Rashford has been criticised about this before as well. Greenwood today choose the wrong option multiple time and didn't contribute in defense. This can only be excused if you are Ronaldo, not some 19 year old who isn't regular.
Mason and Marcus's selfishness
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No he didn’t choose the wrong options multiple times. If Ronaldo made the wrong decisions multiple times we wouldn’t excuse it, what a load of rubbish that is.
He does it every game multiple times. Do you want a compilation video?
Yes. Though it better not just be instances where he shoots and it doesn’t go in, because that doesn’t make it the wrong decision.
It’s across all of the attacking players, Pogba and Bruno always go for the clever pass rather than the simple one, we have to take risks in the final 3rd.
Rashford hasn't even played a minute this season yet he's getting dragged into this 
Mason hasn't been guilty of this much before today, and has a good record so far, so I can give him time before getting on his back.
Rashford on the other hand....
Rashford on the other hand....
It's not load of rubbish. I am not arsed enough to watch that rubbish match to point out but Greenwood had multiple chance to pass but he always did one extra dribble to make the chance for himself which he couldn't. For Ronaldo it can be excused, since he has scored 800+ goals and probably will get it right in the game but not from some teenager not passing to Ronaldo of all people. Plus his tracking back was atrocious and his pressing was worse than Ronaldo.
Don't see the problem with Greenwood. He had a braindead moment with Bruno today which should've been an opener and possibly game setter but overall he mixes it well imo.
Seems to be that every time you have a shot and it doesn’t go in you should’ve passed according to some of these lot. Taking a man on and shooting has become taboo apparently.
Mason can do whatever he wants on the football pitch. He is one of the most talented and dangerous footballers in our team - even with Ronaldo, Bruno, Pogba, Cavani, Sanch and Rashford all on at the same time.
If he wants to dribble past 4 players and have a go at goal - sit down and watch him.
He is that good. Let that boy grow.
We let Ronaldo do it when he was 19-22. Greenwood scores more than Ronaldo at that age.
If he wants to dribble past 4 players and have a go at goal - sit down and watch him.
He is that good. Let that boy grow.
We let Ronaldo do it when he was 19-22. Greenwood scores more than Ronaldo at that age.
Yeah, they have to be sure of their quality and take shots. He probably knows he's the most accurate in the team with them and he's already saved us a few times in his young career.
The only moment they shouldn't take a pop is when a teammate is in a much much better position ready to pull the trigger and that was the case with Bruno so I'll give that.
How can Greenwood be compared to Rashford in this regard. Greenwood is normally very aware of others around him and often has his head up looking for the pass. Today was just a one off.
Rashford on the other hand has tunnel vision and only sees the goal. Extremely greedy player, thinks he's prime Ronaldo but will surely have to adapt now as the real Ronaldo is top dog.
Rashford on the other hand has tunnel vision and only sees the goal. Extremely greedy player, thinks he's prime Ronaldo but will surely have to adapt now as the real Ronaldo is top dog.
Rashford can be accused of “selfishness” for delaying his surgery until after the Euros, but having a go at him on a new knee jerk thread before he’s even played one minute this season is taking bonkers to a whole new level.
Has Greenwood even turned 20 yet?
Has Greenwood even turned 20 yet?
The Ronaldo no pass incident was more on Ronaldo being the lazy fecker than Greenwood's selfishness for me.
…got nine assists last season.
When a thread starts with "this is not a knee jerk".....then proceeds to knee jerk the shit out of it
Seriously this place!Rashford hasn't even played a minute this season yet he's getting dragged into this
Get bent ya clown.Rashy hasn’t even played yet .
Yup. Great run and the cut inside beat his man to open up a clear shot at goal.
Greenwood's selfishness is something that's being made up based on one game. Look forward to Bruno and Ronaldo's selfishness threads soon.
Rashford does get tunnel vision but Greenwood is pretty sorted in this regard. Besides his shooting is incredible so no wonder he backs himself.
Rashford is injured yet he has a thread with people complaining about him. Yes he was selfish last year, but at least let the guys come back before you pound on him. Greenwood is 19, showing hunger to score more, yes he probably should have passed to Ronaldo a couple of times, kids need to do this stuff. In general, Greenwood is a great team player, maybe yesterday he thought he could have bagged a few? Not really a crime? What is the purpose of this thread? Seems like a knee jerk reaction.
Yes please, and while you are at it, can you do one for the following; bruno, ronaldo, mbappe, sterling, kane, salah (this one will be interesting), mane, lukaku, i can probably go on? Your point is silly, football is based on adrenaline. You dribble past 3 or 4, see a gap, your a striker, you shoot. If he didnt have that instinct or confidence, I'd be worried. Hes in the top players for most goals by a teenager in the prem, im sure he will be fine after your compliation video. Id also perhaps suggest getting out there yourself, playing football, put yourself in the same situation, you may realise footballers are not robots and do not need to be told 100% of the time, what to do. Greenwood, for a 19 year old, is a really good team player, he will get miles better with age and decisions and composure, come with maturity.
