Martial exit?

[Abraxas]

I thought Mourinho treated Martial and Shaw attrociously.

Even if he did, so what? That's football. You're going to have fall outs and managers that don't like you in football. Happens for most players at some stage especially at the sharp end of football. The best thing you can do is outlast them which isn't hard as a player. The players you highlight show where the responsibility really is. Shaw took his game on and showed character and Martial did not.

There's a bit of bad luck involved with injuries for sure because they broke up his development a bit but 90% of why he's not worked out is because of him and his commitment.

 

[RuudTom83]

Like Martial I don't think this story/deal has any legs.

I think Saudi won't want to pay a transfer fee or very little and it leaves United even more short up front. Plus Martial is 27 not 32.

 

[Hammondo]

Sort of a ridiculous post when he's playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world.

The Saudi operation is all about propaganda of taking players from footballing giants.

I mean do you think anyone is excited at a 33 year old Hendo?

Not really playing much.

 

[Cassidy]

Like Martial I don't think this story/deal has any legs.

I think Saudi won't want to pay a transfer fee or very little and it leaves United even more short up front. Plus Martial is 27 not 32.

I think we want to sign Hoijlund and another attacker/forward. Also after this season Martial is going to struggle to get a decent contract anywhere, I can see him taking the Saudi option.

 

[croadyman]

Like Martial I don't think this story/deal has any legs.

I think Saudi won't want to pay a transfer fee or very little and it leaves United even more short up front. Plus Martial is 27 not 32.

Yeah it's very telling that no team is mentioned

 

[Redcy]

Who do we play striker for the 60 odd games next season? Martial still played 29 games last season despite all his injuries. Lack of striker depth cost us last season, and it’s mid-July and we’ve got nobody new in, I don’t see how Martial leaving on top is going to help things.

He played 29 games averaging 40 mins. With actually most of his minutes coming above the average coming in a small clump at the end of the season. Genuinely sad to see, but thee has been no evidence he is over his injuries, and even if he is , it has certainly affected how he plays.

 

[Idxomer]

With Telles gone and Martial and Bailly strong rumours, Saudi are really doing us a favour this window.

Wouldn't say the rumours regarding Martial are strong yet, this Twitter account seems to belong to a nobody.

 

[windycityfan]

Trainer and medical staff at United probably following this development with unabated hope and fervor.

 

[Ish]

He hasn't.

Thanks bud. Yeah I don’t think it’s news I’d have missed considering I am on the Caf every day.

 

[Castia]

It’s because of his ability that he’s survived this long. It’s his attitude and commitment that’s always been the issue.

Meh his ability isn't much is it. Sevilla realised that within 2 weeks.

 

[CM]

The problem is that he can't be trusted to stay fit, so we'll probably need to sign a second whether he stays or goes. If we manage to get Martial off the wage bill that will free up a considerable amount of money.

If it's Martial vs no replacement though, I'd much rather the former.

 

[No Idea For Nickname]

It’s because of his ability that he’s survived this long. It’s his attitude and commitment that’s always been the issue.

Ability you say, no. He survived this long because of this:

"Man Utd chairman to overrule Ole Gunnar Solskjaer with Anthony Martial transfer demand
EXCLUSIVE Anthony Martial's Man Utd future has been decided after a disagreement between Solskjaer and Joel Glazer

• David McDonnell
• 17:00, 14 May 2019

Anthony Martial's Manchester United future is secure – because the forward is viewed as the club's "Pele" by co-chairman Joel Glazer.

Martial's focus and commitment have been called into question by current United boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and his predecessor Jose Mourinho...."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-utd-chairman-overrule-ole-15807214

 

[Orton]

Ability you say, no. He survived this long because of this:

"Man Utd chairman to overrule Ole Gunnar Solskjaer with Anthony Martial transfer demand
EXCLUSIVE Anthony Martial's Man Utd future has been decided after a disagreement between Solskjaer and Joel Glazer

• David McDonnell
• 17:00, 14 May 2019

Anthony Martial's Manchester United future is secure – because the forward is viewed as the club's "Pele" by co-chairman Joel Glazer.

Martial's focus and commitment have been called into question by current United boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and his predecessor Jose Mourinho...."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-utd-chairman-overrule-ole-15807214

The irony is that this was before his best season for us so him staying at the time turned out to be justified. He put up decent numbers in 19/20, then spent the majority of the next 3 seasons either injured or out of form.

 

[Neil_Buchanan]

Be over the moon if we can get rid of him, nothing personal but he’s had more than enough chances whilst being paid at least double his worth. Plus bringing in another striker takes pressure off Hojlund.

 

[georgipep]

No hesitation, even for a miserly fee. His wages are astronomical, and then you consider what we actually get for those wages….

Another player who has shown sparks and spells of being a world beater than could fix our problems. But it’s too few and far between, his injury record and standard level of form is appalling.

