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Rumours in the news now that 3-4 bigger clubs are interested, we are looking at 50M. 
Rumours in the news now that 3-4 bigger clubs are interested, we are looking at 50M.![]()
I don't know about all that but Grannies and Chips is an awesome combo![]()
But to sell him for the reason to spare him from abuse is a stupid argument.
You mean one of those 'what if he hadn't been a disgusting (alleged) violent domestic abuser?' type players?He’s potentially a brilliant player and still a good age. We wouldn’t have sold him for double that 3 years ago. It’s a good deal for them. I hope we can spark a bidding war because he’s going to be one of those what if players when he gets into a more dominant team
Yes, it would be stupid if it were for that reason alone.
But let's get back to the real world:
United don't actually believe he's done nothing wrong. They don't actually believe he's some sort of victim here. And they certainly don't sit on any evidence that would make such a stance (Greenwood is innocent, there's nothing to see here, just a series of unfortunate circumstances) plausible in the slightest.
That was quite a common concern, especially when that video came out of him in the car with his partner. Then what happened on England duty. There were red flags everywhere and think it was an MEN article who brought to light it started to seep into his professionalism under Ole.I'll always repeat what I'd heard on the grapevine a while ago.
United had massive concerns about Greenwood going back to around 2020/2021.
On the pitch, he was doing well but there were clear issues off the pitch long before this story came out.
I'll always repeat what I'd heard on the grapevine a while ago.
United had massive concerns about Greenwood going back to around 2020/2021.
On the pitch, he was doing well but there were clear issues off the pitch long before this story came out.
That was quite a common concern, especially when that video came out of him in the car with his partner. Then what happened on England duty. There were red flags everywhere and think it was an MEN article who brought to light it started to seep into his professionalism under Ole.
I don't think any one truly imagined it would be as bad to the extent to what came out, but I hope that is a lesson to all when it comes to managing young men in the future and taking note of their behaviour.
I could be misremembering, but didn't it take a while for Southgate to actually call him up, too? He made his debut for us in 2018 and only got his first cap in August 2020.I feel like there was something behind the scenes with "bad vibes" there too.I'll always repeat what I'd heard on the grapevine a while ago.
United had massive concerns about Greenwood going back to around 2020/2021.
On the pitch, he was doing well but there were clear issues off the pitch long before this story came out.
So I think within that MEN article, there was a lot of noise that either his dad/agent were pretty demanding with his inclusion in England squads. I.e. if he's not guaranteed game time, he won't bother. I think Southgate didn't fancy adding his character to the squad in general, gave him a chance and the Iceland incident happened. Foden subsequently apologized and Greenwood didn't think he'd done anything that warranted an apology, allegedly.I could be misremembering, but didn't it take a while for Southgate to actually call him up, too? He made his debut for us in 2018 and only got his first cap in August 2020.I feel like there was something behind the scenes with "bad vibes" there too.
Looks like he is leaving Getafe for good. Maybe Napoli, Juventus or Dortmund bound.
Anyway, Ineos should make an announcement one way or another soon. Season already ended.
Agreed. The club should announce their intention as soon as possible instead of leaving it til the end again.
The scum saying he's put his UK house up for rent.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/28077587/mason-greenwood-mansion-rent-quitting-man-utd/
He was renting it anyway wasn't he?The scum saying he's put his UK house up for rent.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/28077587/mason-greenwood-mansion-rent-quitting-man-utd/
Fair point, I scanned it and assumed he was letting a place he owned out. It's not even clear from the article when he last lived there.He was renting it anyway wasn't he?
They say the bolded like it was a reason to stay.“The house was his home when he hit the big time with the club.
“It was also where he was ordered out of bed by detectives when he was arrested, and became his sanctuary when waiting to find out if he was going to be charged.”
It's the Sun mate,Fair point, I scanned it and assumed he was letting a place he owned out. It's not even clear from the article when he last lived there.
They say the bolded like it was a reason to stay.
