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Fallen Muppet. Lest we never forget
You are entirely consistent in being a troll yes.I am entirely consistent. I am clearly not trolling.
You are entirely consistent in being a troll yes.I am entirely consistent. I am clearly not trolling.
Well if ETH has a fair say in this then we know whats gonna happenYep, I fear you may be right.
He would also help the club in terms of FFP if he left for a decent fee.
There's a chance.
Makes us 40, let me know which world class right winger we can sign for 40.
I'll wait
I think he's just giving himself the option of bringing him back after he consults with ETH and the new management team.
You are entirely consistent in being a troll yes.
You really have no morals.
Or saying we have not made a decision on him will help negotiate a higher fee for him. It’s harder to negotiate if people know you have to sell.
Just seen the Ratcliffe statement. Hmmm.
Stopped reading at thisnothing I have ever said can be remotely considered as trolling.
You’re calling me a troll because I originally took umbrage with how you changed your position on state ownership as soon as it benefited you. You don’t then have the right to come and criticise the club or anyone for moral failings or outrage.
To see people like you act like it was morally dubious to get rid of Mason is insane to me. You don’t care what the right thing to do is - you care about winning shiny new trophies.
People keep coming into this thread like “why are some people being mean to those who want a player who is on audio trying to rape his girlfriend after she put up photos of him battering her - we are the real victims”
it is absolutely angin. None of you care aboht what is right - so why should I pretend you do?
Why would his mum make statements?People are overacting. He will be sold, not because of the fear of backlash. But because financially it’s straight profit for a player that hasn’t played for us for near on 3 years.
He can’t just spend because of FFP. But there is a minimum of £200m to spend if they sell the correct players this summer. MG is one of those players.
He will want to bring in players this summer to make a statement. There will be the usual 100-150m plus player sales. I’m expecting a £300m summer spend.
But as I’ve previously said. Jim being a staunch Brexit Tory he wouldn’t get rid of Greenwood because of SM cancel culture. It goes against how they think.
But using logic he will be sold for financial reasons.
The logic for keeping him is that the alternatives are not better than him. If they want to keep him it takes one statement explaining a few small points. This would likely include statements from Mrs Greenwood, and her family.
No, but it definitely equals four if you have no more info in the equation.
We need more info in the equation. No chance this can be done without it. Not saying either part of this argument is correct or wrong, but it’s not going to be remotely ok without some explanation and transparency from the club.
Aye, but if we get no more info, the info we have remains the story.
Do we need another right winger?
Exactly. Take the money and run.Do we need another right winger?
Garnacho can play on the right too. Also, whatever we spend on a new RW can be amortized over the length of their contract, as far as I'm aware, whereas Greenwood would be 40 million direct injection as a homegrown player. Whereas if we sold someone we'd previously bought, as I understand it we'd have to offset what we received against what we had left on the fee as amortized. I may be wrong...happy to learn otherwise.If Sancho, Greenwood and Pellestri are probably going to be sold then yes.
If Greenwood returns we would probably start next season with Greenwood and Antony as senior right wing players. With Amad in reserve.
Exactly. There is absolutely no way back for him at the club. He also doesn’t need replaced since he’s never been in our team for over 2 years now. So anything above say 40m is great biz for generating money to be spent on the squad rebuild. Martial away, Sancho Away plus greenwood funds will hopefully generate enough to buy a back up striker and a winger. Some proper wind up on go on this thread mind. It’s a pity the bookies weren’t offering odds on whether he plays for us again or not I’d clean up . Greenwood wasn’t exactly an Angel before this remember no chance at all of him back. For his sake hopefully he can save his career in Dortmund - oops yup Spain though I hope someone else plays well for DortmundWe’re almost certainly going to sell him in the Summer, so what did you want him to say? Give us a pack of bubble gum and he’s yours?
Exactly. There is absolutely no way back for him at the club. He also doesn’t need replaced since he’s never been in our team for over 2 years now. So anything above say 40m is great biz for generating money to be spent on the squad rebuild. Martial away, Sancho Away plus greenwood funds will hopefully generate enough to buy a back up striker and a winger. Some proper wind up on go on this thread mind. It’s a pity the bookies weren’t offering odds on whether he plays for us again or not I’d clean up . Greenwood wasn’t exactly an Angel before this remember no chance at all of him back. For his sake hopefully he can save his career in Dortmund
That’s a rather large leap from an innocuous sentence. I liked it by the way, the statement I mean.We’re almost certainly going to sell him in the Summer, so what did you want him to say? Give us a pack of bubble gum and he’s yours?