100% on board with shifting him and his wages, and getting a main forward and then a rotation option who isn’t on £300k a week.

I don't get the complaint with his standard level of form when fit. We have been consistently better when Martial play. The problem is his injury record and the obvious fact that he is very injury prone. Which also, obviously, makes him difficult to sell.

 

[tenpoless]

Ability you say, no. He survived this long because of this:

"Man Utd chairman to overrule Ole Gunnar Solskjaer with Anthony Martial transfer demand
EXCLUSIVE Anthony Martial's Man Utd future has been decided after a disagreement between Solskjaer and Joel Glazer

• David McDonnell
• 17:00, 14 May 2019

Anthony Martial's Manchester United future is secure – because the forward is viewed as the club's "Pele" by co-chairman Joel Glazer.

Martial's focus and commitment have been called into question by current United boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and his predecessor Jose Mourinho...."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-utd-chairman-overrule-ole-15807214

Of course he saw Martial as Pele, he didnt even know who Pele was.

 

[zaafi]

People being happy with £10m for Martial ffs thank God you're not in charge

 

[Castia]

People being happy with £10m for Martial ffs thank God you're not in charge

Would snatch their hand off for 10m.

He's got 1 year left on his contract I believe and he's never available due to injury.

Out of interest what's your value of Martial?

 

[Borussia Teeth]

People being happy with £10m for Martial ffs thank God you're not in charge

I'd want more than £10m from Saudi, of course. However, if the Saudis aren't interested (no credible rumors yet) then there's no chance of getting even that when you consider his wages and injuries. Thank god you're not in charge overwise we'd be stuck with him for another season in the treatment table for £250k pw.

 

[doomy20]

People being happy with £10m for Martial ffs thank God you're not in charge

As another team and seeing Martials injury record, depressive attitude and actual output the last 2 years, how much would you pay? Of course 10M and off the payroll would be ok

 

[zaafi]

Would snatch their hand off for 10m.

He's got 1 year left on his contract I believe and he's never available due to injury.

Out of interest what's your value of Martial?

I'd probably value him at £30m. He is a very talented player, and he would likely do very well in a weaker league if he manages to get rid of his injuries. He has one year left, but when you consider all the players who are much worse than him going for way higher fees, it's not an unrealistic task.

 

[RopersReturn]

People being happy with £10m for Martial ffs thank God you're not in charge

At least that would be £10m we didn’t have before, and we need the money.

 

[zaafi]

I'd want more than £10m from Saudi, of course. However, if the Saudis aren't interested (no credible rumors yet) then there's no chance of getting even that when you consider his wages and injuries. Thank god you're not in charge overwise we'd be stuck with him for another season in the treatment table for £250k pw.

He played 21 PL matches, it's not like he is constantly injured even if it seems like it. £10m for him is an awful business deal no matter how you look at it. Considering our striker options, we'd be better off not selling him for that ridiculous sum.

 

[zaafi]

At least that would be £10m we didn’t have before, and we need the money.

That would also leave us with no striker, so what is the point?

 

[zaafi]

As another team and seeing Martials injury record, depressive attitude and actual output the last 2 years, how much would you pay? Of course 10M and off the payroll would be ok

What's wrong with his output when you consider his goals and assists per 90?

Elanga went for £15m and you want to get rid of Martial for £10m. Jesus.

 

[Castia]

I'd probably value him at £30m. He is a very talented player, and he would likely do very well in a weaker league if he manages to get rid of his injuries. He has one year left, but when you consider all the players who are much worse than him going for way higher fees, it's not an unrealistic task.

Nobody is paying that for Martial, you'd struggle to ship him out on loan.

Performance is shite, injury record is shite, attitude is shite.

Awful player that would have been sold at any serious club years ago. It took Sevilla about 2 weeks to realise he's dog shit.

If 10m is offered we should pack his bags and pay for his private jet

 

[Leftback99]

His performances are nowhere near as big a problem as people make out. Injuries are the biggest issue with him.

I expect anyone thinking a gamble like Hojlund will come in and offer far more (other than being available) will be disappointed.

 

[Borussia Teeth]

What's wrong with his output when you consider his goals and assists per 90?

Elanga went for £15m and you want to get rid of Martial for £10m. Jesus.

Elanga is a 21 year old on 5k pw with no history of injury issues. His fee is irelevant to a Martial transfer.

 

[Houdini]

30m Saudis are you listening?

 

[D-o-m-i-n-i-k]

I'd probably value him at £30m. He is a very talented player, and he would likely do very well in a weaker league if he manages to get rid of his injuries. He has one year left, but when you consider all the players who are much worse than him going for way higher fees, it's not an unrealistic task.

Weaker league is where in your opinion????

No club outside of Saudi Arabia will pay more than £15m for him.

