Martial / joined Sevilla on loan

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Jireh said:
Possibly he is supposed to show up in a cream suit for his interview.

The psychology of hate dictates that your lack of compassion proves your hatred, because the antidote to hate is compassion.

Your interactions continue to just reinforce EDD (empathy deficit disorder) with these evident symptoms:-
- quick to criticise or dismiss individuals
- struggle to show appreciation towards others
- possess a strong sense of entitlement and expectation
- lack of understanding that others who feel hurt aren’t the cause of their own pain

Let's remain reasonable and understanding as we support all players.
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Your posts are getting more absurd in attempt to absolve a man from any form of responsibility for wearing a cream suit on a rainy/muddy day. I mean, come the feck on…

If you think there is any hate in the criticism aimed at Martial it’s because you’re so entrenched in your own belief that literally everyone around him, from the pavement to the sky is a dickhead and he’s blameless. Little hint for you, statistically impossible for everyone else to be at fault and not the man who is in control of his own life.
 
Isotope said:
was I? I merely stated his wages from that twitter. I answered it before, didn't I? :lol:

C'mon man. Just go annoy someone else, or find something else to talk about.
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Isotope said:
so Martial is on 300k/week eh??
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I thought you told me I was right about you being surprised on Martial wages. Not sure what were you referring to then. Apologise, I didn't mean to be annoying, I was just curious from your initial comment on Martial wages.

So for future reference that I won't misunderstood posters again, can you please tell me why did you say ''eh??'' ?
 
crossy1686 said:
Your posts are getting more absurd in attempt to absolve a man from any form of responsibility for wearing a cream suit on a rainy/muddy day. I mean, come the feck on…

If you think there is any hate in the criticism aimed at Martial it’s because you’re so entrenched in your own belief that literally everyone around him, from the pavement to the sky is a dickhead and he’s blameless. Little hint for you, statistically impossible for everyone else to be at fault and not the man who is in control of his own life.
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The parable was for you - a mirror to help you see yourself for who you are.

It is ok to criticize all players. My cry here is that we do it in a reasonable way - more so out of love not out of hate.
 
Just read the MEN article above - it has a reporting on his salary that I believe to be more accurate. (Can't quote media, so I had to write this out)

The Manchester Evening News understands Sevilla offered to pay half of Martial's £150,000 weekly wages and United would only allow him to join a club that pays a loan fee and covers Martial's wages in full.
 
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What has happened to him? He looked so good when he first burst onto the scene, and first moved to United.

On paper a young(er) attacking core of Sancho, Greenwood, Rashford and Martial is amazing.
 
cesc's_mullet said:
What has happened to him? He looked so good when he first burst onto the scene, and first moved to United.

On paper a young(er) attacking core of Sancho, Greenwood, Rashford and Martial is amazing.
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Yeah it's worrying. Every young player who looks good at first eventually regressed and becomes part of the problem at this club. Who knows why.
 
golden_blunder said:
Looks like arsenal need a new striker. Would be a good fit there
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I'd take him for sure, I've always rated his talents. Add him to ESR, Saka, Martinelli and Ø and we are looking exciting.

You can even have Soares, El Neny and/or Mari in return. Christ, it's nearly 2022 and El-farqing-Neny is still at the club.
 
It will be difficult for him to leave in January, especially to Sevilla. The club want a fee, which I get, it’s in the best interests of the club to reinvest money into the team, but I doubt we will find a buyer in Jan. Sevilla see this as an opportunity to get a really good player on the cheap for the rest of the season so I don’t think they will go out of their way to stump up a huge transfer fee + wages.
 
I’m so happy the club are playing hard ball and demanding a fee or obligation to buy.
 
AbusementPark said:
I’m so happy the club are playing hard ball and demanding a fee or obligation to buy.
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Well, I think it's one of those situations where if it works it works and things are great. If we manage to get a better offer.

But if we are just saddled with a bloke we don't play and then it comes to the summer and we've had no opportunity to make him desirable to other teams then we stand to lose a lot more than half his wages.
 