Correct and amortisation would apply to Sancho and Antony. What's worse is, once you sell them, the outstanding amount becomes due immediately, rather than over the years left on their contract. I want to sale these two but making money from their transfer would be unbearable.Exactly. Take the money and run.
Garnacho can play on the right too. Also, whatever we spend on a new RW can be amortized over the length of their contract, as far as I'm aware, whereas Greenwood would be 40 million direct injection as a homegrown player. Whereas if we sold someone we'd previously bought, as I understand it we'd have to offset what we received against what we had left on the fee as amortized. I may be wrong...happy to learn otherwise.
If Sancho, Greenwood and Pellestri are probably going to be sold then yes.
If Greenwood returns we would probably start next season with Greenwood and Antony as senior right wing players. With Amad in reserve.
We've been brilliant for two years now. Can't wait to take on City with Antony on the flanks.Exactly. There is absolutely no way back for him at the club. He also doesn’t need replaced since he’s never been in our team for over 2 years now.
This.He's a smart cookie. He's a businessman, or course he won't dismiss Greenwood entirely, because if he does, Greenwood's transfer value will plummet even further.
If SJR is talking about the club's values, then Greenwood has no place at our club.
Greenwood will be sold in the summer, I have no doubt about that.
I’d love to know what team you think are going to buy Sancho and pay his 350k a week contract. Best we can hope for is another loanCorrect and amortisation would apply to Sancho and Antony. What's worse is, once you sell them, the outstanding amount becomes due immediately, rather than over the years left on their contract. I want to sale these two but making money from their transfer would be unbearable.
Or not selling him for peanuts and giving Gaffffffffeee 25%.
His next game is against Barcelona on Saturday. I think that will have a big impact on how much we can expect for him as the big games naturally draw more attention and show how well he hangs with the leagues best.I don't know if that would affect his fee as much as how well Greenwood actually plays in the next 2-3 months. If he finishes strong, he could raise his current valuation by as much as 50-75% imo.
I’d love to know what team you think are going to buy Sancho and pay his 350k a week contract. Best we can hope for is another loan
The "all young people get in trouble from time to time" bit is indeed concerning.Have to say those SJR quotes have me worried. They're pretty neutral but I wouldn't be surprised if he's smoothing the way for a return. At this point if I had to put money on one or the other, I would probably bet on him coming back. Which would be entirely morally bankrupt on the club's part as far as I'm concerned. Really, really hope Ratcliffe is just trying to preserve Greenwood's value to some degree and that I'm just disaster thinking.
Surely if it’s a divisive decision then he’d jeopardise the relationship with the fan base that wants him to return? No? Last poll I saw was pretty much 50/50 on whether fans wanted him back. The anti squad shout louder though of course!This.
All of the goodwill his partial takeover has generated, there's no way he'd jeopardise that with such a divisive decision so soon into his ownership.
I think it can be seen either way. Either he's protecting value or he's paving the way for a different decision.The "all young people get in trouble from time to time" bit is indeed concerning.
Nah it’s way less than 50/50, I’d say 90/10 at least who don’t want him back, and most of those 10 are African twitterers.Surely if it’s a divisive decision then he’d jeopardise the relationship with the fan base that wants him to return? No? Last poll I saw was pretty much 50/50 on whether fans wanted him back. The anti squad shout louder though of course!
Surely if it’s a divisive decision then he’d jeopardise the relationship with the fan base that wants him to return? No? Last poll I saw was pretty much 50/50 on whether fans wanted him back. The anti squad shout louder though of course!
I know you’re being facetious but the United statement reads:I quick 10min chat with Emily Maitlis on Newsnight will soon get this ugly mess cleared up.
Nah it’s way less than 50/50, I’d say 90/10 at least who don’t want him back, and most of those 10 are African twitterers.
Agreed. Too close to 'boys will be boys' for my liking.The "all young people get in trouble from time to time" bit is indeed concerning.
Those that want him to return wouldn't object much if he's sold, but those who want him sold would obviously object a lot if he returns, which is why SJR's choice of words would be interpreted as more amenable for a return than a sale. In fact, if he wanted to sell the player, he could just as well announce it now without much of a penalty since he won't be faulted for wanting to begin his stint at OT without the controversy.
No way he comes back.The poll on here was 55% on wanting him back - whether that's representative of the fanbase is another question