His years at Everton count for nothing. He has a few decent games against us, but that's it. The lad is dirt.
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His years at Everton count for nothing. He has a few decent games against us, but that's it. The lad is dirt.
Must have been watching a different game because I didn't see that.
Absolute bullshit.
And the revisionism in this thread is hilarious, of course he was one of our best players last season, just like Herrera was. Now both faded into absolute shitness and it's just one of them getting constant flack which is pretty fun to watch.
Best thing is, we won't sell him this window, we probably won't sell him in the summer and he'll still start plenty of games. Enjoy the show.
For much of the season was about half a dozen games at best, four of which he played well in, you couldn't show more blatant biased revisionism if you tried. Other than those games there were some other average and good games but there were more where he was poor or awful. Overall it was an average season, he didn't even get an assist, first season and this season he has been awful, you can dress it up as much as you like but it's true and all he is doing this season is ensuring he gets sold.
So, let me get this straight. Not only is he not good enough for United (which is fair enough despite him being one of our best players in several of our big games last season which is now conveniently ignored), he's also not premier league quality and he wouldn't even get into the better Championship. Complete and utter drivel.
Quite possibly the worst post in this thread which says something given the general standard of this thread.
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He didnt play that badly last night. He was much better than Mata and Herrera. He got into good positions and didnt give away many fouls and even passed well. Some comments are way over the top. However, I dont see him in our plans. Him moving would be best for everyone i guess
It happened a couple of times yesterday but it was more of a general observation.
Just let him go to Milan and throw perreria in feck it
I am not a fan of his but to be fair he was OK last night, I think most fans are dreaming of the United of old, remember ? The one that blitzed teams for 90 minutes (+Fergie time) he certainly would'nt get in an 'all time best XI' but at least he plays for the team which sadly some don't
Him being rated below Herrera and Mata yesterday is ridiculous.
Fellaini is such a handful to play against when he's utilised properly. I honeslty think we're using him wrongly and not playing to his strengths.
We saw that when he was playing for Everton, but also over the last few years for Belgium where he has been one of their key, and most influential players even ahead of the likes of Hazard, De Bruyne and Lukaku.
We saw that when he was playing for Everton, but also over the last few years for Belgium where he has been one of their key, and most influential players even ahead of the likes of Hazard, De Bruyne and Lukaku.
Wish we'd go back to last season's 4-1-4-1 which was so effective with Fellaini and Herrera as attacking midfielders linking up with either Memphis/Young or Mata/Lingard on the wings.
Our little triangles were so good!
Our little triangles were so good!
Very good performances at DM, lord have mercy.
Fellaini went on a good run of matches, which pretty much started after a shit match against Arsenal in the FA cup, he was important against Tottenham, Liverpool and Manchester City. In there was a shit match against Aston Villa.
Chelsea completely nullified him, he was rubbish against Everton, horrible against West Brom, poor against Crystal Palace but scored the curcial winner. Useless against Arsenal and not sure what to say about his performance against Hull.
In our first games against Chelsea and City he played at DM. MotM again Chelsea, 2nd highest against City (when Smalling got sent off). This came after coming on for basically his first appearance of the season the previous week against West Ham (?) where he scored the winner for us.
During this period in the first half of the season he went on a subsequent run in the team and was comfortably one of our best players. This is before Christmas. Dont believe me? Go read the match threads or some of the fellaini related threads for that period. Or alternatelt keep your head in the sand and keep spouting the same tripe as half of the caf.
Of course all this can be quickly brushed under the rug because "HES SHIT REALLLY
LOLOL", right?This is definitely the best system we've had under Van Gaal. Bizarre that he decided to abandon it after having his only genuinely impressive spell using that formation.
Feel bad for him.
Scholes was bang on yesterday, the mans game is to be a target in the oppositions.
Moyes & LVG are both playing him as a fecking central midfielder.
Scholes was bang on yesterday, the mans game is to be a target in the oppositions.
Moyes & LVG are both playing him as a fecking central midfielder.
Yeah. Probably Fellainis biggest weakness is his lack of positional discipline. I do think he is under instruction to get forward regularly, but it was much more balanced last year with the 4-3-3 when he had a dedicated holding midfielder behind him, allowing Fellaini to operate more freely, closing down defenders, getting forward and basically playing box to box. Same applies to Herrera.
Similarly when he was deployed as a DM, it was more of a man marking job than a true holding midfield role that he was in.
