He'll say if Fellaini didn't walk him down shouting in his face then there would have been no problem.
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He'll say if Fellaini didn't walk him down shouting in his face then there would have been no problem.
So we've decided that Fellaini bullies LVG into forcing players to play long balls, even though we all know if united just played intricately from the back with two teenager CBs away at Arsenal they would win the game with style? We need Fellaini gone as soon as possible
Hahha this is so true. He'll smack a guy in the face and then look at him like he's just caught him shagging his Mrs...He's such a WUM.
The turnaround he has made is amazing. A few iffy touches that were a bit concerning but apart from that he was good. Really love watching him win the ball back just outside our defensive box time and time again. There were a few times where he potentially could have given away fouls in a few dangerous areas too but he seems to be doing a lot less of that lately, which is a good thing. No reason why he doesn't hold his spot in the team. Hopefully he can continue to perform well.
Some really bad moments and some really good moments, overall he did well, is definitely better in a three man midfield though.
Rooney too, Rooney's probably the one picking the line-ups in the first place.
Thought he was good overall. Dunno what that pass was about early in the second half, but otherwise he made some crucial interventions. Not perfect by any means, but he contributed more than most today.
The truth is Di Maria has iffy touches and today the ball ran away from him plenty of times, and Di Maria is the messiah. Making every pass perfect and neat isn't his game, and if you want to, you'll always find a few moments where he looks untidy in every game
I'll go along with the 50% bad moments, 50% very good, I thought his presence up at the top of their box caused the keeper and Gibbs to panic a touch more for Valencia's crappy shot/cross/goal.
You don't think a technically better midfielder with more athletic ability and mobility would have helped us get a better grip in the midfield? We have had plenty of other discussions on football, tell me when I have simply looked to find fault with a player? Just because my opinion doesn't line up with yours does not mean I am simply making up the flaws in his game.
My God, this is tiresome.
I thought Di Maria was pants and Fellaini definitely had a better game
I hate to admit it, but Fellaini was pretty decent.
That said, Fellaini was offside and our first goal should have been disallowed.
That said, Fellaini was offside and our first goal should have been disallowed.
Fellaini has been our unlikely saviour this season. He is absolutely brilliant at some things and not so good at others. He has a huge role to play this season. Not sure if he'll be here long term but right now he is miles better than any other central midfielders we have apart from Carrick
And Blind and Ander
He didn't touch the ball and didn't interfere with play. Gibbs and Szechny interefered. With each other.
Even if it was offside, the linesman evened it out with the scandalous Rooney one. Surely that would have been a goal.
Carrick, Blind and Herrera are all better than him, though he deserves to keep his place given his form.
I still have not seen a replay of an angle that shows it, does he push Gibbs into the keeper?
Comparing Ander to Fellaini is like comparing Lee Hughes to Gareth Barry...one is clearly ready for pl intensity while the other is potential
He's been good but I still don't see him as a regular starter.
It's amazing how LvG has sparked a change in him. Just goes on to show how right training methods can improve a player. Massive improvement from the shambles of last season.
Do not care. The same thing happened with Diego Costa against West Brom, and not a single voice of discontent on that goal!
Not sure i it's Fellaini style / presence itself that's keeping Herrera out but, more me it seems LVG has seen something - no clue what it is - that makes him not want to play Herrera right now. He's not even coming off the bench. Today I thought the right move would have been to bring on for RVP and moving Rooney up after the 1st goal. Might have given us a little more ability to keep the ball and exploit the space Arsenal were leaving but, he brought on Wilson eventually. Then even in the end brought on Fletcher.
Fellaini deserves to keep his place and frankly so should have Herrera with only the W. Brom game supposedly where he was really bad. Think we can go midfield of Carrick/Fellaini and Herrera with a front 3 of ADM/Rooney and one of Januzaj/RVP against Hull. We are lacking a bit of the vision that Herrera provides from the middle of the field.
