Martin Ødegaard
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Mata, Soldado, Atletico's Juanfran for example, plus loads of pro players like Casilla and Morata.
In terms of the latest crop, Morata got 34 appearances last year but decided to move to Juve, Jese had 30 before getting injured and is just starting to play again.
Is it a good place to go at 16? Probably not. Is it a bad one? No. Whatever happens he'll learn a lot.
Well too bad we didn't get him he seemed like an extraordinary talent. Even if he doesn't make it at Real, the boy is 16 and if he decieds after 3 years he doesn't get enough chances with them he still is only 19 and has a whole career ahead of him and training every day with players like CR, Kroos, James, Bale and Modric surely isn't the worst that could happen to the development of a 16 year old.
Perica Ognjenović to Real Madrid, Dragan Ćirić to Barcelona, Ivan Tomić to Roma.
Every single one of them great talent from Serbia, every single one of them failed. Perica Ognjenović is the epitome of youngster failing at big club.
Anyways, I can't see any sane reason for Ødegaard joining Real, was there any real world class player after Raul from their academy to break through and become a club legend? And even Raul and few others from that time came in the time when Barcelona dominated and Real was in a crisis...
I don't get this argument at all about these Real Madrid academy graduates who have gone on to do well otherwise. Surely the whole point of Odegaard going to Real Madrid is so that he will play for them one day (and not just a token game here and there)? His chances of doing that are pretty slim by joining them at a young age. He would have been far better off joining Ajax where he could have been a regular in the first team within 12 months and moved on after a few seasons. They have a reputation for producing fantastic players and his footballing education there would have been second to none. Going to Real Madrid at 16 is mindbogglingly stupid. Him and his father have clearly had their head turned by the money and prestige on offer. They even offered the dad a coaching job at the club! 
As for academy graduates like Mata, Soldado (in Spain) and Lopez having successful careers elsewhere I actually think that's an indictment of their academy. Maybe the success these players have enjoyed is more down to their own talent rather than what they learned in Real Madrid's academy. It just shows that it is so hard to make it there that these players had to leave without even getting a look in. Even Varane (who was brought in for a few million) has been limited in his playing time despite the fact he is the best young defender in the world and would walk into any other team. What chance does a 16 year old have? A squad number and job offer seems to have swayed them. How gullible can you get?!
As for academy graduates like Mata, Soldado (in Spain) and Lopez having successful careers elsewhere I actually think that's an indictment of their academy. Maybe the success these players have enjoyed is more down to their own talent rather than what they learned in Real Madrid's academy. It just shows that it is so hard to make it there that these players had to leave without even getting a look in. Even Varane (who was brought in for a few million) has been limited in his playing time despite the fact he is the best young defender in the world and would walk into any other team. What chance does a 16 year old have? A squad number and job offer seems to have swayed them. How gullible can you get?!
Just read he'll receive yearly wages of 2,25 million euro, not bad for a 16-year old. Hopefully this will not destroy his career, like so many before him. Hitting puberty, leaving home, inmense pressure of being the most talented player of your age, too much money to spend. Wouldn't be the first that wouldn't be able to handle it.
We were talking about the poster, not the player.
Ah, makes sense then.
He'd have a better chance with you than with Real, sure. Real are the worst when it comes to what he could have picked. The reason I said he shouldnt move to either clubs are different. Real wont give him a chance simply because they dont have the patience. In your case, you just have too much quality in attack for him to get a look in anytime soon. He'd probably spend 5yrs at other clubs on loans which I doubt is his plan.
After looking like he's carfeully considered all options with his father he goes to choose Madrid Not saying it's a bad choice as it could very well turn out good but I thought he would have chosen a club like Ajax to get playing time at the top level.
Not saying it's a bad choice as it could very well turn out good but I thought he would have chosen a club like Ajax to get playing time at the top level.Insane if true that his wages will almost be level with Isco. He is only 16! Can't see Isco being very happy about that.
He walked away.We (Bayern) would have never given Pogba away
Those names don't excactly rock my boat !
I wonder if this guy is not just the white Freddy Adu.
Let's first look what Christian Streich can make out of Mats Moller Daehlie
I really hope he proves the majority of this thread wrong.
Erm hummelsWe (Bayern) would have never given Pogba away
Really wish that this guy would just sign with someone already. Seems every week he is about to sign with some club.
Just what I was thinking. Rewind back 10 years or so, and the hype for Adu was similar.
Touché
I wish him all the best in Madrid. He really is special, so I think he will make it big. In a few years his one of the best.
There are some differences... The hype with Adu started before he ever played senior football, and when he did it was for the illustrous DC United. Ødegaard's been on tour and has reportedly not looked out of place at the Liverpool training, as well as at Real Madrid. Not to mention that he's played for the NT and looked quite good as well.
Whatever happens, the lad'll make way more of himself than Adu ever did. He already has, tbh.
Is Streich any good? Don't think about Dæhli btw, he's ours.Let's first look what Christian Streich can make out of Mats Moller Daehlie
good manager but way too whiny. Freiburg/Streich should be almost perfect for someone like Dæhli.Is Streich any good? Don't think about Dæhli btw, he's ours.
Yep. Its totally unnecessary and not good for the kid.
It's official...he's an idiot.
How much is Isco on?
What are the odds that he'll vanish into the footballing abyss within 2 years? Madrid was a horrible choice for a 16 year old. Unless he makes an instant impact, and I'm talking Messi-esque for Barcelona, he won't play much at all.
He's just a kid. But yes he's being advised by idiots
It's a bad deal if he doesn't get the proper loans. Given his current age and experience he'd best suited to be loaned to either the Belgian or Dutch League where a good portion of the players are 16-22. Then after a year there they could evalaute his progress and see if he's ready to move up to French/German/Italian leagues or even perhaps relegation fodder sides in La Liga or the PL.
He's gonna get a shock when he's not even close to the Madrid first team until he's 19/20.
Call me cynical but id not be surprised if thats the last we really hear of him. He could hardly have picked a worse club for his development.
At least his dad got a job out of it though.
At least his dad got a job out of it though.
I would have loved us to buy him.
If he's good enough he'll get his chance.
Didn't you give away Hummels?We (Bayern) would have never given Pogba away
Eventually. Alternatively he could have signed for a club that gives 17 year olds a chance to play regular first team football.
He might have gone to a club that is notorious for being almost impossible to break through as a youngster but at least they have a manager in place who thrives on giving youth it's chance.
At AC Milan he gave loads of chances to those coming up through the u31s and even gave some chances to some of the U29s and u27s.
At AC Milan he gave loads of chances to those coming up through the u31s and even gave some chances to some of the U29s and u27s.
But we had Badstuber...
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