Martial agent looking for a new club for him

Times up.

He’s 5th choice striker, behind Ronaldo, Cavani, Greenwood & Rashford.
 
Cash in on him and give Elanga his spot, simple. He's of absolute no use to this team. Wish him all the best but he's done here.
 
As big an admirer of his as I was, it feels like his time his nearly done. I said this season was his last chance and he doesn't seem to have it anymore.

It's a real shame given his ability but it is what it is

ThierryHenry14 said:
This is the hardest part to be honest.
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We could bear part of his wages if we're willing to let him go for a reasonable fee? Obviously not too reasonable as he's still very talented.
 
At this point, we are just hoping that he will show some desire to play regularly and leave, rather than staying on bench and collecting cheques and waiting to see if United offer him a new contract "to protect the value"
 
amolbhatia50k said:
As big an admirer of his as I was, it feels like his time his nearly done. I said this season was his last chance and he doesn't seem to have it anymore.

It's a real shame given his ability but it is what it is


We could bear part of his wages if we're willing to let him go for a reasonable fee? Obviously not too reasonable as he's still very talented.
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He did not show his talent or ability on the pitch for the past 18 months or so. His lack of off the ball movement as a forward/wide forward is an issue and his wages is another big issue. It is not easy to move on unwanted players on high wages nowadays. As an arsenal fan I won't take him because he didn't work hard enough as arsenal against top 4 team we no longer have the possession anymore. We can't carry a player like that, let alone his big wages.
 
There goes the myth that he will be amazing coming from the bench… he does not have the right attitude and it shows. Should have sold him in the summer
 
We will have to decrease our price for Martial as he is on big wages and woefully out of form. Horrific combo for a decent sale.
 
ThierryHenry14 said:
He did not show his talent or ability on the pitch for the past 18 months or so. His lack of off the ball movement as a forward/wide forward is an issue and his wages is another big issue. It is not easy to move on unwanted players on high wages nowadays. As an arsenal fan I won't take him because he didn't work hard enough as arsenal against top 4 team we no longer have the possession anymore. We can't carry a player like that, let alone his big wages.
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Absolutely. He without a shadow of doubt is immensely gifted but his game has fallen apart from that period, which is why selling him being the best outcome for us, is a shame. Completely wasting his career.
 
For such a talented footballer it pains me to see that he's become utterly rubbish at football due to chronic laziness. it's time for Elanga to step up.
 
Martial would need strict coaching to lose weight, get fit and enhance stamina level. Ole's approach that "place trust on player and they will pay back to it" just proves not working on Martial because he lacks self-driven mindset. He still got the skills in his feet, but just not fit enough to beat his opponent anymore, like the 39 year-old fat Ronaldo. It just looks like he get tired very easily, not that he did not want to run, it's like he just can't now.

If Ole did not see it, I actually doubt Ole's man management as it indicates he could not apply different approaches to different players. Lukaku also suffered similar situation before he left: overweight and lost agility, hardly made run behind defend line. Inter found out the issue right after he joined . diagnosed his digestive problem and pushed him to lose weight. That just the world-class coaching team would be able to do.

Martial already run of out the benefits of the doubt and he definitely should share most part of the blame for his underperformance. However, I don't see our coaching team help out and provide any effective solution. It seems all they have tried so far is to throw him on the pitch to show the trust and let him pick up the form. On the other side if coaching team have tried all solutions and nothing works , they should make their mind by now that Martial is done and should not waste further game time on him. Tell his agent to look for new club or he will warm the bench until it melts.
 
Max_United said:
He has a 250k per week contract until 2024. We cannot force him to move and accept a lower wage at another club if he does not want to - and it would be problematic to find a club willing to pay him that. It is prohibitively high for the clubs likely to be interested in him (I suppose it is the likes of Lyon or Italian clubs).
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I know what youre saying and its the clubs fault for throwing these contracts around like confetti to dead wood like Martial, Jones, and others. Its a football club not a charity.
 
