The Moon shines on Fellaini on average every 3 Months. Messi and Ronaldo in the same sentence as Fellaini is well...So , when Messi or CR7 have a shit game , but score the winner , this is world class , but when our Fella does it ...
Fellaini was about to be substituted and was only kept on due to Valencia's possible injury.It was wise to keep him on given the only way we were going to score tonight was from a cross because we were so devoid of any creativity.
Fellaini was about to be substituted and was only kept on due to Valencia's possible injury.
No he has. He has been a major contribution in the few trophies we won in these years, and scored loads of vital goals. His form has been the most consistent. He has given us far more than some of the signings the fan drooled over to no end like Depay, Bastian, Morgan, Di Maria, Falcao, Sanchez ..etc. All this while getting booed and hated by the fans in a ridiculous way but he keeps going on, doing the job and saving our arses from time to time..There's no signing that had made as major and consistent impact from year to year like he did, and he's definitely not the reason of our decline.
I wish that our players have half of his mentality when they step on the pitch. Just half of it will be fine.
Bit unfair that last bit. Since Sir Alex retired I can't recall any other player that has scored more of our goals in 1-0 wins. Must be a half dozen now.
I like Fellaini, but I'm getting seriously tired of him being played in a normal midfield position. He's a role-player, not an actual midfielder. If you want someone to sit deep and really protect the defenders, he can do that as he showed in those two games earlier in the season. If you want someone to man-mark an opposition danger-man, he can do that (although Herrera is probably better). If you want someone you can bring on in the last 20-30 minutes and really change the game (either offensively or defensively), he's the man.
Give him a specific role to fill and he's generally good at it. But just putting him in the midfield and expecting things to work out? No. Just no.
Credit to him for scoring the winner, but otherwise he was terrible today.
Last night was actually the first time he's scored the winner in a 1-0. Rashford, Rooney, Martial and Mata all have about 4-6 goals each in 1-0 wins since 2013.
No kidding. Could have sworn it was more. But I should know better than to trust my memory. How many winners in general does he have?
Fellaini has made a grand contribution of averaging 4 goals a season. A goal doesn't mask his limitations in general and his display yesterday.
This sounds really bad, and I’m sorry, but I actually kinda hate everyone in this thread that’s trying to be positive and complimentary. I mean, I’m sure you’re all very nice, and look after your mums, but seriously, feck you all. I’ve absolutely no idea what planet you live on, but I hope it explodes.
The whole “he does a good job and gives his all” thing is no longer amusing to me. I’ve never seen a player so utterly ramshackle, allowed to play in whatever fecking position he wants, for however long he wants, and then be excused for the way he absolutely destroys any semblance of positioning, or how often he fecks up our football, by virtue of the fact that he can bundle in a goal to rescue a result against a team we should be beating easily, and probably would be if we didn’t set our entire team up to play to strengths of Everton’s 3rd best player circa 2012.
We’re a dead club walking for as long as this thread remains relevant.
Is actually our only SunThe Moon shines on Fellaini on average every 3 Months. Messi and Ronaldo in the same sentence as Fellaini is well...
That doesn't even mean anything! how do you deserve to score the winner ? people are fecking nuts in here!
Fellaini has made a grand contribution of averaging 4 goals a season. A goal doesn't mask his limitations in general and his display yesterday.
If we've got a squad player that can come into this wayward team and contribute a handful of winners across each season that's really not too bad. Pretty sure anyone here defensive Fellaini feels we should be focused on the rest of the squad right so the former can be just that - a squad option with tangible output.He has 8-9 winners.
If we've got a squad player that can come into this wayward team and contribute a handful of winners across each season that's really not too bad. Pretty sure anyone here defensive Fellaini feels we should be focused on the rest of the squad right so the former can be just that - a squad option with tangible output.
In many ways this debate stinks a lot like the anti-Oshea one. Basically, bit of misplaced attention and scapegoating for problems upstream .
This. I agree. Spot on!The problem is not Fellaini. The problem is that the rest of the team or tactics is crap. Fellaini can start for Belgium and they can play great football. Fellaini starts for United and United play crap football. Fellaini does not start for Belgium and they play great football. Fellaini does not start for United and we play crap football.
So the question is not Fellaini. Even with him in the side or without him we still play crap football. The same with Belgium. With him or without him they play the same good football.