Fellaini deserves to keep his place and frankly so should have Herrera with only the W. Brom game supposedly where he was really bad. Think we can go midfield of Carrick/Fellaini and Herrera with a front 3 of ADM/Rooney and one of Januzaj/RVP against Hull. We are lacking a bit of the vision that Herrera provides from the middle of the field.
Can we sign his brother too?
I think he should be left out against Hull. We will need his physical and aerial threat against Stoke a few days later.
Has there ever been quite such a dramatic Zero to Hero in recent years? I know we've still got the diehard haters in this thread who desperately wanted him banned for spitting. But generally he's now being judged as a useful asset to us, rather than a joke.
He put two hands on Gibbs and pushed him towards the keeper. It wasn't a big push, just a small one but clearly a push and contact
So the first third of the season didnt count? Ander is just potential?
Maybe you can dig up another video about it like you did for the "spitting". Send it to the FA perhaps.
There is definitely a little nudge there I think. He disguised it quite well though because it is hard to pick up even on replay. Don't care about the offside calls, it was marginal if there at all. Evened out by the Rooney decision anyway.
Yeh I think the reaction to the offside is way over the top from Arsenal fans, there was a pubic hair in it.
He has been good this game and recently but, sadly I don't think we would ever be able to play beautiful football with him on midfield.He really lack composure when under pressure.Brought physical presence though which is very useful in big games and defended well.
There was a moment today where he received a pass and had 3 arsenal players close him down. He had an open pass to carrick over his left shoulder but completely bricked it and gave the ball away in a very dangerous position. That really summed up his vision in midfield. He doesn't have the footballing intelligence to map out the field at high pace. Please don't play him in a midfield 2, he's a unique weapon for us in a midfield 3 that offers so much that doesn't require creativity. I love that big fecker though.
All for bringing Herrera back in longer term but can't tolerate the mindless bashing of Fellaini on here by some at the moment. The man has been a catalyst for our performances. His height, physicality and off ball movement from midfield have been a fantastic outlet ball. He's under clear instructions to drift away from play toward the end of a potential cross when we have control and is De Gea's number 1 target to distribute too. As crude as it is, it works perfectly. On the ball he may not be the most mobile or have the best vision but he's working his socks off and again and his size is a fear factor that stops 99% of players bothering to entertain a tackle with him, the Yaya factor. Thus his ball winning skills are vastly underrated and a huge factor in us breaking up the oppositions play.
Love him or hate him, the man is an asset to our play right now and has been arguably our best outfielder of late in a spell where we've turned tough moments into points. The formula works and until it doesn't, Herrera will have to sit tight until the defenders are back and LVG can try the 4-3-1-2 again or some formation where we can look to play progressively first again rather than defence-first.
Love him or hate him, the man is an asset to our play right now and has been arguably our best outfielder of late in a spell where we've turned tough moments into points. The formula works and until it doesn't, Herrera will have to sit tight until the defenders are back and LVG can try the 4-3-1-2 again or some formation where we can look to play progressively first again rather than defence-first.
He covered more ground than anyone in either team yesterday - 7.5 miles.
But I keep hearing on here he's not very mobile?
I think he is just being used in the sort of role's he's suited too more unbashedly by LVG and is more confident this season as well rather than anything to do with training.
Was bewildering that Moyes bought him and then tried to completely change his game almost from what he was most successful doing with him at Everton. It was almost like Moyes was ashamed to use him to lob direct balls and a battering ram and allow him to get forward more and mistakenly thought he was a United standard of deeper CM.
Even the Belgium coach Wilmots said as much in the summer that United were using 2 6's and not utilizing Fellani's best abilities. He is a attacking box to box CM who'll work hard basically and be a constant nuisance in many ways. Just get the AM to cover for him when he gets into the box which is what LVG has done dropping those playing ahead of him deeper and allowing him room to go ahead early.
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