Should've been sold in summer. I'm not sure what Oles thinking is in keeping so many attacking players, Sancho, Rashford, Lingard, Cavani, Ronaldo, Greenwood, there's six there that would get ahead of Martial and there's only three positions. That's without considering Elanga, it's complete overkill.
 
The Urban Goose said:
Not if it's Martial wanting to leave, rather than the club wanting him gone, it isn't.
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Hes paid £250.000 a week to basically play 45 minutes every now and then and contribute nothing. We should have sold him the minute another club showed an interest in him.
 
Does Martial look like a type of player who wants to play regularly? If not then he will not push for a move and be happy enough staying in here collecting his 250k p.w.
 
In all seriousness, what’s happened him? He looks a shadow of the player he once was. Looks heavier too. Can’t all be laziness surely!?

at the current rate of decline he will end up like Sanchez which would be a shame because on his day he’s fantastic
 
He’s a drain on our resources, and when he plays, on the whole team. We need rid of him ASAP. How long is his contact? Are we going to be stuck with him? Even worse, young players like Elanga who clearly give 1000000 times more of a fvck and actually try to play well are also losing out. Another indication of the terrible club policy of keeping and actively rewarding substandard dross
 
golden_blunder said:
In all seriousness, what’s happened him? He looks a shadow of the player he once was. Looks heavier too. Can’t all be laziness surely!?

at the current rate of decline he will end up like Sanchez which would be a shame because on his day he’s fantastic
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Not sure. He's insisted he's a 9, despite all his managers saying he's not, even Solskjaer said he lacks a strikers instinct and won't break his nose for a goal. Maybe he's trying to bulk up and become that classic back to goal forward? Either way, whatever he's done to his game it's ruined him, he should go back to France where he probably still has some goodwill.
 
"Should have sold him in the summer."

What club put in an offer? A club Martial would be willing to move to?

Should we not have gotten Sancho or Ronaldo until we sold Martial?

Every player in the squad should be given chances, in less important matches. The League Cup (especially earlier stages) are one of those matches. Now he got a full 90 minutes and cannot complain in the future if he's left down the pecking order. Now he's likely relegated to the bench again barring any injury crisis, and may get some chances at the end of matches, but unless he takes those chances well he shouldn't start any matches of importance (at least not at CF).
 
arnie_ni said:
Think I'm about done, and I am (was?) A huge fan
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Same. Don't know what has happened to him. It is sad to see. He has always looked disinterested in the Berbatov mould, but he usually came to life whenever he got the ball and started running at people. Can't remember the last time I've seen him do that. Maybe he has gone down the Lingard route and having trouble off the field. Either way, we can't afford to let him take up a space in the starting eleven/matchday squad the way he is playing now.
 
Matriac said:
"Should have sold him in the summer."

What club put in an offer? A club Martial would be willing to move to?

Should we not have gotten Sancho or Ronaldo until we sold Martial?

Every player in the squad should be given chances, in less important matches. The League Cup (especially earlier stages) are one of those matches. Now he got a full 90 minutes and cannot complain in the future if he's left down the pecking order. Now he's likely relegated to the bench again barring any injury crisis, and may get some chances at the end of matches, but unless he takes those chances well he shouldn't start any matches of importance (at least not at CF).
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Apparently Lyon made an offer? But the summer market was quiet as everyone wanted to reduce their wage budget, not increase it.

Honestly, no matter what we're going to have to pay him to play elsewhere for a few years, we might as well have done it this summer just gone. It doesn't matter who the team is, if they're willing to loan him and contribute to some of his salary then we move him on. If he refuses to go then tell him he's 5th choice at United in the CF position and probably won't play again this season unless we have a bunch of injuries.

He's not good enough to play CF but he's bulked up too much to play LW, he doesn't have a position anymore.
 
crossy1686 said:
As a man that doesn't hang players out to dry, this is very bad news for Martial. Solskajer has been loyal to him and he's doing his best to get him sacked with these performances, including 7 goals in more than a season.
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Agree. Things are grim when Ole, possibly the nicest manager in English football, starts making a snide comment about his own player publicly.
 
crossy1686 said:
Apparently Lyon made an offer? But the summer market was quiet as everyone wanted to reduce their wage budget, not increase it.

