Marouane Fellaini image 27

Marouane Fellaini Belgium flag

2015-16 Performances


View full 2015-16 profile

5.1 Season Average Rating
Appearances
33
Goals
4
Assists
1
Yellow cards
6
Status
Not open for further replies.
May I remind you of this?
So we just shut the gate, the guy is shit? I am all for discussing a player properly, but there are certain myths that just aren't true. Like how he's a plan b hoofball expert, he's much better when deployed as a proper footballer at wide 10. Frankly he's been awful almost every time we've played hoofball with him.

Even his Brugges goal was a layoff and rush into the box. That doesn't mean that is the only way to use him and he suddenly becomes a crap footballer.

I'm with the above as well who posted that there is no room for him at the moment in this seasons 4-2-3-1 unless there are injuries at 10 and 8.
 
Last edited:
So we just shut the gate, the guy is shit?
I'd be perfectly fine with this, as it would mean that standards have improved to where his services aren't necessary unlike last season. If Fellaini is getting many minutes, that means something isn't going right. I'm sure he'll get his opportunities in the odd cup game and maybe as a Plan C in certain situations.
 
I'd be perfectly fine with this, as it would mean that standards have improved to where his services aren't necessary unlike last season. If Fellaini is getting many minutes, that means something isn't going right. I'm sure he'll get his opportunities in the odd cup game and maybe as a Plan C in certain situations.
I think he is a more than capable footballer when we aren't resorting to hoofball, fair enough if you're willing to write him off. I think it is a bit harsh.
 
Even his Brugges goal was a layoff and rush into the box. That doesn't mean that is the only way to use him and he suddenly becomes a crap footballer.
He's always been a low level to mid level player. People defend him because he's willing to work hard but today the fecker couldn't even be bothered to put in a shift. Lumbering around in midfield, cant be bothered to run. Breaking up our own attacks with his piss poor touches and abysmal passing.

If we don't have anyone else I don't mind him on the team sheet. But we have bright young talents like Wilson and Pereira in the squad. Why give Fellaini chances ahead of them?. Its not as if he's in top form. The minutes given to him could've been valuable first team time for the kids.

We cant afford passengers in our campaign, and anything other than top form, he is a passenger and a liability.
 
He's always been a low level to mid level player. People defend him because he's willing to work hard but today the fecker couldn't even be bothered to put in a shift. Lumbering around in midfield cant be bothered to run. Breaking up our own attacks with his piss poor touches and abysmal passing.

If we don't have anyone else I don't mind him on the team sheet. But we have bright young talents like Wilson and Pereira in the squad. Why give Fellaini chances ahead of them?. Its not as if he's in top form. The minutes given to him could've been valuable first team time for the kids.

We cant afford passengers in our campaign, and anything other than top form, he is a passenger and a liability.

You're literally seeing what you want to see.
 
He's always been a low level to mid level player. People defend him because he's willing to work hard but today the fecker couldn't even be bothered to put in a shift. Lumbering around in midfield cant be bothered to run. Breaking up our own attacks with his piss poor touches and abysmal passing.
He put in a fair few shifts last season and a couple that won us points. I think he's a lot better footballer than he is being given credit for here with these arguments. He's not Michael Ballack but he's not completely shit.
 
He was instrumental in our best run of form in the whole of last season, in which he did a lot more than just win headers and show off his chest control. He's clearly a decent footballer on his day. He's had a slow start to this season but - as usual - people are being far too hasty to completely write off a player after a handful of mediocre performances.
 
He was instrumental in our best run of form in the whole of last season, in which he did a lot more than just win headers and show off his chest control. He's clearly a decent footballer on his day. He's had a slow start to this season but - as usual - people are being far too hasty to completely write off a player after a handful of mediocre performances.
Exactly, he's not a brilliant footballer that we drop everything and build around but he is definitely a lot better than what some of these arguments being presented make out. Some as though he can barely play at all.
 
He put in a fair few shifts last season and a couple that won us points. I think he's a lot better footballer than he is being given credit for here with these arguments. He's not Michael Ballack but he's not completely shit.
He can put in good performances when he's in top form, but that is very rare. At the moment he's in piss poor form. So I think the kids should get the nod ahead of him.