How many penalties and how many v semi pro players?So in the end of the day, his Getafe loan figures are as follows:
- 33 matches played
- 10G + 6A = 16 goal contributions
- 181 minutes per G/A
- 6 yellow cards, 1 straight red
Nothing spectacular, but on the other hand, only Bruno and Rasmus delivered better stats for United this season.
Not sure about semi pro players. He scored 2G in 3 Copa del Rey matches, and 8G+6A in La Liga.How many penalties and how many v semi pro players?
Not sure about semi pro players. He scored 2G in 3 Copa del Rey matches, and 8G+6A in La Liga.
With regards to penalties - 2 out of 3 scored.
Can I just remind people that his girlfriend posted an image with blood all over her face saying this is what Mason Greenwood does to me?
I urge people to listen to that audio again. I don't know is that time has made people forget how vicious it was or because he's a valuable commodity at our club, you choose to forget it. Just think of someone like P Diddy, that's the level of man he is.
Agreed. The club should announce their intention as soon as possible instead of leaving it til the end again.
Not going to argue the DV and sports link. It's very well documented. And considering United has one of the biggest fanbases in the world, YES you are likely minimizing DV in the world if United does well.
I mean just consider this chat group. Would any of you be talking about Domestic Abuse if Greenwood was gone? Probably not. The fact that he's still here drives a conversation because of what happened. And I'm glad because I think awareness and perspective is what helps improve communities with complex issues like this.
I don't care about empty gestures like let's get rid of this person because they did something horrible. Might sound great in your heads, but running away doesn't solve any problems. Instead we should hold people accountable and make them learn from their mistakes. It's harder and makes everyone uncomfortable but I strongly believe it leads to better outcomes. There is no other way to hold him accountable since the courts acquitted him. So consider what you're proposing. Let him move somewhere else and hide away from what he did.
By no means is having him return mean that you are okay with what he's done. People only think 1 thing can be true at a time and that's just a limitation of how you choose to think and perceive the world. Hold him accountable, raise awareness for domestic violence, and stop sucking at football. Why not do all?
They say the bolded like it was a reason to stay.
Its a ongoing debate and depends where your moral compass is set?
Probably the only person that really matters in a restorative way is the victim.
I guess its a job and whether you want someone who has alleged committed a crime (but not convicted) working for you.
There are thousands of fans across the world who have or done worst. Should they no longer be fans?
190 min per G/A in La Liga, or 222 min per non-penalty G/A. That’s better than Garnacho and Rashford delivered this season (significantly better than Rashford if we deduct his penalties).So 6 non penalty goals in 33 appearances.
He’s got a non-pen goal every 5 and a half games and an assist slightly worse than every 4 games.
They’re not representing their clubs.Its a ongoing debate and depends where your moral compass is set?
Probably the only person that really matters in a restorative way is the victim.
I guess its a job and whether you want someone who has alleged committed a crime (but not convicted) working for you.
There are thousands of fans across the world who have or done worst. Should they no longer be fans?
They’re not representing their clubs.
Its a ongoing debate and depends where your moral compass is set?
Probably the only person that really matters in a restorative way is the victim.
I guess its a job and whether you want someone who has alleged committed a crime (but not convicted) working for you.
There are thousands of fans across the world who have or done worst. Should they no longer be fans?
I think you know what I mean. If i batter my wife it’s “Joe bloggs from x has been arrested for battery” if a footballer does it, “Joe bloggs, Manchester United and England footballer has been arrested”Fans dont represent their clubs? You just have.
So I'm saying he's allegedly physically assaulted and sexually assaulted his girlfriend and your argument is but some fans have done worse?Its a ongoing debate and depends where your moral compass is set?
Probably the only person that really matters in a restorative way is the victim.
I guess its a job and whether you want someone who has alleged committed a crime (but not convicted) working for you.
There are thousands of fans across the world who have or done worst. Should they no longer be fans?
He just played his second chanceI hope he will be back, deserves another chance.