You just dont like Fellaini and you're going to extremes to point that up. That's all.You're desperate to find anything to bash him about.
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Yeah, he's a bit deceptive - he looks slow because his legs are so long but in each stride he's covering a lot more ground than the others.
He took his chance and deserves to stay in the team on merit. I think there is a way for us to benefit from his physicality and Ander's skills but it will have to be at Van Persie's expense. If I were Van Gaal I'd be looking more towards playing Rooney as a lone front man, playing a midfield three of Carrick-Fellaini-Herrera and possibly having the two of Di Maria and Mata floating between the lines. In my view playing them in a three would allow us to get the best of both worlds, cohesiveness from Herrera and the physical presence from Fellaini.
Just like we've gripped it against Leiester?
He was exactly what we needed today, a niggly antagonising sly nasty fecker that completely threw The meerkunt off his game
Apart from DDG, he was my motm yesterday. I never saw the transformation coming and I thought he was on his way out for sure. I don't think he lost a header today
Amazing that Wilshere headbutts felli and fellis hair is offside for a goal and that makes the headlines - switch the two around, wilshere a hair offside (and afterwards not even touching the ball) and fellaini headbutting wilshere... which makes the talking points?
Felli is a player people love to hate. People act like Robbo/ Keano/ Shearer etc weren't dirty f*ckers, they were and it's that that made them great players, if he wins us games like he did yesterday by being a big, distracting physical presence then I'm ok with that. I look forward to the big CL night vs a big european team playing fancy football, where fellaini, marked by 6 defenders and a gk, bundles the ball into the net from a hopeful ball with 20 seconds left for united to progress. There's no answer to how he plays, there's no tactics pep guardiola or jose mourinho can dream up to stop him just muscling their most imposing players and getting away with it
Felli is a red, rant over
Felli is a player people love to hate. People act like Robbo/ Keano/ Shearer etc weren't dirty f*ckers, they were and it's that that made them great players, if he wins us games like he did yesterday by being a big, distracting physical presence then I'm ok with that. I look forward to the big CL night vs a big european team playing fancy football, where fellaini, marked by 6 defenders and a gk, bundles the ball into the net from a hopeful ball with 20 seconds left for united to progress. There's no answer to how he plays, there's no tactics pep guardiola or jose mourinho can dream up to stop him just muscling their most imposing players and getting away with it
Felli is a red, rant over
Shame, thought we could be more amicable than this, but ok.
That was a freakish game where the entire team imploded after a bad call.
He's on a good run of form and has shown he is a good player. But I still think he's a player for specialized occasions rather than a constant starter.
Game was a mixed bag for Fellaini. On one hand he's improved his defending and concentration at set-pieces, which was shambolic at times earlier this season (and last season). He also had some decent passages of play and didn't dawdle on the ball for Rooney's goal which deserves credit.
LvG lamented our poor ball retention, but we were playing lots of long balls up to Fellaini, and whilst he did well winning most of them, we almost invariably subsequently lost the ball. I don't like that we play that way when he is in the team. Also for every good thing he does, he has to balance it out with something needlessly stupid and clumsy.
Overall there was more good than bad though and I no longer despair when he's named in the team. He's much improved, even if he does lack some finesse at times.
LvG lamented our poor ball retention, but we were playing lots of long balls up to Fellaini, and whilst he did well winning most of them, we almost invariably subsequently lost the ball. I don't like that we play that way when he is in the team. Also for every good thing he does, he has to balance it out with something needlessly stupid and clumsy.
Overall there was more good than bad though and I no longer despair when he's named in the team. He's much improved, even if he does lack some finesse at times.
Another solid performance from Fellaini. Keeping Herrerra out on merit. Weird how people still constantly look for any little mistake with him.
Every player loses the ball, misplaces a pass and or gets beaten by opposing player in every game, that's football.
Stats show he is doing less than most - certainly less than Herrerra was after his injury so he is rightly in the team ahead of him. He is also adding non stop energy to our defensive work and gets up down the pitch more than anyone.
Every player loses the ball, misplaces a pass and or gets beaten by opposing player in every game, that's football.
Stats show he is doing less than most - certainly less than Herrerra was after his injury so he is rightly in the team ahead of him. He is also adding non stop energy to our defensive work and gets up down the pitch more than anyone.
His pass for the counter attack from which Rooney scored was also excellent.
He's done really well, and I'm very pleased for him.
