The Cristiano Ronaldo that scored 42 goals that season and drove us to the league and CL double? Greenwood is a great talent but come on.
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He was playing as a RW without an actual striker in the middle, no one to play off.
Just struggle to understand the managers ideas. That being said hes very positive on the ball, always looking to attack and get shots off.
Just struggle to understand the managers ideas. That being said hes very positive on the ball, always looking to attack and get shots off.
God almighty, what complete and utter drivel. I love Greenwood but there's a looooong way to go before he can be considered as good as Ronaldo in his prime. Martial and Rashford are far better and more important to us right now.
His work ethics is the worst in the team. He just jogs about when he has to press or defends. I know he is very talented and young but work ethics is something he is the weakest.
Yeah. Our attackers were very outnumbered and isolated but he did well enough and looked sharp. Hes just playing far too deep and IMO each game he looks more and more like a natural striker playing out of position. Play him through the middle and let Rashford and Martial play on the wings.
He does not try enough when he does not have the ball. Ole needs to give him the hairdryer. There were instances when he could have blocked the back pass to the keeper when it was the only option available and it was Bruno who kept closing the keeper down and sprinting back to cover the outfield player while Greenwood just jogs around. We need to defend from the front and he is the worst of the lot in defending from the front. `He cannot expect to let him jog around until he gets the ball.
Great talent no doubt, technically very gifted and is sure to be some player in the years to come.
However as some have pointed out, his work ethic off the ball needs to improve.
I don't necessarily mean when we're not in possession as he'll usually put a shift in there, more so when supporting attacks.
Whether its getting used to playing wide (probably cutting him/our coaching staff too much slack here) or not I'm not sure but he is often laboured in his attempts to get into the box, much akin to Rashford.
I should caveat this, particularly yesterday, by saying this might be coached. Keep the width etc, particularly with AWB's limitations going forward?
I would be interested to get others opinions..
However as some have pointed out, his work ethic off the ball needs to improve.
I don't necessarily mean when we're not in possession as he'll usually put a shift in there, more so when supporting attacks.
Whether its getting used to playing wide (probably cutting him/our coaching staff too much slack here) or not I'm not sure but he is often laboured in his attempts to get into the box, much akin to Rashford.
I should caveat this, particularly yesterday, by saying this might be coached. Keep the width etc, particularly with AWB's limitations going forward?
I would be interested to get others opinions..
He should have stayed on instead of Rashford today. Neither did anything notable aside from Rashford having half chances and making them look like nothing was on or running himself, again, into a corner and losing possession. But Rashford was so wasteful and headless again.
Jesus, the cafe is so toxic these days it quite happily turns on a 19 year old kid. I personally thought he played well yesterday considering the total lack of support he was getting. Worked hard too from memory!
Indeed. We need to get him closer to the box. There was one little shimmy yesterday in the first half where he managed to get a shot away. It was blocked in the end but his work to get the shot away was great. That’s where we need him.
He could shoot, yeah, but when he isn't shooting, he doesn't offer much and disappears against any decent team.
Should be second choice at best, starting in the cup games and a few league games. We need a better option.
Should be second choice at best, starting in the cup games and a few league games. We need a better option.
It makes me think that these people are either teenagers themselves and haven't actually experienced a young footballer developing, or just massively reactionary people with short memories.
If anyone remembers Cristiano playing for us, he was inconsistent and constantly doing tricks that wouldn't work out.
I think this is Ronaldo’s ego speaking here.
These next 6-7 games are big for us. Should be much easier fixtures where we have more of the ball. Hopefully tactics reflect that and we can get an attacking front 6 where Greenwood can get on the ball more and hopefully get a few goals. Feeding off scraps really at the min and struggling to get overly involved. The Rashford-Martial-Greenwood trio that did so well last season hasn't got firing together
His age still shows a lot in his play, especially when he's involved in the build up further away from goal in games that are not very open. I lost count on how many times our attacks ended at his and Rashford's feet. Mason's exuberance sometimes has him often wanting to speed things up, and loses the ball when he should be a bit calmer. And at other times when he should play with more urgency, give the early pass or quick give and go, he takes too many touches and the opportunity fades. Like Rashford, he tends to also try the more difficult pass or move instead of a simple giveaway more times in a match than you'd want. Being the very good finisher we've all seen, I hope he still has the hunger to learn and appreciate the fluid system that Ole employs in attack, which puts a lot of demands on our attackers technically, to create as well as being able to score. At the moment, in games where we don't spend a lot of time near the opposition goal, he doesn't offer much apart from a threat to run in behind. That said, he remains a very exciting talent and his finishing ability means that he can change a game at any given moment when on the pitch
I think full backs have figured him out, and he's been shown to be less effective on the RW as of late because he's a natural striker. None of the strengths of his game are suited to playing out wide.
We need to buy a proper RW and start playing this guy as a CF. I've had enough of square pegs and round holes under Ole. He only needs half a chance in the box, let's get him in there more often.