His skills on the ball are absolutely mediocre mate.
 
I think the stick Fellaini gets is a little unfair. He hasn't played well this season but he was banned for the first few games so has no match sharpness, he is played here there and everywhere and hasn't had a run in the team. He hasn't suddenly become completely useless over night. People cant just disregard how good he was in an attacking midfield role for us last season along side Herrera . If he is played in a 4-3-3 with 1 DM behind and a 2 box to box/attacking midfielders, him being one of them then he is a good player. Anywhere else hes not so good and looks a bit lost at times.
 
People mocked his attempt to run through the defense but he won it back, passed it to Bastian and the rest is history. Didn't have a pre season and I think we've also kinda shifted his position. He's going to be raw at times, but a valuable member of the squad. Scored an important goal in Champions League qualifier of course but some people think you need world class through out the squad. Bullshit.
 
He can put in good performances when he's in top form, but that is very rare. At the moment he's in piss poor form. So I think the kids should get the nod ahead of him.

His skills on the ball are absolutely mediocre mate.
What kids though? Perreira and Lingard? Obviously I don't want him playing striker I think he's completely pointless as a striker so that argument is moot. But mediocre, maybe but I still think is harsh.
 
What kids though? Perreira and Lingard? Obviously I don't want him playing striker I think he's completely pointless as a striker so that argument is moot. But mediocre, maybe but I still think is harsh.
I already mention which kids in my previous posts. Yes, Wilson, Pereira, Lingard, or Goss, or our other upcoming talents. They need games. And giving minutes to Fellaini when he's not in top form is absolutely pointless.
 
Last edited:
I saw his performances against PSV, Swansea, and tonight. Have I missed something? Has he been brilliant in any of those?

No, and he wasn't full of 'piss poor touches' and 'abysmal passing' like you're suggesting either. You know that you don't have to go into extremes, right? There's a field inbetween those two called 'average' that perfectly describes him and most of our players in those games.
 
He will be our plan B and that's about it. 5th choice midfielder, 3rd or 4th choice no.10, 3rd or 4th choice striker under our current system. The less he play the better football we play. Yet we don't always play good football so getting him on as sub when things not working could be a good option to make.
 
He's had a slow start to this season but - as usual - people are being far too hasty to completely write off a player after a handful of mediocre performances.
Or they've seen Fellaini at his best, and realize now we simply have better options. Also to get the best out of him, requires us to play in a way most United fans would rather not see.
 
No, and he wasn't full of 'piss poor touches' and 'abysmal passing' like you're suggesting either. You know that you don't have to go into extremes, right? There's a field inbetween those two called 'average' that perfectly describes him and most of our players in those games.
If a player cant even pass a ball to other player who's less than 5 yards from him, is that not piss poor by any standard? Am I supposed to call that average?
 
Or they've seen Fellaini at his best, and realize now we simply have better options. Also to get the best out of him, requires us to play in a way most United fans would rather not see.
Who doesn't want to see 4-3-3? That run of games last season is always referenced to how well we are doing as a unit and he was playing that 10 role really effectively. Also what better options do we have at 10? Rooney, Depay, Januzaj (on loan) and Mata have all been various types of poor there. Perreira has had one game on the left against a championship outfit.

I think the 10 is still very much up for grabs. 4-2-3-1 suits Rooney/Mata, 4-3-3 suits Fellaini but that requires the midfield reshuffle that not many will want to see. Effectively if we are without BFS and Carrick for any extended period of time is really the only way we'll go back to a system that suits Fellani where we can set him up on the left holding up play and running into the box late in the move.
 
If a player cant even pass a ball to other player who's less than 5 yards from him, is that not piss poor? Am I supposed to call that average?

Please name all the times when he couldn't complete a 5 yard pass. Against PSV and Swansea that you mentioned he played around 28 minutes combined.
 