He's done really well, and I'm very pleased for him.
Who knew he'd be our go to guy for backs-against the wall time? He's been really good since he got his chance. What he's offered us has been more necessary than what Herrera can give us in our recent run of fixtures. Van Gaal will of course have decisions to make if the day ever comes when he has a squad to choose from but he has certainly proved his worth in the last 5 weeks or so. To go from a figure of ridicule to a vital cog in the cauldron that is United takes character. Like him or not, you have to give him credit for that.
Fair play to him, he's proving people wrong every game.
His awkwardness makes me cringe but I've been pleased with him. LVG should be commended for finding him a better-defined role in the team.
Again though we weren't doing it just because he was in the team. De Gea played 34 long balls yesterday and it wasn't because Fellaini was in the side. The back-line couldn't handle the pressing and constantly had to play it back to De Gea. If Fellaini isn't on the pitch, De Gea doesn't just start playing nice little through balls or something, he is still going to play long ball clearances. Having Fellaini on the pitch just means we can actually win some of them.
I don't understand this 'he's useful for specialised tactics'. He was very good against West Brom, alongside the likes of Chelsea, City and Arsenal.
If anything, his problem last season was that he was pathetic against the good teams but generally he looked fine against weaker opposition. The fact he's now been putting in good performances against good midfields is extremely encouraging.
If anything, his problem last season was that he was pathetic against the good teams but generally he looked fine against weaker opposition. The fact he's now been putting in good performances against good midfields is extremely encouraging.
Precisely. A lot of our long balls yesterday were to no one in particular. Just hopeful lumps forward.
It was quite obviously a strategy for this game. Fellaini was used as a long ball target. We are less likely to use that strategy without him. Wasn't a criticism of Fellaini. As I said he won most of them - so you cant ask for much more from him, I just don't like that style of play.
As I said in my post he did more good than bad yesterday.
Hang on, if that's what makes players great, surely Robbie Savage, the whole ex Wimbledon gang, and Joey Barton are great players.
Well its hard to be more amicable cause you're biased as hell when talking about Fellaini, so no purpose really.
I could argue the same regarding your views on him, but instead I tried to not simply dismiss a view that isn't my own.
He really wasn't though. Neither of our 3 center backs were comfortable on the ball. They were shut down, and we lumped it. Rinse and repeat. It wasn't a "tactic" per se.
He was decent yesterday but our midfield was completely runover. Don't know how that can be classed as a good performance.
yeah thats perfect logic
His pass to Di Maria in the build-up to Rooney's goal was class to be honest, split the pitch wide open...
I think he had a good game overall, but that pass could have been played by my Nan, it was a bit of a travesty we hadn't exploited those gaps sooner/more.
Remember that. Really happy to see him turn up in the big games this season. That 27m we paid for him is slowly starting to pay off, unbelievably.
No but's. My mother would have scored the chance Di Maria missed. It would be easy for someone with zero technical ability ...to get excited but he didn't. No need to to dismiss it. Lots of players struggle doing the simple things.
Good post.
Yeah, it was undoubtedly a very good pass, however Arsenal were incredibly weak at defending on the counter and were just waiting to be picked apart.
I just think through balls get awfully easy when almost every single outfield player is in one half of the pitch.
Credit to the big man, I don't like seeing Herrera sit out but I wouldn't be dropping Fellaini.
*cough* RVP
Credit to the big man, I don't like seeing Herrera sit out but I wouldn't be dropping Fellaini.
*cough* RVP
He's just a bit of an anomaly tbh, he is not always the prettiest but he has been one of our best players since he came on against WBA I don't think that can be in doubt, but I still don't see him as a long term United player, and fully expect him to be sold in the summer.
But the guy keeps surprising me so who knows.
But the guy keeps surprising me so who knows.
I just think he looks clumsy and doesn't look gracefull on the ball . He's done well last 4 games though and is an important squad member now .
Why would he be sold if he keeps on putting in performances like yesterday's and the other games? I highly doubt LVG gives a feck about his afro, lankiness or whatever else doesn't qualify him as a 'United player' according to some fans. He's doing his job right now and he's clearly rated by the manager.
Proud to have stood by his side last season.
The overrating of Fellaini's performance against Arsenal is on a par when everyone went nuts nuts over Ando in 07/08 after his performance at Anfield. In truth, on both occasions, we were overrun in midfield.
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