cyberman
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You can see him down the pub with his twattish mates boasting that those diving fairies wont con a pen off him.
That was ridiculous today
That was ridiculous today
I can't see him having mates at all...You can see him down the pub with his twattish mates boasting that those diving fairies wont con a pen off him.
That was ridiculous today
ThisTerrible ref... Two clear pens not given.. Just awful.
Nobody else think we should have had a penalty second half when Mata was fouled? If it wasn't a foul, then we should've had a corner, yet the complete tit gave a goal kick! Utter cock.
Don't really think that was a red. It's not excessive force or intentional, just clumsy. That being said I'd prefer it if he was sent off and missed three games (despite being man of the match obviously!).Not sending off Rooney at the death will probably be more a hindrance to United than if he'd have had a 3 match ban.
Yeah, it was obviously a pen, but I can understand Atkinson missing it, I think it was difficult to spot. But Willian's handball was shocking by him.Nobody else think we should have had a penalty second half when Mata was fouled? If it wasn't a foul, then we should've had a corner, yet the complete tit gave a goal kick! Utter cock.
Yeah, and this isn't a pen neither:I'm not saying he's not a shite ref, but if that had been the other way around and he'd have given Chelsea a penalty for that handball, I'd have been well fecked off.
It didn't influence play at all and was clearly accidental.
Don't really think that was a red. It's not excessive force or intentional, just clumsy. That being said I'd prefer it if he was sent off and missed three games (despite being man of the match obviously!).
Yeah, it was obviously a pen, but I can understand Atkinson missing it, I think it was difficult to spot. But Willian's handball was shocking by him.
Spot on.Incredible how this piece of shit gets to ref Chelsea matches. Two or three pens today and not sending Rooney off, we've been robbed from 3 to 4 times today ffs. Not to mention that he didn't let the game flow at all, every single fecking tackle there was he whistled it.
The Manchester United manager claimed that it was the third consecutive time that refereeing decisions had cost his team against Chelsea and, in remarks that will be closely scrutinised by the Football Association, he criticised Atkinson’s selection for the game.
“You hope you get a really strong referee in games like this,” he said. “It was a major game for both clubs and you want a fair referee. You want a strong referee anyway and we didn’t get that.
“I don’t know why he’s got the game. I must say that when I saw who was refereeing it, I feared the worst.”
Ferguson was previously charged with improper conduct for criticising Atkinson and Keith Hackett, the Premier League head of referees at the time, after United lost 1-0 to Portsmouth in an FA Cup quarter-final in 2008.
He was also unhappy when Atkinson awarded a free-kick against Darren Fletcher at Stamford Bridge last season that led to Chelsea’s winner and ultimately cost his team the Premier League title. Atkinson has now refereed 12 games at Stamford Bridge, with Chelsea winning 11 times and drawing once.
Ferguson’s grievance centred on Luiz. After scoring a spectacular equaliser, Chelsea’s new £25 million centre-back escaped a booking for a late challenge on Javier Hernandez. He was then cautioned for a tackle on Wayne Rooney and, shortly before Chelsea’s winner, avoided a second yellow card for blocking the England striker.
“It’s hard to take - we didn’t deserve that,” said Ferguson. “That’s three years in a row where the referee’s decisions have changed the game.
“He [Luiz] has done Rooney, clear as day, and he [Atkinson] is six yards from him. Straight in front of him, no obstruction whatsoever.
Doesn’t do anything. It was incredible. Even before that, he [Luiz] had done Chicarito off the ball. He’d done him late. Nothing’s done and the referee’s in front of it. I don’t know how he’s on the pitch.That changes the game in the second half. These decisions change the game, and he’s going to be refereeing every week.”
Ferguson also criticised the decision to award Chelsea’s match-winning penalty for Chris Smalling’s tackle on Yuri Zhirkov.
“The penalty was so soft, deary, deary me,” he said. “Chris has taken the ball and the player’s left his leg in. Very, very soft. Amazing.”
Manchester United had Nemanja Vidic sent off in injury time for a second booking and he will now miss Sunday’s Premier League match against Liverpool. Ferguson confirmed that Rio Ferdinand was unlikely to be fit for that game, meaning that Wes Brown is likely to partner Smalling at centre-back.
Of Chelsea’s chances of still challenging for the Premier League, Ferguson added: “If they keep getting decisions like tonight, it could change everything.”
Ferguson’s outrage at Tuesday night's refereeing follows Mark Clattenburg’s controversial decision not to retrospectively punish Rooney after the win against Wigan on Saturday. “Mark Clattenburg is the only person who comes out of this incident with any credit at all,” said Ferguson.
Yeah, and this isn't a pen neither:
I actually missed your second argument, so fair enough. I only replied to the "it didn't influence play" part - it's not really relevant. But is it accidental? It's hand to ball, and the entire situation is caused by himself, it's not a ball kicked into his hand. Can't agree with you that it's not a foul.That clip is is almost exactly the same as what happened today. Great example, I stand corrected.
No, you don't, but it would help make the decision easier. As it is I think you could defend both a sending off and a booking.I don't think you only need to have these 2 conditions for it to be possibly a red card.
I actually missed your second argument, so fair enough. I only replied to the "it didn't influence play" part - it's not really relevant. But is it accidental? It's hand to ball, and the entire situation is caused by himself, it's not a ball kicked into his hand. Can't agree with you that it's not a foul.
I actually missed your second argument, so fair enough. I only replied to the "it didn't influence play" part - it's not really relevant. But is it accidental? It's hand to ball, and the entire situation is caused by himself, it's not a ball kicked into his hand. Can't agree with you that it's not a foul.
No, you don't, but it would help make the decision easier. As it is I think you could defend both a sending off and a booking.
Clattenburg (and Oliver, but he's not going) is way better imo.And just think, he's going to Euro 2016 as our best ref...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...artin-Atkinson-in-wake-of-Chelsea-defeat.html
Just to remind some people of some of his previous in this fixture.
Is Fergie slating him meant to prove anything? Part of Ferguson's management was to slate any referee that didn't give a decision United's way to put pressure on them for next time.
From what I seen, the only major decision Atkinson got wrong was not sending off Rooney. The handball was really clutching at straws - it was clearly accidental. Nobody was even near Willian ffs.
It reminds us of Atkinson's past errors.
Some might say errors, some might not. But Ferguson slating a referee is not proof of anything conclusive, in fairness.
Weirdly biased take.Willian's handball was the only possible penalty he could have reasonably given in the game, and it was hardly as if there were any United players around him so he was probably right to give him the benefit of the doubt. As for the Mata appeal, Ashley Young was the nearest player and his only intention was to appeal for a corner which tells you all you need to know. Blaming Atkinson for today's result is just weird, he had so few big decisions to make, and he bottled the most obvious one in United's favour.