I would be tempted to keep him over Herrera. I think Fellaini offers a threat from set pieces. Herrera doesnt offer much IMO. Hes not a Verratti, hes not a Pogba, hes not an outright 10. We could maybe try him as a DM, but hes not tall enough. Hes versatile in all those positions but not an expert. I suppose there is no harm in keeping him in case we get injuries. But Van Gaal picking Rooney instead of him in MF says a lot.
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I would be tempted to keep him over Herrera. I think Fellaini offers a threat from set pieces. Herrera doesnt offer much IMO. Hes not a Verratti, hes not a Pogba, hes not an outright 10. We could maybe try him as a DM, but hes not tall enough. Hes versatile in all those positions but not an expert. I suppose there is no harm in keeping him in case we get injuries. But Van Gaal picking Rooney instead of him in MF says a lot.
Will be very surprised if Fellaini leaves, unless he doesn't want to be a squad player. He said he would stay and he hasn't been linked with a move at all. He's a good squad option
Realistically speaking we are likely going to be running with a two man midfield throughout the season.
We have Pogba, Herrera, Fellaini, and Bastian as our box to box/CM midfield options, and Carrick and Schneiderlin as our holding midfielders\ deep lying playmakers.
Unfortunately I don't think we can continue with all four of those options at CM and we are probably going to need to cut our losses with at a least two of those players. Bastian is likely going to be one seeing as he is much slower and way too injury prone. Fellaini is a serviceable backup option , seeing as he has had two slightly above average seasons with us, but Herrera offers a lot more overall as a player.
We have Pogba, Herrera, Fellaini, and Bastian as our box to box/CM midfield options, and Carrick and Schneiderlin as our holding midfielders\ deep lying playmakers.
Unfortunately I don't think we can continue with all four of those options at CM and we are probably going to need to cut our losses with at a least two of those players. Bastian is likely going to be one seeing as he is much slower and way too injury prone. Fellaini is a serviceable backup option , seeing as he has had two slightly above average seasons with us, but Herrera offers a lot more overall as a player.
Not sure I'd agree with that last sentence. Think Fellaini would have done much better than Herrera in that game against West Ham.
Excuse me but Herrera has been shit for over a year. Over the last two seasons Fellaini has been better for us than Ander.
Has been linked to a move to Sunderland. He'd be a hit there obviously and with all the money in the PL we should be able to recoup at least £25m.
Has been linked to a move to Sunderland. He'd be a hit there obviously and with all the money in the PL we should be able to recoup at least £25m.
He's not leaving, yesterday Mourinho said "I wouldn't be giving players minutes if they weren't in my plans."
Says that Herrera wasn't having a good year and Van Gaals restrictive football wasn't helping him either?
Herrera still offers a far more complete game than Fellaini does.
He wasn't anywhere near Anders quality in his first year under Van Gaal here.
He offers close to nothing in a double #6 as shown last season.
If we want to get the most out of Ander like we did in his first season, we have to switch to 4141 we played then, or a new 433.
Jose said more or less same about Mata and then Sold him in Jan.
I don't even like Fellaini, but judging from actual performances Herrera should go before him.
Still think he's a decent option, whether bench/rotation. I would hang onto him for one more season whilst we have the Europa League. Thought he played well in the FA Cup too so I'm sure there's some role for him if we keep him.
He's hardly going to say that X is unwanted, we already have enough issues selling players as it is.
Apparently he was talking about moving on from the Dortmund game, he posted a photo of the team with the caption saying something along the lines of "If you failed yesterday, you have the opportunity to try again today"
So has half the team under LVG. Also Fellaini in that role has been poor.
Fellaini epitomises everything that went wrong with our club over the last few years. Panic buy, overpriced, huge wages, one of Moyes boys and and a general inability to play decent football.
He is an effective option but that is all he ever can be for us. I agree he's been better than Herrera over the last year, but if I could pick a style of play for us it would lend itself more to Herrera's best than Fellaini's best.
He is an effective option but that is all he ever can be for us. I agree he's been better than Herrera over the last year, but if I could pick a style of play for us it would lend itself more to Herrera's best than Fellaini's best.
What style is that? At the end of the day most managers keep players who work harder and are more effective for the team. Fellaini gives his 100% and has a passion for the club. He is also a decent level footballer (not world class by any means but not good for nothing like many including you seem to suggest). We have never resorted to playing long ball football or whatever either save the last few minutes of a few games when we needed a goal. There's no style difference in their games. Herrera concedes just as many fouls if not more.
But he's already told the players he doesn't want for the forthcoming season to leave and those players were left at Carrington, I.e BFS.
When we played our best football under LvG so basically in the last three years both of them were on the pitch. So how does your post make sense in this context?
Maybe they're equal judging by their time at United but I would say Fellaini has done more.
No. He doesn't. What was that stat that Fellaini makes something like 0.9 successful tackles per foul? That's one of the main differences in their game.
