Martial agent looking for a new club for him

I certainly wouldn't give a feck if he went tomorrow, sick of watching him half arseing it through games when he plays.
Think it was against Sheffield United where he was just walking about, plus I'm not even sure he's been missed that much anyway.
 
Real Madras said:
Martial can be anything he wants to be. Think it’s too early to get rid.
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He's 26 later this year, so he isn't a young kid anymore, but he just hasn't blossomed into anything like the player that he has the ability to be.
Personally, I believe the time has come to part ways, get a decent fee for him and reinvest it, or better still, use him as a part exchange, and as a team we would be better off.
 
Sandikan said:
Well he scored 17 league goals in 2019/20, so i'd say he has a little more chance than you.
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When someone says '20 goal a season striker' they dont mean a striker who scores 20 in a season once in his career. If he was going to be a top player he'd be putting up consistent numbers and performances. Hes 25 now and he isnt, he's not even a first choice player. He's got absolutely nothing like the right mentality to be one of the backup players either. He needs moving on.
 
Rajiztar said:
I didn't say it's true but rumour is going around and player is not happy with not getting game time.

He personally got frustrated for not going to euros because of limited game time at the end of season. Of course it's all rumour though.
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He was out injured and we ended up playing the likes of Shoretaire because our starters needed a break.
 
This has been his worst season at Utd. He missed sitter after sitter, awful body language, blaming every other player on the pitch whilst taking no responability on his shoulders. A disgrace really. I can't imagine another club would want to buy him. A loan deal might be best so he doesn't stink Old Trafford out next season.
 
Rajiztar said:
I didn't say it's true but rumour is going around and player is not happy with not getting game time.

He personally got frustrated for not going to euros because of limited game time at the end of season. Of course it's all rumour though.
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He wasn't fit (atleast reportedly) so can't complain about gametime. In fact we could have used him during the cramped up schedule at the end. Can't see him having complaints about not getting chances to be honest. Under Ole he has been given the main striker role and even in the last season he was given lots of opportunities.
 
SATA said:
Still no serious source other than the baldie? It would have been all over the papers if this is true I think
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It's obviously not true. Both him and DVB and staying. It's the silly season.
 
smi11ie said:
This has been his worst season at Utd. He missed sitter after sitter, awful body language, blaming every other player on the pitch whilst taking no responability on his shoulders. A disgrace really. I can't imagine another club would want to buy him. A loan deal might be best so he doesn't stink Old Trafford out next season.
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Where do people get this stuff from? :lol:
 
golden_blunder said:
Vdb is definitely staying, we haven’t seen the best of him yet.

probably martial will stay at least one more season, but it surely has to be make or break for him
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Yes, it could be his last chance. Though next season Cavani is gone so do we let two strikers go in one summer? Unless we get a very good offer I can see him staying for a bit.
 
jackal&hyde said:
Yes, it could be his last chance. Though next season Cavani is gone so do we let two strikers go in one summer? Unless we get a very good offer I can see him staying for a bit.
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You'd hope Greenwood and Amad would be further on, so we'd only need to buy one striker
 
It's time to move on regardless, at this point. It would probably be best for him to have a change of scenery, an for Utd to find a more consistent replacement.
 
Will always love that goal on his debut against Liverpool, he really has shown some glimpses of brilliance and the talent he has but severely lacking in mentality to become what he could. Was so excited about him, it's sad to think that now it's hard to care and I am leaning more towards it being best to get rid and try make some money to use on transfers or as part of deals if possible, offer him plus cash to Real M for Varane or him plus a lot of cash to Dortmund for Haaland haha (fantasy land I know)
 
Rauður Djöfull said:
Will always love that goal on his debut against Liverpool, he really has shown some glimpses of brilliance and the talent he has but severely lacking in mentality to become what he could. Was so excited about him, it's sad to think that now it's hard to care and I am leaning more towards it being best to get rid and try make some money to use on transfers or as part of deals if possible, offer him plus cash to Real M for Varane or him plus a lot of cash to Dortmund for Haaland haha (fantasy land I know)
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Yeah, hes not exactly Dortmund's profile of signing. They target players on an upward curve, not players on big wages with a relaxed attitude to their own progression. Inter Milan seem to do well with that kind of player. Alas, rumour is theyre potless.
 
