although I'd say the fears about imbalance didn't prove to be completely baseless.
 
Mount is a good player, but not worth £55m, £50m, or even £40m. He'd be a good pick up in the £25-35m range.
 
That's obviously not what my point was


And yet it will cost us virtually all of our reported summer budget (without sales) for a player who may decline in a couple of years or so and for a player who - on their own - won't get us closer to City, we need more than that.


Mount won't cost 100 million though, and will also have resale value if he doesn't quite work out here, because he's only 24. Kane will have 0 resale value and may go downhill within the next few years, for 100 million, which is all of our reported presale budget.

My point was just that both of them are stupid prices for players on the last year of their contract, but at least with Mount he has time on his side and potential resale value if it doesn't work out. Kane has neither of these if he goes downhill
Mythical resale value like the one maguire has or the one martial has.
 
Mythical resale value like the one maguire has or the one martial has.
Well to be fair the Maguire one helps my point a little, anyone and their grandmothers could have told you 80 million for Maguire was daylight robbery. How is anyone ever going to make money back on that?

We decided to pay Martial an obscene amount of money that he wasn't worth, it's no wonder nobody wants to buy him.

Perhaps if we stopped making stupid financial decisions with these transfers and our own players we could get value, quality, potential resale value, and a squad that's actually worth the money we are paying.

Harry Kane is quality everyone is correct, and i'd love us to have him, that still doesn't change the fact to me that spunking 100 million odd on a 30 year old in the last year of the contract is crazy, especially when, again, that's virtually all of our reported pre-player sales budget this summer.

Regardless I think Mount for 50 million is stupid as well, but we seem interested in both so :wenger:
 
He is a good player but would add nothing here.
I would rather pay much more money to buy Rice instead.
We need a Scholes type midfielder. But if we are going for someone like Mount instead, then I‘d rather have Rice (+Case and Bruno).
 
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Wouldn’t work regardless alongside Bruno and Casemiro there’s no balance in midfield.

Would rather go for Maddison if we’re looking for that profile of player.

I like Maddison well enough but if we're talking about either of them actually playing in Eriksen's current role in the team then Mount makes a lot more sense to me as he's a lot better in terms of pressing and defensive work.
 
For the right price then yes. For instance if we move McTominay and are able to bring in Mount for a net positive in transfer fees then absolutely do it.
 
He seems to be rated by everyone yet whenever I've seen him he's looked like the worst player on the pitch with both Chelsea and England.
 
Feel like he’s got Van De Beek syndrome. Not really good enough as a 10, not really combative enough to be an 8, and doesn’t really excel at anything. Just a decent all rounder.
 
People moaning about the incredibly high fee for a 24 year old on the last year of his contract are no doubt okay spunking 100 million on a 30 year old on the last year of his contract though.

Mount may not be the best player we could buy, but he's young, would count as homegrown, has qualities, and i'm sorry but he would be a bigger upgrade over DVB, Fred, Sabitzer etc so i'm all for it personally, I still think we would need another midfielder though
Imo it is paper talk. I don’t think any team would be crazy enough to spend 100m on Kane. Maybe 40m-70m(incl pl/cl win bonus).
 
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