In our first games against Chelsea and City he played at DM. MotM again Chelsea, 2nd highest against City (when Smalling got sent off). This came after coming on for basically his first appearance of the season the previous week against West Ham (?) where he scored the winner for us.
During this period in the first half of the season he went on a subsequent run in the team and was comfortably one of our best players. This is before Christmas. Dont believe me? Go read the match threads or some of the fellaini related threads for that period. Or alternatelt keep your head in the sand and keep spouting the same tripe as half of the caf.
Of course all this can be quickly brushed under the rug because "HES SHIT REALLLY
No, he didn't play defensive midfield against Chelsea. Daley Blind was the holding midfielder, with Fellaini being the one with freedom to go forward. Same against City. And no, he didn't score the winner for us against West Ham the week before the Chelsea match, he scored the 1-1 goal against West Bromwich.
You can't even get the basics right...Which pretty much explains the rest of your gobshite.
He's a £30mill bog brush.
Chasing down
The only thing he has ever chased down, is the ball he ran over the sideline against Bayern
In general, Fellaini struggles when it comes to keeping pressure on opponents, that combined with his positional deficiency makes him pretty much as useless as it gets as a central midfielder with the slightest defensive responsibility. His overview and passing ability isn't exactly an impressive feature either.
Forking out close to £30mill for an Everton player like Fellaini, lord have mercy. They are still laughing...
Against Chelsea he won MotM and his main job was shackling Fabregas - this being at a time when Chelsea were rampant and free-scoring.
Against City he was again one of our best players.
Against West Brom he came on and scored - whether it was the winner or securing the draw is largely irrelevant and just another attempt to try to downplay his impact.
Your second post clearly shows the level of delusion and bias you have (like numerous others on here), I imagine you were one of the same cretins booing him in preseason that year (another time when he came off the bench and scored a vital goal).
£27.5mill.
You can't even get the basics right...Which pretty much explains the rest of your gobshite.
If an offer comes in for him in the January window, the club should bite their hand off. This is coming for someone who rates the guy, but he's not right for this club.
Diego Costa was out injured so they had to start with Drogba (who did score). Man marking an opposition player isn't the same as being a defensive midfielder. People are still wanking off to Phil Jones man marking Cristiano Ronaldo...
Best players is an overstatement, which is being used to make it sound like a player has performed better, when the truth is that as a team we played mediocre and it was an mediocre season overall. Did Fellaini stand out as a good player or as a bad player, no.
The point wasn't that he didn't come on and score, the point was that your claim about opponent and result was incorrect.
I don't boo him. I'd love for him to improve as a player and show that he's worth the insane amount of money we forked out for him. But i'm realistic, and Fellaini isn't anywhere close to being good enough for a top club.
We never should've signed him. People are still going on about one performance he had for Everton against us, when we allowed him to roam between midfield and defence. Next time we met Everton we had Tom Cleverley and Anderson run rings around him..Players have decent performances against us from time to time, it happens.
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I assume he gets paid like the rest of the players.
That's rich coming from you.
Oxymoron much? Walrus will be telling his grandchildren about Fellaini's 3 game purple patch of 2015.
He's more a symbol of the problem than the problem itself. Play him up front and we end up almost exclusively targeting him, which is obvious and easy to defend. Play him as a defensive mid and we end up with isolated attackers. The 4-1-4-1 really was the best use of his size and strength to the team's benefit without reducing him to simply just a crossing target.
Paint it however you wish, he was MotM, and when Fellaini wins MotM even on bloody Redcafe then you know he played well.
Most unbiased sources will say that yes, Fellaini did stand out as one of our best players. This is because we played much better with him in the team than out of it, our results reflected that for the vast majority of the season, and he was usually integral to our best performances. If memory serves, when he was out of the team due to injury around Christmas time we failed to score for three games.
I cant really be bothered to make a big list of links here, but one typical example from last season from this thread is https://www.redcafe.net/threads/marouane-fellaini-2014-15-performances.394651/page-142#post-17351810 - the game against Man City in April (which was apparently when he was shit again according to some)
Well thats a bit of a stupid point. I even put a "?" after West Ham because I couldnt remember whether it was them or another team (ie WBA), and the point was that he came on and scored.
I dont think it is a case of "never should have signed him" but rather that the circumstances around his transfer were ludicrous for several reasons -
*We desperately needed a midfield revamp, and it was fairly obvious that Fellaini was never going to be the answer to that.
