But other players speak English. It’s more or less common for every country to teach English in school - so even if not fluently, but his teammates should have at least basic knowledge of English
That said, G+A this time
Mason Greenwood | 2023/24 Performances | on loan to Getafe
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That said, G+A this time
I'd guess people aren't posting in that thread because there hasn't been anything new about the club's plans for him for months now.
We can't score a goal. Our wingers are toothless. And he's out in Spain scoring and assisting. Farcical, utterly farcical. I'm reaching the end of caring about football if this continues. Why bother watching today? Mctominay, Rashford or Hojlund aren't gonna score. Antony or Garnacho aren't gonna do anything. But yes, send our strongest forward on loan cos social media pressured man utd to not take him back. How is him playing in a different country doing us any help? I actually am livid.
Plenty of posts from this thread could have been in there. Why would you suggest people are waiting for news from the club before they post in there? People either want to talk about it or they just want to snipe at eachother... Looking at the inactivity in that thread I'd say it is the latter.
What hurts the most is the jump in performance we saw from Rashford in the Ole/Ralf season to what he did last year. Greenwood under the same circumstances would have truly flourished last season and we didn’t get to see that.
Watching him now you can see the same player is there, I think he just needs a long run of playing games which he’s currently getting. His stamina and sharpness still seem off but no surprises he’s getting stronger as the season goes on.
Watching him now you can see the same player is there, I think he just needs a long run of playing games which he’s currently getting. His stamina and sharpness still seem off but no surprises he’s getting stronger as the season goes on.
You’ve said on this very page he turned out to be not as good as we all hoped (this was stated as a separate point to him being a cnut and then doing what he did) - so I’ve assumed (perhaps wrongly) that you’ve based this on remembering that at 20 in your opinion he was going backwards - which even if he was out of form in a toxic chaotic team (I remember him being one of the few not totally shit) is no basis to judge his potential.
Which then also applies to you and most other people in here.
You could have all been bumping the other thread all along with the talk of bringing him back or "why is the other thread not being used!!!" sniping, and leaving this strictly for performance talk of which a few clearly just want.
I was actually specifically addressing my own hopes for him in response to one of my posts from his debut season turning up when someone went post mining. The hopes and expectations for him were sky high but ended up tempered by the subsequent seasons. Which you want to attribute to external factors but I think that Greenwood himself contributed to that failure to kick on from a fantastic debut season. I’’m not arguing that he went backwards, just that we saw sufficient evidence to doubt the incredibly high expectations a lot of fans had for him (myself included) The big red flag for me at the time was when I looked up some defensive stats and he was just as poor as Martial and Rashford, which is never a good look for a wide player. That and him blowing out his arse an hour into every match he started. Again, not a good look for any professional footballer. He may still turn out to be a very good player. I really don’t care how his career goes from here to be honest. I only got dragged into this poxy thread because I saw someone making over the top claims about him, which I happened to disagree with.
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If you have been frequently in this thread you'll see for yourself that most do stick to performance talk - until people come in on the windup and derail it.
On another note, why did you go to whataboutism if you agree with me?
Did a quick check and looks like your posts (and replies to them) are the only ones on the past few pages completely unrelated to his performances, past or present. Am I missing something here?
Greenwood's in better form than our current mediocrity but then again so is Anthony Elanga!
This thread is a good example of what would happen if Greenwood returns.
It's just a toxic mess and yes, I include
my own contributions into this conclusion. I have an agenda. It's an ethical one, too, am not ashamed of it. Many posters on here are exactly similar (though with other agendas). Let's not lie.
Either it cuts out any talk whatsoever about him returning or it will just continue as such. I'm okay with the latter.
This thread is a good example of what would happen if Greenwood returns.
It's just a toxic mess and yes, I include
my own contributions into this conclusion. I have an agenda. It's an ethical one, too, am not ashamed of it. Many posters on here are exactly similar (though with other agendas). Let's not lie.
Either it cuts out any talk whatsoever about him returning or it will just continue as such. I'm okay with the latter.
I make a point and instead of address it posters would rather double down - redcafe. Can't say I'm surprised you're one of them.
I posted on topic yesterday but don't let that stop you
He's class. Only about 80% fit too. If he gets this full season in his legs and rests up well over the summer he will kick on further next year. So productive after so long off, will be interesting to see if he is happy at Getafe or if he wants to join a bigger club in Barca, Atleti or Real. Why would you want to come back to England and/or a failing United?
