Loublaze
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Great finish today but my oh my he was terrible throughout the game.
I went looking. He hasn’t scored as many winners as we all think, I was surprised. Though a lot of his goals were important in the context of the game.Bit unfair that last bit. Since Sir Alex retired I can't recall any other player that has scored more of our goals in 1-0 wins. Must be a half dozen now.
I went looking. He hasn’t scored as many winners as we all think, I was surprised. Though a lot of his goals were important in the context of the game.
Its a real mystery why that is so mate. Proper head scratcher.So , when Messi or CR7 have a shit game , but score the winner , this is world class , but when our Fella does it ...
I’m with you actually. There’s a decent number of players I’m annoyed by before we get to Fellaini. He’s got bigger balls than mostRoger that. Whatever the specific numbers are, my immediate thought of Fellaini on our team doesn't make me cringe like many here. Those goals, route one they may be, elicit good memories of winning so that's part of it. The other is just the desire. We've got so many players I don't see playing with desire that I'm latching onto anyone that does. Id probably be all about even , say, Lee Cattermole tbh because at least he'd try and get the team going.
Guess it's a bleak positivity .
I think this is probably the most accurate assessment we can manage. Well saidI like Fellaini, but I'm getting seriously tired of him being played in a normal midfield position. He's a role-player, not an actual midfielder. If you want someone to sit deep and really protect the defenders, he can do that as he showed in those two games earlier in the season. If you want someone to man-mark an opposition danger-man, he can do that (although Herrera is probably better). If you want someone you can bring on in the last 20-30 minutes and really change the game (either offensively or defensively), he's the man.
Give him a specific role to fill and he's generally good at it. But just putting him in the midfield and expecting things to work out? No. Just no.
Credit to him for scoring the winner, but otherwise he was terrible today.
I think we really miss a trick when Giroud left Arsenal and we let him joined Chelsea without putting up a fight. Then we spent the next season moaning about we have no one to hold up and bring others to play as well as Ibrahimovic...He's a unselfish player who can bring down the ball and hold it well. Why not make full use of it?
----------------Fellaini-------------
---Martial------------------Sanchez
He can bring in Martial and Sanchez into play like Giroud does for Chelsea
Its a real mystery why that is so mate. Proper head scratcher.
It’s funny but true at the same time.This sounds really bad, and I’m sorry, but I actually kinda, but also genuinely hate everyone in this thread that’s trying to be positive and complimentary. I mean, I’m sure you’re all very nice, and look after your mums, but seriously, feck you all. I’ve absolutely no idea what planet you live on, but I hope it explodes.
We’re a dead club walking for as long as this thread remains relevant.
FELLAINI GOALS FOR UNITED
As a few people have wondered “how many times has Fellaini rescued us?” I went looking through the goals he’s scored for us.
This season:
Last minute winner tonight, and a 95th minute equaliser against Derby in the League Cup to send it to penalties (we lost on penalties but Fellaini scored his). Fellaini was a substitute.
2017/18
Scores the second (I think) in a 2-0 win at home to Leicester in what was a game we dominated. Probably offside. Substitute again.
Scores the first in a 3-0 win v Basel when we were still good.
Scores the second and third in a 4-0 win v Palace.
Heads a 91st minute winner against Arsenal in a 2-1 win. Again a substitute. Hit the post shortly before scoring.
(Also scored the equaliser in Belgium’s 3-2 comeback against Japan...as a substitute).
2016/17
Scores the second in the 87th minute in a 2-0 win against Hull in the League Cup semi final first leg. We lose the second leg 2-1 and go through on aggregate. Again a substitute
Scores the first in a 4-0 FA Cup win v Wigan.
Scores the first in a 3-1 win at Boro.
Scores our goal in a 1-1 draw with Celta Vigo in the second leg of the Europa League. Puts us 2-0 up on aggregate and ultimately the goal that sends us through.
2015/2016
Scores the third in a 3-1 win at home to Brugges in the 90th minute. Basically guarantees our progress into CL group stages. Substitute.
Scores the equaliser in a 2-1 defeat at Bournemouth.
Scores to put us 2-0 up in an FA Cup quarter final replay against West Ham. We win 2-1.
Scores to put us 1-0 up in FA Cup semi final against Everton. We win 2-1.
2014/15
Scores the first equaliser in a 2-2 draw at WBA. Substitute! First indication he might be alright for us actually.
Scores the first in a 2-1 win at home to Stoke.
Scores the first in a 2-0 win at QPR. Substitute.
Puts us 2-1 up in a 3-1 comeback at Preston in the FA Cup.
Scores the first in a 3-0 win at home to Spurs.
Puts us 2-1 up in a 4-2 win at home to City. His finest hour (?) as he crushes Yaya.
78th minute winner in a 2-1 win at Palace, think this guaranteed a top 4 finish.
2013/14
Dribbles the ball out for a throw in against Bayern Munich.
He was fecking useless all game, no way did he deserve to score the winner
I think we really miss a trick when Giroud left Arsenal and we let him joined Chelsea without putting up a fight. Then we spent the next season moaning about we have no one to hold up and bring others to play as well as Ibrahimovic...
Strange. People complain about we don't have someone taking the game by the scruff of its neck and actually deliver in big moments. Fellaini scored the goal that sealed our ticket to next round in the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE. Yet all these people are slating him off? Bizarre!
Completely agree. Give him a “free rôle” and he’s terrible; a specific one (and he can do several) and he’s a match winner.I like Fellaini, but I'm getting seriously tired of him being played in a normal midfield position. He's a role-player, not an actual midfielder. If you want someone to sit deep and really protect the defenders, he can do that as he showed in those two games earlier in the season. If you want someone to man-mark an opposition danger-man, he can do that (although Herrera is probably better). If you want someone you can bring on in the last 20-30 minutes and really change the game (either offensively or defensively), he's the man.
Give him a specific role to fill and he's generally good at it. But just putting him in the midfield and expecting things to work out? No. Just no.
Credit to him for scoring the winner, but otherwise he was terrible today.
Doesn't include this season. Skip to 0:27 for the best bit of commentary you'll hear.
Only on the Caf you would see someone claiming that a player did not deserve to score a winner. Poor Felli can't catch a break.
Here I'm gonna say it : he has been our best signing post Fergie and the one who gave us the most in these boring years.
He really hasn't. Also, Fellaini, and our other limited players (and limited managers), are the reason why these years have been boring.
It depends what you mean by underrated, he's not the donkey some will have you believe but he's very obviously not good enough for a team with United's aspirations. Like a lot of players he's effective when we base our entire game round him, the biggest problem for United is that we should never have to resort to Fellaini at all, we should have a Plan A good enough to beat a team like Young Boys 4-0. Fellaini isn't a bad player by any means but he encourages the football that infuriates the average United fan, no one wants to see us sit there struggling for creativity all night and just resorting to hoofing the ball up to him, sometimes it works but a lot less than you think.Fellaini has been extremely underrated for a while. I said it when he was bought, but he is not a defensive midfielder for me, get him in and around the box and he is an extremely effective player.