Who doesn't want to see 4-3-3? That run of games last season is always referenced to how well we are doing as a unit and he was playing that 10 role really effectively. Also what better options do we have at 10? Rooney, Depay, Januzaj (on loan) and Mata have all been various types of poor there. Perreira has had one game on the left against a championship outfit.

I think the 10 is still very much up for grabs. 4-2-3-1 suits Rooney/Mata, 4-3-3 suits Fellaini but that requires the midfield reshuffle that not many will want to see. Effectively if we are without BFS and Carrick for any extended period of time is really the only way we'll go back to a system that suits Fellani where we can set him up on the left holding up play and running into the box late in the move.
I'm one of the people who's adamant about switching back to 4-3-3 from last season. IMO that's the only system to use to get something out of Fellaini. In other system he's just a hindrance.
 
Or they've seen Fellaini at his best, and realize now we simply have better options. Also to get the best out of him, requires us to play in a way most United fans would rather not see.

Well I'd struggle to think of any game under Van Gaal I've enjoyed watching more than the wins over Spurs and City last season. Can you? Fellaini played in both those games.
 
Please name all the times when he couldn't complete a 5 yard pass. Against PSV and Swansea that you mentioned he played around 28 minutes combined.
How about last night? There were several occasions where Rooney was less than 5 yards away from him (at least to me), then Fellaini passed the ball so weakly it didn't even reach him. That was beyond embarrassing. Our counter attacks broke down because of him. I'm sorry but I cant excuse something as piss poor as that.
 
How about last night? There were several occasions where Rooney was less than 5 yards away from him (at least to me), then Fellaini passed the ball so weakly it didn't even reach him. That was beyond embarrassing. Our counter attacks broke down because of him. I'm sorry but I cant excuse something as piss poor as that.

I mean, seriously, name them, minutes, whatever, there's sadly no statistics centre for COC so I can't even check it. You're throwing a shitload of cliches like 'he can't pass' and other shit without being able to back it up anyhow. And no, 'to me' or 'just watch the game' doesn't really do you any justice.
 
_EGLZ9.gif


Not a bad first touch.
 
I mean, seriously, name them, minutes, whatever, there's sadly no statistics centre for COC so I can't even check it. You're throwing a shitload of cliches like 'he can't pass' and other shit without being able to back it up anyhow. And no, 'to me' or 'just watch the game' doesn't really do you any justice.
Well, if you weren't being observant enough that's not my fault is it? I dont need to throw a load of shit to say Fellaini is in piss poor form.

You want to see it? Just rewatch the match easy.
 
Well, if you weren't being observant enough that's not my fault is it? I dont need to throw a load of shit to say Fellaini is in piss poor form.

You want to see it? Just rewatch the match easy.

Oh, so it's me not being observant enough and not you with an agenda or seeing things how you want it, how convenient.

You're throwing load of shit already by the way, it's called bullshit though.
 
Oh, so it's me not being observant enough and not you with an agenda or seeing things how you want it, how convenient.

You're throwing load of shit already by the way, it's called bullshit though.
How about you accusing me having an agenda? Now that's convenient. :lol:

Refuse to admit you're ignorant eh?

Yeah, there's a load of shite around here, most of them came from you mate. :p
 
How about you accusing me having an agenda? Now that's convenient. :lol:

Refuse to admit you're ignorant eh?

Yeah, there's a load of shite around here, most of them came from you mate. :p

No, not really, it's not me coming to player's thread throwing load of cliches and bollocks without ability to back it up anyhow other than 'go watch the match'.
 
No, not really, it's not me coming to player's thread throwing load of cliches and bollocks without ability to back it up anyhow other than 'go watch the match'.
The evidence is in the game itself. If you want to see it, then go and rewatch it. Why are you having a go at me just because you missed moments in the game where your favourite player messed up?
 
Last edited:
Well I'd struggle to think of any game under Van Gaal I've enjoyed watching more than the wins over Spurs and City last season. Can you? Fellaini played in both those games.
Well, our current run since Martial joined (PSV withstanding) ain't so bad. Obviously not the same caliber of opponents, so it'd hardly bring the same joy that bigger wins would. That 4-5 game run last season starting with Tottenham at home was amazing. And tbf, Fellaini played his role very well. But, I do believe part of the reason for the fans' euphoria was putting up with watching almost two years of tumescent shit football.
 