SATA said:
Madrid love signing their galaticos, so i hope there’s a chance they’ll take him off us. He’s still a star name in world football
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Im not sure how he can be classed as a galactico when he isnt a first choice for his club or his country. He didnt even make the France squad did he?
 
Scholsey2004 said:
Im not sure how he can be classed as a galactico when he isnt a first choice for his club or his country. He didnt even make the France squad did he?
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Quite hard to make the squad when you've been injured for months in fairness.
Plus it's not exactly a weak squad.

Makes me laugh, oh he doesn't even make the international team. People did it for Herrera when Spain had an insane midfield too.
It's not like he's not making Scotland or San Marino squads
 
SATA said:
Madrid love signing their galaticos, so i hope there’s a chance they’ll take him off us. He’s still a star name in world football
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Not sure if serious, nobody rated him outside United, big star probably 4 years ago and shred of it last year, but after this year... wouldn't be shocked if he somehow ended with teams like West Ham.

Awful attitude, all those talents wasted.
 
Patience well and truly done with him.

He wanted to be the main man - we have it to him. He done ok for one season and atrociously this.

He's been here years - he's never going to get better, only worse. Cavani showed in half a season more know how, goal threat and workrate than Martial has in 5 seasons.

As other posters have already said - he's not got the mentality to be a back up and fight for his place. He's done here - get him gone.
 
He is a good player if you want to fight for top 4, will score you goals in patches.

If we want to win the league, players like him are useless. He is not consistent enough to be able to cement a place. Any little change, he starts to sulk which is not what we want.

I would rather see him gone this summer.
 
Martial must be the only striker where 17 league goals gives people a massive boner. Jamie Vardy does that in his sleep. Martial can't even displace Olivier bloody Giroud in the French squad for years now.

Lets not call him a Galactico please.
 
A big shame. I love is footwork and dribbling ability. He can also be a deadly finisher but it always appears he is too cool for school. Hoped he was going to be our modern forward for a decade but it looks like the club might have lost patience with him.
 
I actually don’t think his dribbling is that good. It looks great when it comes off but more often then not he looses possession. The best part about him is his finishing when he is in form. Unfortunately the periods during which he is in form tend to be short so impact over a session is not enough.
 
Do Bayern need a back up centre forward? Can we do a straight swap with them for Coman? Push Greenwood into the centre forward position with Cavani. Rashford/Sancho/Coman/Amad/James as our wide options.
 
Freak said:
Do Bayern need a back up centre forward? Can we do a straight swap with them for Coman? Push Greenwood into the centre forward position with Cavani. Rashford/Sancho/Coman/Amad/James as our wide options.
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Barca might be interested, sell him and get De Jong.
 
What I find shocking is how below average he seems when playing for France.

I mean he isnt great but he has been a decent to good player at United every once in a while - for France though he is really meh.

It's one of the main reasons I dont like Giggs as much after his ideas of signing Dan James and Martial.
 
Sandikan said:
Quite hard to make the squad when you've been injured for months in fairness.
Plus it's not exactly a weak squad.

Makes me laugh, oh he doesn't even make the international team. People did it for Herrera when Spain had an insane midfield too.
It's not like he's not making Scotland or San Marino squads
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So whats your interpretation of a 'galactico' then? Nobody in their right minds would describe Herrera as a galactico either. Galactico's are world class signings like Zidane, Ronaldo etc. Not players who are just good.
 
Freak said:
Do Bayern need a back up centre forward? Can we do a straight swap with them for Coman? Push Greenwood into the centre forward position with Cavani. Rashford/Sancho/Coman/Amad/James as our wide options.
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I highly doubt any top tier team would sign Martial.
 
Scholsey2004 said:
So whats your interpretation of a 'galactico' then? Nobody in their right minds would describe Herrera as a galactico either. Galactico's are world class signings like Zidane, Ronaldo etc. Not players who are just good.
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What's a galactico got to do with anything i'm saying pal?
Did you respond to the wrong person?
 
The one thing I truly dislike about United's principles is keeping the players too long on the books.

Of course new signing might need 2, maximum 3 seasons to adapt and develop IF the question is in adaptation and the quirks of the league/competitions etc, BUT if player's mindset stays at the same low and won't show any progress, then why bother? Sell the player, get him off the books and buy a replacement who wants to wear the shirt and become the best. Mentality>skills. Talent without determination and motivation is nothing.