The style where a midfielder can control and pass and then move it quickly and preferably forwards. Fellaini needs 2 touches to control most passes. Completely slows us down. He's not the only one, and I'm not really defending Herrera against him.
I also never said Fellaini is good for nothing, nor did I suggest it. He is an effective option, like I said.
He's just not a midfielder I'd ever have wanted at United. I like his passion and fight, he probably can't believe he's on 100k p/w playing for Man Utd. I'd run my heart out for that as well.
What? I said Fellaini has been better than Herrera. I don't think I understand your point.
Should have put it differently, Herrera gives away freekicks in dangerous positions quite often. Fellaini's most fouls are in relatively safer areas.
Fellaini doesn't slow us any more than Herrera does. Herrera makes passes backwards or sideways. In fact Fellaini would pass the ball forward more than Schneiderlin or Herrera. Guys like cleverley has had worse games than Fellaini.
You said in your previous post he can't play decent football which isn't true at all. Like another poster said he was an integral part of our best run in 2 seasons.
Let me ask you a couple of questions? Has Fellaini improved us? Are you happy with Fellaini as a starter in our team?
That doesn't include the word 'seguir' which has probably been missed as it's tacked on the end of Valencia's handle for some reason.
'seguir adelante' means 'to keep/continue moving forwards'
Sounds like the usual generic, motivational crap posted by the players after any game. I guess he's tagged Fellaini in it because he provided him with the assist.
I think he's a lot more popular in the dressing room than we imagine. His and Mourinhos characters may mesh pretty well.
There are very few players who have actually improved us. Fellaini frankly hasn't had any less impact than most other signings we bought in the last 3 years. Has Herrera improved us? Has mata? Has schweini? Has Phil Jones?
I don't want Fellaini to start but I have no problem accepting he has played well . I don't cloud judgement over stuff like he is a Moyes signing
No none of those players have improved us. Very few have recently.
And the fact Motes signed him hasn't clouded my judgement. His inability to control a football with his feet made up my mind on him.
I said earlier I'm not here to compare him to other players who have underperformed for us. What's the point in that? If we have aspirations to be the best club in the world, which I hope we all do, then Fellaini belongs no where near our team. He wouldn't be signed by any of the top teams in world football.
Fellaini has wanted to move for the past two summers. Last year LVG blocked a move and the year before, he got injured. It won't surprise me if its Fellaini that is pushing to leave.
That's just the kind of crap. He can't control a football. That's just a step short of calling him good for nothing. Which again he isn't
No club in the world has 22 world class options. When we were in a CL final, we had Michael Owen at possibly his worst in the squad. Leicester had Nathan dyer in the team. And so on. To win titles you need a team which work efficiently rather than 22 big names. Fellaini even by your early post is effective so I don't understand what do you mean by he won't be in the squad if we are a world class team? Even Messi Neymar and Suarez once they get injured have average players as back up to them. No one has a bench of world class players.
I compared the players because you compared the players and said you prefer Herrera over Fellaini.
If you think Fellaini played better and is effective then why else do you prefer someone else? Jasmine because you contradict yourself . How else can someone who can't 'control a football' be effective enough for 3 different managers (LvG Moyes and supposedly mourinho)?
Moyes has confirmed he wants Fellaini and Januzaj.
I'd let them have Januzaj. But we should keep Fellaini.
He is that player who you'd back to score against our already suspect defence. I do think Fellaini is a decent squad player people will disagree but he is better than that lightweight Herrera. Aerial threat of Fellaini is good asset to have around.
I'd let them have Januzaj. But we should keep Fellaini.
He is that player who you'd back to score against our already suspect defence. I do think Fellaini is a decent squad player people will disagree but he is better than that lightweight Herrera. Aerial threat of Fellaini is good asset to have around.
I'd get rid of him if it means it'll give us the funds to bring someone else in. Otherwise we need him for the depth.
Maybe Fellaini may want to switch himself instead of us wanting to get rid. He was given the big breaks in his career by Moyes and he might prefer working with him in the first team at Sunderland as opposed to being a squad player at United. And let's be honest, the fans haven't exactly showered love at him in his time here.
If we don't sell Fellaini this summer, his value will plummet cause I doubt we would offer him a new deal.
Moyes, as daft as it sounds, might just be the manager Januzaj leaves.
Moyes, as daft as it sounds, might just be the manager Januzaj leaves.
He needs to leave. We don't require his so called specialist skills sets and he's not good enough except for very unique situations. I'd rather keep Pereira or TFM ahead of him given that he will never be in the starting XI. Moyes, LvG and Wilmots couldn't make him work for them in the last 4 years and they for sacked. If he had any sense, move to Sunderland cos the new Belgium manager would not be so eager to include him in the national side given limited game time here.
C'mon Moyesy!
What he actually said is apparently "the calibre of Fellaini is beyond our budget at the moment." Usual stirred up headlines from it though I'd imagine.
Give @Devil may care a break. He's already missed out in the Polish DM that went to PSG. Can't spell his name. Lol
He'd be a great buy for Sunderland. Can't see why he would want to go there though.
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