I felt Bruno was just in a marginally better position himself. Greenwood has every right to have a go from there, and you just know Bruno himself, and Ronaldo would do the exact same in his shoes. I could also tell that he was doing it deliberately as he never apologized or even acknowledged their complaints on the other occasions when he could have passed to them. Early days, but this might be him passing on a signal that he means business too and i'm fine with that.
He should have passed on every one of these.
For the goals against Leeds and Wolves, especially, there were players in better positions than him in the middle.
Even the goal that Ronaldo scored against Newcastle off Greenwood's ricochet, it would have been better if he'd passed the ball backwards to somebody in more space.
Mason is a striker, any striker worth their salt would shoot in that situation, and getting into it in the first place allows them to try. A selfish striker is not a terrible thing.
Marcus is more worrying because to me it looks like he doesn't see the pass in the first place.
Marcus is more worrying because to me it looks like he doesn't see the pass in the first place.
Maybe players are deciding to take matters into their own hands?
I could actually understand why he took the shot instead of passing to Bruno for easy tap in, most confident striker would do the same.
But what frustrated me most is during 2nd half, when he keep on wasting chances after chances after chances, shooting at difficult/impossible angle, while his teammates are standing inside the box waiting for his cross. At least if he feck up once or twice, he should learn to give it to other to have a go in the next try. But no, he keep on shooting and shooting at difficult angle and refusing to pass to anyone inside the box.
But what frustrated me most is during 2nd half, when he keep on wasting chances after chances after chances, shooting at difficult/impossible angle, while his teammates are standing inside the box waiting for his cross. At least if he feck up once or twice, he should learn to give it to other to have a go in the next try. But no, he keep on shooting and shooting at difficult angle and refusing to pass to anyone inside the box.
No issue with Greenwood at all. Rashford’s 2021 album ‘Where attacks go to die’ wasn’t a favourite. There’s a difference between the expected (and desired) selfishness of a striker and a player who plays like unless they can shoot there’s no point to a move
Speculative shots at goal are fine. It’s the whole ‘I’ll keep hold of the ball until I can see a chance to shoot but if I can’t I’ll just allow the play to break down’ which typified how Rashford played for much of the last 12 months.
Speculative shots at goal are fine. It’s the whole ‘I’ll keep hold of the ball until I can see a chance to shoot but if I can’t I’ll just allow the play to break down’ which typified how Rashford played for much of the last 12 months.
Don't shit on Rashford because Greenwood had a bad game
His name is literally in the thread title
And a lot of them were absolutely quality crosses.
But nah, if he can't shoot he just starts playing for the other team.
Judging by some of our woeful shooting,it must an instruction from the coaches to shoot within sight of goal regardless.
Its happen to every young attacker, its look like he is trying to hard.
He need to cool down little bit.
He need to cool down little bit.
And few brilliant passes to Shaw when he made overlapping runs.
Greenwood's performance was a bit like a teenage Ronaldo's, albeit with fewer tricks. Ronnie would try to dazzle everytime he got the ball and half the time ended up losing it. I'm sure Ronaldo felt a bit like Ruud Van Nistelrooy would have back in the mid-2000s.
Coaches can’t make that happen 100%, it’s intuitive and players need to read the situation. They can tell players to keep their heads up and maybe they have done… how do we know what the coaches have said to him?
Now can we talk about glaring deficiency in Greenwood and Rashford’s decision making? How can our coaches not teach them when to pass and when to shoot?
Greenwood has cut inside and buried it in the corner plenty of times, Saturday he didn’t (his first two chances were surprisingly tame shots).
As for anyone saying he should have passed it for a Bruno tap-in, their definition of a tap-in differs greatly from mine. It’s not like Martinez was five yards wide of his post… Bruno would have had a good chance yes. Open goal. No.
As for Rashford, I think he has looked a little blinkered and running into players in the last season. Maybe injury impacted. Rather than make a thread (which is titled as about two players but is just another Ole thread really), I’ll wait until he actually comes back from injury. I know, mental right?
Yes, show us a video of multiple times v Villa. I was there, maybe I missed them
Kneejerk reaction
Worst thread I’ve seen in a long time. Selfish players get away with it for a game or so...then their wings are clipped. You don’t play for one of the most visible and scrutinised team on the planet and “get away” with being selfish and not being team players or being glory hunters.
This is not Rashford or Greenwood. Kids raised in an academy famed for raising good human beings and not just footballers as evidenced by every single interview on the subject by every player who has come through the academy.
What you are confused about is that Rashford and Greenwood are following instructions. They are being told to “take responsibility” to “make the difference”...and when they do...it’s the United way “bravery, risk, endeavour”. How can you seriously think these two are some kind of loose cannons and are just continuously getting away with it?
Very poor thread.
This is not Rashford or Greenwood. Kids raised in an academy famed for raising good human beings and not just footballers as evidenced by every single interview on the subject by every player who has come through the academy.
What you are confused about is that Rashford and Greenwood are following instructions. They are being told to “take responsibility” to “make the difference”...and when they do...it’s the United way “bravery, risk, endeavour”. How can you seriously think these two are some kind of loose cannons and are just continuously getting away with it?
Very poor thread.
Selfish one might even say