*We overpaid, especially when considering his release clause.
*He was bought from Moyes' old club, which straight away riled some fans who were concerned that he was trying to turn us into Everton.
We needed other midfielders that summer, not [just] Fellaini - but it is unfair to hold this against Fellaini, which is what many fans seem to do. Re: his performances at Everton though, you are way off the mark and most actual Everton fans will tell you that he was consistently one of their best players over several years, including time as a CM and as a #10. I hope @SilentWitness and @BigDunc9 dont mind me tagging them here to maybe share their thoughts in this area.
Well, i'd prefer to paint the correct picture. Your claim was that he had a man of the match performance playing as a defensive midfielder. Considering he's never had a solid match as a defensive midfielder for us, probably not even close to a good performance, i'd say it's pretty far off the wall to claim he delivered a man of the match performance as a DM..
Not entirely sure about the insane focus on a man of the match performance (voted by Redcafe members nonetheless) either, the claim isn't that he's never played a good match, the claim is that overall he's not good enough for us. We'll probably be able to dig up a man of the match performance by Kleberson, maybe Djemba Djemba as well. Pop the fecking champagne.
Most unbiased sources
...Considering the amount of matches he was involved in, he's bound to be involved in nice wins, lucky wins, bad losses, losses we didn't deserve and so on. He had three matches where he stood out and played consistently well, that's the three matches at the end of the season against Tottenham, City and Liverpool. He was certainly involved when we got dominated against Chelsea, dominated by Everton, dominated by Southampton, Swansea. He was involved in 7/8 league defeats. It's probably easy to find someone that wasn't involved in the big defeats, but who was involved in the decent wins, and paint a picture that said player was integral to our good performances.
The point is that you always seem to overdo things. Coming on to score a winner against West Ham certainly sounds a bit more nice than coming on and scoring the 1-1 goal in a 2-2 draw (where Blind scored the equaliser at the end of the match) against WBA
It had nothing to do with who he was purchased from, or the theory that he was turning us into Everton, the issue was that Fellaini wasn't someone we needed.
We didn't need Fellaini, at all.
It's mint that he was one of their best players over several years. Good for him. Doesn't make him good enough for us, doesn't make him an important signing for us, doesn't improve his performances for us.
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He is not a United player, get rid as soon as possible, he is the residual left after gollum and is a reminder of that shite.
No revisionism with me. Never wanted him at Utd, still don't. If you think he would get a sniff at any other top team in Europe, you're as delusional as Van Gaal.
Umm, probably goes something like "thanks for the dough suckers"?
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So, let me get this straight. Not only is he not good enough for United (which is fair enough despite him being one of our best players in several of our big games last season which is now conveniently ignored), he's also not premier league quality and he wouldn't even get into the better Championship. Complete and utter drivel.
Quite possibly the worst post in this thread which says something given the general standard of this thread.
You are just trying to play the good guy here. Please tell me how Fellaini fit into or transform any club in the PL or at the top of the championship? You want to use the 4 game run that he was decent in, have you considered the next 3 games after? He was as bad as I have ever seen a PL player.
No he wouldn't, I never said that but that doesn't in any way erase what he's done last season. If you can't tell the difference between the two you're as delusional as LVG.
He's never, ever, really looked like he belongs here. He has his defenders on here but I don't think many of them would complain much if he handed in a transfer request to Milan tomorrow.
Good guy? I don't care about Fellaini and couldn't care less if he got sold tomorrow. But anyone suggesting that he's not PL quality needs to get their head checked. He was a very good player for an Everton side that regularly competed for a top spot.. And it was more than just 4 games btw.
He scored 6 goals last season and was par for the course but his followers want to make it seem like he had a great season. He'd probably be more suited to another team and im pretty sure he's not happy with his playing time especially after what Marc Wilmots said about players without minutes being an 'annoyance'.
I'd probably sell him in the summer because you'd want someone more gifted coming off the bench at a club like Manchester United. But he's not really that big a part of the problem given he's not a first choice starter which is where our problems lie. Fellaini only becomes this giant issue when he's backup to a rubbish attack.
Newcastle 3:3 Man Utd
Should never play as a DM. Ponderous, slow on the ball, gives fouls and the ball away. Shades of why he got so much stick under Moyes. Needs to play further up the pitch.
Also integral in our goal
4 fouls in 23 mins
He's a juggernaut at aerial balls. Sam Allardyce would love him at centre back.
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