I heard ten hag wants him back asap
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Interesting to see how much 18 months off has impacted his development
Yeh not true, they are trying to get a loan away for him as nobody will buy him as he’s been out so long.
Loan, his absence last season did regress the team in the sense that Weghorst was purchased. Football isn't the most physically demanding sport (Tennis, Boxing etc) so I don't think it would take a long time to regain match fitness.
I honestly doubt it, it will take a certain street tough mentality to get back to his best.
Loan him out and if he gets his fitness levels back and does well, he can be sold to whoever wants him next summer. Makes the most sense.
He's our responsibility - I wouldn't loan him out. Get him match fit and reintegrate into the squad. Rehabilitation off the pitch will be a long road - not for this thread though.
I fully expect us not to bring a striker in and for him to be in the squad after the first couple of weeks.
Weren’t Atalanta wanting him on loan? Be a good move for him.
In respect of ability/fitness he's in exactly the same position as any other player who's had a long term injury, Luke Shaw for example and there are plenty of others, ultimately it's down to him
Whatever the club's decision is - keep, loan, or sell - they need to make it soon. Continuously kicking the can down the road doesn't do anyone any good.
Football wise I think it makes more sense to keep him instead of loaning him out. I would take an 18 month break, no form, no confidence having Mason Greenwood over Martial any day.
Use this preseason tour to get him slowly back to playing football, then have him on loan to Atalanta to buy their striker for a discounted price seems good.
He'll definitely play football again but hopefully not at Utd. Loan him out abroad, get him back fit and then sell him on.
If that's the case then I am assuming United won't have any issues allowing option to buy if Club taking Greenwood on loan requests it .
He's obviously a great shooter
But his other part of the game, movement, dribbling, passing, decision making, work rate, fighting spirit etc is quite lacking in my opinion.
I didn't watch youngster game so I may be wrong, but I don't think he's a generation talent striker as many making him to be. Can someone shed some light onto this?
But his other part of the game, movement, dribbling, passing, decision making, work rate, fighting spirit etc is quite lacking in my opinion.
I didn't watch youngster game so I may be wrong, but I don't think he's a generation talent striker as many making him to be. Can someone shed some light onto this?
With the market scarce of affordbale good strikers, I can see us start the season with Rashford up top whilst Greenwood works on his fitness and match prep for 6 months. Essentially what ETH did with Samcho last season. Greenwood would come in for the 2nd half of the season ready. It'll feel like a January window signing of a new forward.
Those players will have been in the club going through rehab work though. He's been totally cut adrift. While I'm sure he's been training personally I imagine it's nowhere near what injured players get re support, planning, guidance etc.
Yep, I do think there's a fair amount of over hyping his ability on here.
People always were excited by his potential. No one is saying he could come back and immediately take us to the title.
Anyway, talking about the football aspect feels like its trivialising the utterly despicable thing he did.
So I'm out.
So I'm out.
There's no way that amount of time away from competitive games hasn't negatively affected his development in a significant way, sadly
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Bar a huge loan fee or a marquee striker coming in, I'd keep him. We need all the goals we can get. If he flops then we release him. If he does great we can keep him or sell him for a good fee. That's the smart, rational way to handle this.
Nah couldn't disagree more. He was maturing game by game and his dribbling, speed, passing, vision and shooting were all coming along nicely. I do recall a good number of posters didn't like how selfish he could be when dribbling to get the shot off, but personally with his ability that's exactly what I wanted. The only area I'd say he was lacking was workrate, but even then id have it higher then Rashford, Martial or Sancho.
I reckon we're gonna try and phase him back in after a loan
he's worth a lot of money, and unfortunately that seems to be the most important factor nowadays
he's worth a lot of money, and unfortunately that seems to be the most important factor nowadays
Also bears noting that this conversation has been had on other football forums and reddit and Twitter without the world collapsing, and it makes no sense why the mods are treating this like a hot potato. But anyways, football talk only.
Plus he’s still very young so time is on his side.
Same. Anything football related from United's perspective should be considered irrelevant now.
Get him out of the club so he can resume his career elsewhere and the club can move on.
I believe 2025 with the option of another year.
I hope he'll join the squad for pre season asap.
He's naturally two footed, with probably the best hip I've seen since RVN. Then that very rare tiny backlift and the shot is still so powerful. He's also very fast, a quite decent dribbler and passer, his decision making and football brain is also very good already but he's a bit selfish as any young striker. Workrate and fighting spirit is also pretty good.
He's a very rare commodity imo he's even more naturally blessed than Mbappe. If you ever play football you'd understand how hard for defenders to deal with a two footed and fast striker. You simply couldn't know which side he'd take you on or shoot from. The only thing he lacks atm imo is a bit strength to fend against the CBs to keep the ball or get into the position to score and you'd have a top #9 already.
If you check my posting history I rarely hype any young player but this one is truly a generational talent imo. What a shame really.
Either way mentally and physically he could do with a loan for a year to get his fitness back.
After that it should be up to Ten Hag and the squad, if they're happy to have him back then I imagine he'll return to playing for United.
After that it should be up to Ten Hag and the squad, if they're happy to have him back then I imagine he'll return to playing for United.
Should be sold. Not saying he doesn't deserve another chance but it should be as far away from the club as possible for the foreseeable future. Who knows, maybe if he redeems himself and is still good enough 5 years down the line he could come back, my concern is that this will all just end up being bad for everyone involved with United facing backlash and the guy getting away with his actions and ultimately facing no real consequences all because he's good at football.
Sell or even give away for free.
If we don’t get to sign new striker (not the best market for a striker right now), I can see us playing him at some point of the season (if he is getting the green light to play). But definitely need to regain his form and fitness first.
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