Some of the Fellaini criticism reminds me of a spoiled rotten kid throwing a fit and calling a Christmas gift crap. No, he's not that precious Red Rider BB gun, but he'll do just fine in the squad.

For the life of me, I can't figure why it's such a big deal. When he hits good form, he'll be in the team. When it is best to play him (rotation, opponent, injuries, whatever) he'll play. LvG has options he just didn't last year, and the holdovers have another year of the system under their belt. We probably won't see hoofball like that again.

You will see him being a sticking point for 20+ yard passes, which is great now that United can field a team of players with a wide passing range. Blind's ball to Rooney v Ipswich comes to mind. It keeps the defense honest and creates space for the system to work. I won't be critical for stretches like last year, but there will be times when he comes on and does a job--maybe improves the team.

Fellaini and his periodic use is not going to drag United from its vaunted position to a low brow team. If we don't see more of last season's purple patch this year, maybe we can earnestly say the "attack, attack, attack" days are under threat--maybe the identity itself.

It's just a bit historic for me to treat Fellaini as the harbinger of doomsday boredome or to say he's a poor footballer. What he did at Everton alone makes that argument specious.

He's a squad player, and we are going to be fine.

Edit: I would hate to see United end up like Arsenal: a team of nearly identical, spineless technicians. Fellaini adds some grit and another skill set without being a totally blunt, one dimensional weapon like Andy Carroll.
 
Last edited:
Some absolute nonsense being spoken in here! Mainly by one poster in particular. No doubt Fellaini has struggled a bit so far this season but that's down to a variety of factors, and not being a good footballer is not one of them. He showed last season that he can play. The stuff that gets spouted about his passing and touch is just because he's over 6ft 4in and looks gangly. Obviously I am not saying he is Messi, but you do not play top flight football for seven years if you cannot control the ball. He is a decent player.

The shift in formation has clearly hampered him (and Herrera). So he is still adjusting to that, while missing the first three matches of the league this season. He was also ill before the PSV match so who knows if there are any after effects of that. Also, I think Van Gaal has hurt him by primarily using him for 'hoofball' this season. He's a batter player than that, and to be honest he seems more effective when we don't do that. Finally, when he was playing well last season it was definitely not a case of 'hoofball' - it was good attacking football which he was crucial too.
 
Lets be honest with ourselves: he'll be off in the Summer, which will spell the end for the last of the sub-par players that Van Gaal inherited. Can he be useful? Of course he can. However more often than not you have a player who just isn't talented enough to consistently contribute at the top level. If they haven't already, the likes of Januzaj/Pereira will have shown enough for our "plan B" not to be lumping it up to the big man. And if they haven't, then that'll be Van Gaal's next transfer target.

The fact that even as recently as this week he still believes his best position is in the centre of midfield is probably damning in itself; given that his abilities in front of goal (scoring headers and bringing the ball down in the final third) are the biggest qualities he's shown in the Premier League for Everton (12/13) and United (14/15). I certainly couldn't name the qualities that he possesses that make him suited to a box-to-box or holding midfield role.
 
No, and he wasn't full of 'piss poor touches' and 'abysmal passing' like you're suggesting either. You know that you don't have to go into extremes, right? There's a field inbetween those two called 'average' that perfectly describes him and most of our players in those games.

He's been a passenger bar the Brugges game where he scored. He's the last piece of deadwood LVG needs to get rid of. He's struggling to fit into the system at present. He's not a starter. I'd rather give minutes to Lingard and Perierra.
 
He was instrumental in our best run of form in the whole of last season, in which he did a lot more than just win headers and show off his chest control. He's clearly a decent footballer on his day. He's had a slow start to this season but - as usual - people are being far too hasty to completely write off a player after a handful of mediocre performances.
I don't always agree with you @Pogue Mahone, but I am with you on this on. Also agree with remarks made by @Kostur. These blithely disparaging and wildly over the top judgements might say more about the poster than they do about the player.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.