Honestly, no matter what we're going to have to pay him to play elsewhere for a few years, we might as well have done it this summer just gone. It doesn't matter who the team is, if they're willing to loan him and contribute to some of his salary then we move him on. If he refuses to go then tell him he's 5th choice at United in the CF position and probably won't play again this season unless we have a bunch of injuries.

He's not good enough to play CF but he's bulked up too much to play LW, he doesn't have a position anymore.
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They offered to loan him on deadline day. Martial turned them down himself. That late in the window you've likely made up your mind for the coming season and don't want to make changes unless someone comes in for you convincingly. And with James leaving and Rashford out for a while, he probably figured he'd get enough chances (maybe he even knew Cavani would be out for a while). Maybe he didn't think Sancho would start on the LW over him.

According to other reports we were willing to sell him all summer for offers north of £25m. But again, Martial must have been willing to move himself.
 
Matriac said:
They offered to loan him on deadline day. Martial turned them down himself. That late in the window you've likely made up your mind for the coming season and don't want to make changes unless someone comes in for you convincingly. And with James leaving and Rashford out for a while, he probably figured he'd get enough chances (maybe he even knew Cavani would be out for a while). Maybe he didn't think Sancho would start on the LW over him.

According to other reports we were willing to sell him all summer for offers north of £25m. But again, Martial must have been willing to move himself.
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I think he would have got more minutes if Ronaldo hadn't come in. We'd probably be starting him most games now, which would be utterly depressing. Hopefully he realises that this just isn't working for him and he needs to move on. As long as we cover his salary up to what he's currently on he shouldn't have any issues joining Lyon or Inter on loan in Jan
 
Was a huge fan.

This isn't the same Martial we had a few seasons ago. God knows whats happened.

Needs to drop a level and rediscover himself like Memphis.
 
Obviously I can't speak for the guy but I get the impression he just isn't enjoying/has fallen out of love with football.
 
crossy1686 said:
I think he would have got more minutes if Ronaldo hadn't come in. We'd probably be starting him most games now, which would be utterly depressing. Hopefully he realises that this just isn't working for him and he needs to move on. As long as we cover his salary up to what he's currently on he shouldn't have any issues joining Lyon or Inter on loan in Jan
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Yeah, I think we have to potentially look at it like a Jesse situation. Best for him and us, I still think there's a hell of a player in there.
 
crossy1686 said:
I think he would have got more minutes if Ronaldo hadn't come in. We'd probably be starting him most games now, which would be utterly depressing. Hopefully he realises that this just isn't working for him and he needs to move on. As long as we cover his salary up to what he's currently on he shouldn't have any issues joining Lyon or Inter on loan in Jan
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Moving to another club includes moving to another city and in the cases of the clubs you quoted, another country. That's not as simple as choosing what to eat tonight. Players have lives. If he doesn't want to move there's nothing Manchester United can do.
 
crossy1686 said:
I think he would have got more minutes if Ronaldo hadn't come in. We'd probably be starting him most games now, which would be utterly depressing. Hopefully he realises that this just isn't working for him and he needs to move on. As long as we cover his salary up to what he's currently on he shouldn't have any issues joining Lyon or Inter on loan in Jan
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That I agree with.

He got his chance now to prove himself after his summer out of the international squad to work on himself and come back motivated, but didn't look like he cared, that he was too big of a player to play in the second string team or something.

Now he either has to turn it around for himself through a few 15-20min subs, or he should go on loan in January to revive his career like Lingard did. (And ideally in my mind, make a permanent transfer in the summer.)
When Rashford and Cavani are back there should be no chance for him to start. He might not even make the bench in some games.
 
georgipep said:
Moving to another club includes moving to another city and in the cases of the clubs you quoted, another country. That's not as simple as choosing what to eat tonight. Players have lives. If he doesn't want to move there's nothing Manchester United can do.
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I'm sure he'd settle fine back in Monaco, Lille or Lyon. Milan isn't bad either, it doesn't have a Gay Village or a curry mile but I think he'd be alright.
 
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