DOTA said:
We're asking a hell of a lot. Would be pretty alarmed if I was a supporter of a team who was willing to loan him under those conditions.
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This isn’t a case where we are asking the other side to pay his wage… we are floof this so he lowers his wage.

Martial and his agent are fecking stupid. They want out because it’s a World Cup year and United know they’re stuck between a rock and a hard place in terms of wanting that United money and playing time.
 
mariachi-19 said:
This isn’t a case where we are asking the other side to pay his wage… we are floof this so he lowers his wage.

Martial and his agent are fecking stupid. They want out because it’s a World Cup year and United know they’re stuck between a rock and a hard place in terms of wanting that United money and playing time.
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It's not a win situation for United also when keeping him. Paying full wage on non-usable unmotivated player. It's lessening his value too, if United decide to sell him.
 
Same old story with us. The hierarchy just don’t know when to cut their losses and can’t accept they have made a mistake in over paying him. They over rate all of our players.

let him leave on loan even if only half his wages are covered, he may revitalise his career which would then increase his price and make him more sellable. Surely we can’t have another situation where he stays with us on the bench like Lingaard just wasting away.
 
crossy1686 said:
This approach only works if we're selling players we don't really want to sell.
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Maybe the club know he doesn’t have the best attitude and going by his performances it seems that way. They send him on loan for half his wages and Sevilla work this out as well and his value drops. The rest of the interested teams look at it and decide against it and we get lumbered with him for a few more years running down his contract. I’d rather they try and get a fee now for him and cut all ties completely.
 
I am not surprised Tony M wants to leave - he's been crap for about two years now but then so have Rashford, Maguire, Shaw, Lindelof, Matic and Wan Bisakka but they don't get shunted out to the fringes.
 
DOTA said:
We're asking a hell of a lot. Would be pretty alarmed if I was a supporter of a team who was willing to loan him under those conditions.
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He is our player, we haven't put him on the shop window so we are right to demand a hell lot. They can do one if they don't want to pay for his services.
 
padzilla said:
I am not surprised Tony M wants to leave - he's been crap for about two years now but then so have Rashford, Maguire, Shaw, Lindelof, Matic and Wan Bisakka but they don't get shunted out to the fringes.
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Shaw does not belong on that list...
 
Bobade said:
Shaw does not belong on that list...
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Yeah that's fair, it's only been the last year he has been awful. It's hard to believe this time 12 months ago we were top of the league and immediately seemed to turn to shite and have been collectively dire ever since.
 
KennyBurner said:
We better not sell him to Arsenal. We won’t finish ahead of them if so.
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If Arsenal offer even 15 or 10m, i'd sell him. He's wont turn like RVP situation. If Martial go to Arsenal they will have the same problem like us with him. Doubt he will turn into a world beater just because he changes club tbh.
 
vangagal said:
If Arsenal offer even 15 or 10m, i'd sell him. He's wont turn like RVP situation. If Martial go to Arsenal they will have the same problem like us with him. Doubt he will turn into a world beater just because he changes club tbh.
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I'd be delighted if one of our rivals swoop in for him.
 
Guys, this is United post SAF. Selling Martial to Arsenal will more than likely backfire. :nervous:
 
padzilla said:
I am not surprised Tony M wants to leave - he's been crap for about two years now but then so have Rashford, Maguire, Shaw, Lindelof, Matic and Wan Bisakka but they don't get shunted out to the fringes.
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Shaw was our player of the month 3 months of the 18/19 season and won our player of the year award that season and last season and followed it up with a great Euros. He’s been a bit rubbish so far this season, but to suggest he’s been crap for two years is just clearly wrong.
 
padzilla said:
I am not surprised Tony M wants to leave - he's been crap for about two years now but then so have Rashford, Maguire, Shaw, Lindelof, Matic and Wan Bisakka but they don't get shunted out to the fringes.
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Pretty much agree (less Shaw). Martial simply has the worst PR of the lot so he’s the first on the chopping block.
 
ATXRedDevil said:
Shaw was our player of the month 3 months of the 18/19 season and won our player of the year award that season and last season and followed it up with a great Euros. He’s been a bit rubbish so far this season, but to suggest he’s been crap for two years is just clearly wrong.
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Its bizarre, isn't it.
 
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