I am an entrepreneur myself and it's so hard for me to understand the board, as your "employees"/footballers are the ones who make the difference where it matters. And when you feel that they are half-arsed and lack the mindset, then you axe them. Not wait for 3+ years for some magical moment to happen. Like.... why? Time is so precious and limited resource.

It'd be so much easier to do that like we do hiring in "regular" life: hire, observe and when you feel that there's no fit, axe the employee and replace one. You don't give one 5 years and hope for the best. It's just so stupid approach.
 
rooney2009 said:
Lukaku was also a proven striker when He came here and wasn’t really given a proper chance after a bad spell..He now is one of the best strikers in the world
We always seem to pick on players especially in the last few years to blame for our recent failures
Players like Blind,Young and Lingard come to mind
I’m sure when Martial leaves,He will be a success at a club like PSG
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To be fair Lukaku was our primary striker and had plenty of opportunities to nail that position down for years to come. I still remember his atrocious first touch and appalling lack of movement as he would just stand in one spot and expect the service to come to him.

I have no idea why he's firing on all cylinders for Conte but perhaps Lukaku was part of the malaise that surrounded the club, and maybe still does, with mention of cliques etc
 
Ronaldo's Love Child said:
To be fair Lukaku was our primary striker and had plenty of opportunities to nail that position down for years to come. I still remember his atrocious first touch and appalling lack of movement as he would just stand in one spot and expect the service to come to him.

I have no idea why he's firing on all cylinders for Conte but perhaps Lukaku was part of the malaise that surrounded the club, and maybe still does, with mention of cliques etc
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The reason he's firing now is cause he was made to lose that shit ton of weight he put on.
 
JanK said:
The one thing I truly dislike about United's principles is keeping the players too long on the books.

Of course new signing might need 2, maximum 3 seasons to adapt and develop IF the question is in adaptation and the quirks of the league/competitions etc, BUT if player's mindset stays at the same low and won't show any progress, then why bother? Sell the player, get him off the books and buy a replacement who wants to wear the shirt and become the best. Mentality>skills. Talent without determination and motivation is nothing.

I am an entrepreneur myself and it's so hard for me to understand the board, as your "employees"/footballers are the ones who make the difference where it matters. And when you feel that they are half-arsed and lack the mindset, then you axe them. Not wait for 3+ years for some magical moment to happen. Like.... why? Time is so precious and limited resource.

It'd be so much easier to do that like we do hiring in "regular" life: hire, observe and when you feel that there's no fit, axe the employee and replace one. You don't give one 5 years and hope for the best. It's just so stupid approach.
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Absolutely. In an industry that’s almost solely based on talent acquisition, development, prospecting and turnover we have to be the worst big club out there post Fergie. I don’t want shiny new toys all the time. I just want the right lads and like it or not it’s trial and error. I like players like Fred Lindelof and James because they fight for their place as much as fans are divided on them. But when you have big stars on huge money phoning it in or not performing for whatever reason, cut them and reinvest. Stop wasting each other’s time and money.

Same thing with sitting on youth players until their value is gone and their contracts are too big to sell them on. It’s an exercise in cost cutting by the glazers. Much like the way they manage all that club debt by just paying off the interest. The deadwood is seen as the squad debt that won’t be cleared out until there’s no value left in the player at all. These days a new contract for Lingard wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest.
 
JanK said:
The one thing I truly dislike about United's principles is keeping the players too long on the books.

Of course new signing might need 2, maximum 3 seasons to adapt and develop IF the question is in adaptation and the quirks of the league/competitions etc, BUT if player's mindset stays at the same low and won't show any progress, then why bother? Sell the player, get him off the books and buy a replacement who wants to wear the shirt and become the best. Mentality>skills. Talent without determination and motivation is nothing.

I am an entrepreneur myself and it's so hard for me to understand the board, as your "employees"/footballers are the ones who make the difference where it matters. And when you feel that they are half-arsed and lack the mindset, then you axe them. Not wait for 3+ years for some magical moment to happen. Like.... why? Time is so precious and limited resource.

It'd be so much easier to do that like we do hiring in "regular" life: hire, observe and when you feel that there's no fit, axe the employee and replace one. You don't give one 5 years and hope for the best. It's just so stupid approach.
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I really feel like Ole sees the importance of this, but he doesn't have as much control in this regard as many fans think. Especially when you have players on inflated wages, it becomes a lot harder to shift them.
 
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