We need to buy a proper RW and start playing this guy as a CF. I've had enough of square pegs and round holes under Ole. He only needs half a chance in the box, let's get him in there more often.
Hopefully he will fill his boots on Thursday.
I believe this is the case. Teams understand better now how to handle him.
Scenario 1
When he receive the ball with his backs on his markers, mark him tight close and tussle with him physically. He'll pass the ball back or lose.
Scenario 2
When he's on the ball facing us trying to shoot. Always have two defenders, one to block either sides.
Scenario 3
If he's shooting, pay special attention to his left. He favors his left foot best. High chance he's going to shoot with his left than right. Just get ready to block your right side to block his left foot shots.
Scenario 4
If he's on the ball facing defenders, far from the box and attempting to dribble, don't get close else he'll use his skill to get past by you. So give him space,simply mark his surrounding options and just defend the spaces he's going to move into. He's not a top dribbler. Do this and good chances you'll stop his progress and he'll simply pass the ball to his teammates.
It's getting repetitive seeing all those. It reminds me of how Tony Valencia is getting found out. It is then like clockworks seeing this in motion repeatedly, of course there are the rare moments he beat their defenses either by chances due to lapses of concentration in defense or top form.
One thing for sure, the little chances Greenwood gets when given freely, he is going to take it ruthlessly and high chances he will score
love it.Crazy some of the criticism going on in here, this guy is a rough diamond. It should be clear now though that his best role going forward is a straight out no9. For both his and the teams benefit we should really let him develop in that role and stop asking him to play our wide, it just doesn’t suit him.
When he fills out a bit physically, he could be a phenomenal striker.
When he fills out a bit physically, he could be a phenomenal striker.
He must be very easy to play against. Just don't let him get in a position to shoot with a clear sight at goal, and you get to play against a ghost. 11v10
He’s 19. He is learning. He will frustrate. He will learn. He will get better.
That’s all there is to it really.
That’s all there is to it really.
On the wing that seems to be the case as of late. He cuts in and he's crowded out.
His biggest attribute is his finishing, so we probably need to give him a run down the middle. He can get into goalscoring positions without having to work towards them, like he has to do from the flanks.
I just want him to get the ball all the time. You just feel something will happen. Unfortunately, as of late he hasn't had the ball as often as I would like.
He plays it incredibly safe when he gets it on the wing. Always passes the safe pass, even though he used to be able/allowed to dribble in the youth ranks.
Seems like he's restricted to only taking on players when receiving the ball inside the box or something. He's dangerous when that happens though.
Doesnt seem to have his shooting boots on from last season, where most times if he had the ball on the left foot and a sight on goal, it usually ended up in the back of the net. This season, same scenario, its either a tame shot or straight at the keeper. Don't know if its a confidence thing. He also seems to have lost some muscle and is easily bullied off the ball.
he's young, a teenager, barely had one full season under his belt and 'fans' are turning on him already?
He's a developing player! he's developing as a young human being as well!
of course he's going to be inconsistent. patience FFS
he fecking 19 yrs old!
And you got on the other hand Pogba (5 seasons) and Martial (6 seasons). They have been here for ages and still their fanboys convinced they'll be world class for us
They keep coming up with the same excuses after year after year of lazyperformances from them.
seriously starting to believe this is an anti-english thing...
He's a developing player! he's developing as a young human being as well!
of course he's going to be inconsistent. patience FFS
he fecking 19 yrs old!
And you got on the other hand Pogba (5 seasons) and Martial (6 seasons). They have been here for ages and still their fanboys convinced they'll be world class for us
They keep coming up with the same excuses after year after year of lazyperformances from them.seriously starting to believe this is an anti-english thing...
Sheffield Utd 2:3 Man Utd
Becoming really one dimensional with his shooting at every opportunity. Stop being so greedy...
Average game and was very predictable tonight, always taking on a shot which hit the defenders
"Hey look Mason, those are your teammates"
He isn't RW. He should play SF. Bring Sancho.
Thought he was poor, which is to be expected for someone's who's so young. His main issue is he needs to get his head up, all he does when near the box is shoot.
If we had a genuine RW I think we could properly challenge for the title.
If we had a genuine RW I think we could properly challenge for the title.
Diallo is coming...
Hes gone back to looking like a kid who is getting his first chances in the first team.
One decent right foot shot from an angle that was saved. Quiet match. I thought his lack of work-rate hurt us in the early stages.
He’s tidy out wide but you lose what he’s good at. Put him through the middle and just watch the goals go in.
In January?
Yes!
Unfortunately, I agree. He's regressed this season, but I do realise that we must be careful not to get on his back too much due to how young he is. He does need managing and coaching. But, I thought he was so replaceable tonight. If this was Dan James performing, I don't think the fans would be as kind. Needs some good leaders around him to show him what he should be doing.
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