He showed a lot of talent before the incident and he is slowly building it up again.
Hope that at the end of the season we will have him back, he want walk into our team now and probably anytime.
Hope that at the end of the season we will have him back, he want walk into our team now and probably anytime.
Don’t blame the club, this was a self made mess.
fact of the matter remains that he didn’t kick a ball for almost 2 years. He needed to go somewhere out of the PL to get back to fitness without the glare of the media
now let’s keep it on topic
Not of this wrong, but it doesn't negate that he was considered one of the best prospects in the world and in the history of United. This must be true if he was getting comparisons to Ronaldo and Rooney 3 years ago.
Erm, okay. You know that doesn't have anything to do with your initial post, right? You laughed at the idea that, at one point, he was considered one of the most talented talented young players in the world and to come from our academy in general, and there's evidence of you rating him as such yourself at one point. It doesn't matter if you changed your opinion in the future.
Why come into this thread then? Stop taking it off topic with these childish digs if you don't like those of us discussing his football career.
Not to me. I'd say the world would be a better place if Mason Greenwood's thoughts stayed a mystery.
And not to United if they don't want him back.
And I didn't say his thoughts didn't matter, just in the grand scheme of things, that what he thinks is not the most important unknown in the equation,
While he was great, he's not the first academy prospect compared to ex-greats.
The whole debacle, both him and our reaction is a stain on the club, and the frothing in this thread is a stain on the forum.
I’ve done some research and it turns out he’s still a gigantic piece of shit so therefore I’ve decided I don’t want him back.
I think that many footballers would fall under that category.
feck me. I know he’s scored 3 goals this season and all, but if you think Real Madrid will be sniffing around you might have a surprise in store.There is a thread for you to discuss the "frothing" and its not this one....
He's getting sharper and sharper, Getafe's goal now should be to try and get him in more goalscoring opportunities, although it will be difficult as he's probably also the only real creative player they have.
That makes feck all difference.
Atletico seems like the kind of club that would definitely be interested.
Harsh on Atletico. And more than a bit presumptuous.
Multiple news outlets have already stated that Real, Barca and Bayern are scouting him…
He’s an elite player with very rare footballing qualities.
If you think he won’t end up at another huge club I think it’s you who’ll end up surprised to be honest mate.
The famously reliable football media.
To each their own. The world is full of people who like to believe people can change and deserve second chances in life, and those of us that do on this forum are just here to discuss his football career. It's like when I go back to watch United games from the 60s to early 70s. I can appreciate George Best the player despite whatever controversies he had outside of the sport, and still love hearing about him from people who watched him live.
Having a second chance is not the same as having no consequences.
And he's still leading a very privileged life. That is a second chance. So we're all good on that count.
George Best lived in a time that tolerated violence against women, I'm glad that is changing, but as you say, to each their own.
I think a little context amid the sociopathic hero worship is important.
That is also true, but this is a little different than, say, a Macheda or Januzaj, as he was not only compared to greats but genuinely looked the part.
In fairness, he did.
This has been reported. There also have been posts made by Getafe fans that been posted here that say Real and Barca have had scouts at Getafe games tracking him.
Tbh I think at least some of the extremely vocal hyper positivity comes from posters that spend most of their posts on the forum being professional contrarians.
Maybe so.
And I'm sure everyone would love to hear your "context" in the other thread, as a staff member why don't you "encourage" discussion over there with the others who aren't interested in contributing regarding his performances, which to keep the thread on track have been increasingly better and better as well as the reactions from crowds towards him seeming to be less hostile.
You mentioned his potential in the context of the player we see now. How highly rated he was before this 18 months out of the game. You were trying to make the point that people were forgetting how good he was before he torpedoed his own career.
He is a technically very good player, I'm saying he didn't show creativity in his passing or dribbling on the pitch. His passing was always safe, his dribbling was safe and to keep possession... The only thing he did to a high level compared to others was get shots off.
These were his metrics in 20/21 compared to wingers:
- Key passes - 8th percentile
- Expected assists - 39th percentile
- Passes into final 3rd - 13th percentile
- Passes into box - 40th
- Crosses into box - 42nd
- Progressive passes - 26th
- Take ons attempted - 54th percentile (57th for successful percentage percentile)
- Progressive carries - 63rd
- Carries into box - 77th (good)
- Shots total - 92nd
- Non pen xg - 79th
Garnacho on the other hand plays like much more of a winger, carrying the ball, getting at players constantly, and it's reflected in the data being in the high 90s for these things.
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