The problem is not Fellaini. The problem is that the rest of the team or tactics is crap. Fellaini can start for Belgium and they can play great football. Fellaini starts for United and United play crap football. Fellaini does not start for Belgium and they play great football. Fellaini does not start for United and we play crap football.
So the question is not Fellaini. Even with him in the side or without him we still play crap football. The same with Belgium. With him or without him they play the same good football.
The problem is not Fellaini. The problem is that the rest of the team or tactics is crap. Fellaini can start for Belgium and they can play great football. Fellaini starts for United and United play crap football. Fellaini does not start for Belgium and they play great football. Fellaini does not start for United and we play crap football.
So the question is not Fellaini. Even with him in the side or without him we still play crap football. The same with Belgium. With him or without him they play the same good football.
..."they play great football".... I sure wish he played last game against Switzerland. We missed presence in the midfield, aerial-threat in front of the goal, fighting spirit. Everything he has in spades. And his balls the size of a jumbo-jet!
This sounds really bad, and I’m sorry, but I actually kinda hate everyone in this thread that’s trying to be positive and complimentary. I mean, I’m sure you’re all very nice, and look after your mums, but seriously, feck you all. I’ve absolutely no idea what planet you live on, but I hope it explodes.
The whole “he does a good job and gives his all” thing is no longer amusing to me. I’ve never seen a player so utterly ramshackle, allowed to play in whatever fecking position he wants, for however long he wants, and then be excused for the way he absolutely destroys any semblance of positioning, or how often he fecks up our football, by virtue of the fact that he can bundle in a goal to rescue a result against a team we should be beating easily, and probably would be if we didn’t set our entire team up to play to strengths of Everton’s 3rd best player circa 2012.
We’re a dead club walking for as long as this thread remains relevant.
I was in full agreement, nodding along until....
If he really was only a squad player it wouldn't be so much of a problem but the truth is the only times he's actually been a squad player is the 1st half of last season. And that might have only been due to injuries. At this point it's evident that for Mourinho he's deemed an important player and not just a squad player, more often than not he starts him in important games. Recently in the Champions league alone he started vs Sevilla, Valencia and last night against Young Boys, those games ended up with terrible performances and a 1-2 loss, a 0-0 draw and a scrappy 1-0 win. We really should be winning all 3 at home and especially against last nights opposition.
Now obviously Fellaini isn't solely responsible for those turgud performances but he had as big a hand in them as anyone, mostly through no fault of his own. I think the explanation someone posted a page or two ago sums up United's Fellaini conundrum perfectly. He's often the solution to a problem that is created by his selection from the start in prominent positions of the team in the first place.
He has many great qualities, he's a good player and very effective at times when given a specific task. But you can't start him in your midfield and really expect any sort of flowing football or cohesive team performances. If you're Jose Mourinho thats fine it seems, as all he cares about is results. But it quite often doesn't work and we are punching well below our weight because of that mentality in my opinion. And i don't mean just with the continued misuse of Fellaini, Mourinho is generally misusing a lot of players for reasons that escape me.
I know it's harsh, but I will forever remember Fellaini as the start of when the rot set in, he might be useful, but he's a disaster of a tactic for a would be top team, he just breeds pure laziness from the manager and the players.
Maybe him leaving will coincide with Jose leaving, and then we can maybe move on.
We definitely seem to align on a few points about the big fella. Except for that in the bold. I find it very hard to reconcile with that after seeing Fellaini make his fair share of appearances under two different United managers now (ignoring DMs decisions for obvious reasons). Moreover, he's a valuable part of a quite free flowing Belgian national team that's done well just this past World Cup. So in my mind, there absolutely the possibility for him to be that plan B or C, squad player in the type of United team fans want to see. The solution to getting that is bigger than Fellaini and where he's in the squad or even starting 11 any particular day.
I do think Moyes was harshly treated. That isn't to say he didn't make mistakes (clearing out the backroom, for example), but he only was given about 9 months (and even then, is in maybe the top 5 United Managers of all time for win %, and despite being given far less backing that LVG or Moaniho have enjoyed).
Fellaini has made a grand contribution of averaging 4 goals a season. A goal doesn't mask his limitations in general and his display yesterday.
Currently in the running for POTS - depressing in a way
No he's not.