 

[Yakuza_devils]

I would be happy to get 10M for him. We need to get rid of underperforming/injury prone players. We need to be more ruthless and only go for the best like City.

 

[zaafi]

Weaker league is where in your opinion????

No club outside of Saudi Arabia will pay more than £15m for him.

Serie A, Ligue 1, Bundesliga. In a market where Morgan Gibbs White goes for £50m, and you don't think clubs can pay £15m for Martial? Some of you are still stuck in 2010.

 

[daba]

I'd probably value him at £30m. He is a very talented player, and he would likely do very well in a weaker league if he manages to get rid of his injuries. He has one year left, but when you consider all the players who are much worse than him going for way higher fees, it's not an unrealistic task.

I’d say with 2 years on his contract instead of 1 he’s a £40m player. With just one year, left I would agree, £25-30m is about right. Add in the wages issue to a normal (non-Saudi) club you’d like have to knock off £5-10m to cover his remaining contract.

With Saudi in the picture I do think £25-30m is realistic, especially when you benchmark him against other transfers happening. Eg. a 33-year old Henderson going for £12m and a 31/32 year old Mahrez for £30m.

 

[golden_blunder]

Is that Al-Exclusive

 

[Ted Lasso]

Absolute revisionist nonsense but okay.

Brah, stop it. It's my memories

If you really want to keep clowning and make subjective rankings then lets feckin go, give em to me. Start with a top ten and let's see many standout to me.

 

[D-o-m-i-n-i-k]

Serie A, Ligue 1, Bundesliga. In a market where Morgan Gibbs White goes for £50m, and you don't think clubs can pay £15m for Martial? Some of you are still stuck in 2010.

You say "Martial would likely do very well in a weaker league" but you rate him for £30m.

But clubs outside of the Premier-League-money-bubble, the top clubs (Real Madrid, Barca, Bayern Munich, Paris) and now clubs in Saudi Arabia have no money to pay that (Fee and wages) for a player like Martial.

So if you think that for example clubs like Juventus, AC Milan, Inter Milan, Nepoli, Roma, Atletico Madrid, Dortmund, Leipzig or Marseille will pay £30m for Martial then you live in your own bubble........£15m would be fantastic for him and that is a realistic fee for him after the last years.

 

[Borussia Teeth]

Serie A, Ligue 1, Bundesliga. In a market where Morgan Gibbs White goes for £50m, and you don't think clubs can pay £15m for Martial? Some of you are still stuck in 2010.

You use Series A, Ligue 1 and BL as your examples of 'weaker leagues' then use a PL player, transferred between PL clubs as an example of a transfer fee.

Great logic there.

 

[pogbasformerbarber]

For the like of me I can’t figure out why anyone would want to sell him right now. Do folks on here not understand squad positions?

Totally agree that he’s not the answer at ST for our ambitions…he’s not good enough and gets hurt too easily. But he is a perfect squad ST as he plays to ETH’s style. He’s been quite good when fit in fact. So why sell him?

One…right now we have zero other pure STs, so selling him would be mad. Yes he gets hurt but one often hurt ST is better than zero.

Two…if we don get a legit starting ST, as mentioned earlier he is a perfect back up. So again…why sell him?

I just don’t get the rush to sell all of these players to basically gut the team and give us absolutely no depth. Many of these guys are perfect squad players.

 

[elmo]

For the like of me I can’t figure out why anyone would want to sell him right now. Do folks on here not understand squad positions?

Totally agree that he’s not the answer at ST for our ambitions…he’s not good enough and gets hurt too easily. But he is a perfect squad ST as he plays to ETH’s style. He’s been quite good when fit in fact. So why sell him?

One…right now we have zero other pure STs, so selling him would be mad. Yes he gets hurt but one often hurt ST is better than zero.

Two…if we don get a legit starting ST, as mentioned earlier he is a perfect back up. So again…why sell him?

I just don’t get the rush to sell all of these players to basically gut the team and give us absolutely no depth. Many of these guys are perfect squad players.

Because he’s basically never fully fit? He’s the type of player that can only perform well when he’s fully healthy and any slight knock and he’s a pale shadow of himself.

We’re better off moving him on and forcing ourself to play the youngsters. That’s literally how the likes of Rashford broke through.

 

[zaafi]

You use Series A, Ligue 1 and BL as your examples of 'weaker leagues' then use a PL player, transferred between PL clubs as an example of a transfer fee.

Great logic there.

This post makes zero sense. What has Serie A, Bundesliga and Ligue 1 being weaker leagues anything to do with transfers between PL teams? I'm honestly stunned this is what you managed to scrape together from that post, using it as an argument like it is somehow relevant to anything? Not only that, you have the audacity to finish with "great logic" after that tragic logic of yours?

AC Milan just bought Christian fecking Pulisic for €20m. You don't think they can pay £15m for Martial?