Turned into Stoke/west ham after he came in, which was horrible to watch. I love having him as another option, but for it to be our only option in the last 15-20 minutes, it really wasn't pretty. I don't understand why he doesn't jump for headers at times.
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If the ref had done his job, Fellaini wouldn't have been on the pitch for more than, what? 10 minutes?
It wouldn't even be so bad if your description of what Fellaini does was apt, but he doesn't even put himself about - he just fouls people in the most blatant ways possible and when it comes to actual body-strength tussles, he loses a lot of them, and, he's also very meek in the tackle.
A few people have took this game badly today.
He did well enough when he came on and was a long way from being the reason for the loss.
I am more worried about Mata doing nothing for 80 minutes than Fellaini today. This was not the toughest test we are going to have this season.
He did well enough when he came on and was a long way from being the reason for the loss.
I am more worried about Mata doing nothing for 80 minutes than Fellaini today. This was not the toughest test we are going to have this season.
The drop from Herrera to Fellaini was ridiculous. The worst part of Fellaini is that he actually IS as bad as he's made out. You'd think the elbowing and thuggery was an exaggeration but it's not.
Our lack of depth on the bench caused this. It shouldn't be the time where we lump the ball. Save that for the last 5. Even then he won headers but no one close enough to take advantage. I recall once he won a header dragging Williams out and Rooney almost got in but that was the only time we made use of the knock downs.
He was actually getting fouled and swung his arms as happens every week in dozens of games.
Get a grip.
If he had been sent off like he deserved he would have been a big reason we couldn't get anything out of the game. He got away with it but that doesn't change what he did.
There were very many other problems, very many other players who didnt play well enough and we had struggled in the game before he came on. But this is the Fellaini thread so the focus is on him and he went on that pitch today and assaulted opposition players, taking a huge chance of sending us down to 10 men. Thats unacceptable.
He was the only one of our players (Swansea had Shelvey) who thought it was okay to risk getting sent off. A lot of other players played poorly but at least tried to win the game in an honest way.
I think he was fairly decent to be fair. He won back possession, intercepted a few passes and gave us a different option at the end when we needed it. I think he'll be able to be a part of the squad and contribute if he continues down this road.
Nobody is actually claiming he is the reason for the loss though are they?
Most of us are just saying he's a crap football player who doesn't belong anywhere near a Manchester United 1st 11.
We are also saying that he is a bit of a thug. Which would also imply he's a liability not just because of his sorely lacking football skills.
In 10 minutes, he done more defensively than Herrera and Flecther who were completely anonymous when it come to protecting our defence. Either way, I don't expect you to agree, as Fellaini will always be used as a scapegoat when we lose - even if he doesn't play.
God knows what you made of Keane.
I suppose this modern worlds is all about the hipsters - boring to me though, i still prefer football as a physical contact sport - yes with a bit of nasty sometimes.
We do not earn the right to play anymore and it shows when teams just run through us.
I don't think that what he did merited a red card in the slightest. Either way, he wasn't sent off so saying "if he was sent off he would be to blame for our loss" is completely moot.
If Cleverley was fit today he would have come on before Fellaini but still, he was nowhere near as bad as people made out. He played some neat passes forward and people are still fkin' overlooking the fact we had 5 other forward players who should have taken their heads out their arses and made something happen.
As I said before, he was the only player on the pitch electing to knee and elbow opponents and with that, he is at the mercy of the referee. He should have been sent off today for the elbow on Ki, and it's a running theme with him.In 10 minutes, he done more defensively than Herrera and Flecther who were completely anonymous when it come to protecting our defence. Either way, I don't expect you to agree, as Fellaini will always be used as a scapegoat when we lose - even if he doesn't play.
I don't agree with what you're saying (he stood and ball-watched the 2nd goal) but that's besides the point.
I don't blame Fellaini for how we play when he comes on as it can't be a coincidence that we go long the moment he's on and that's down to the manager.
So elbows and hands into the face don't merit red cards? He wasnt booked for clearly kneeing Montero in the back before that. Even if it was 2 yellows same result
It was like Heinze who used to elbow people often and made me feel guilty after each match that we still had 10 people on the pitch.
If that was an opposition player we'd be complaining about it for weeks on end
Roy Keane is nothing like Fellaini. They have no similarities whatsoever.
Not his fault LvG brought him on for Herrera instead of Fletcher. Not really fair to direct anger at him at all.
Never understood those that go on about selling player, the issue isn't Fellaini it's that we haven't signed a World Cup midfielder. Fellaini is fine as an option and offers us a different route
Never understood those that go on about selling player, the issue isn't Fellaini it's that we haven't signed a World Cup midfielder. Fellaini is fine as an option and offers us a different route
Is "hipster" the new insult for everything?
I've seen in used in arguments over everything from Palestine to Marouanne fecking Fellaini. I don't think it quite has the punch people think it does.
Plus I'd imagine the really "hipster" thing to do would be to contrarily like Fellaini.
I've seen in used in arguments over everything from Palestine to Marouanne fecking Fellaini. I don't think it quite has the punch people think it does.
Plus I'd imagine the really "hipster" thing to do would be to contrarily like Fellaini.
Not saying the result was his fault at all but he was undeniably shit. For a 'defensive' midfielder he is a fecking awful defender. Opposing players run past him for fun. Unless he elbows them.
Honestly the knee and the elbow were both nothing "incidents" - if it wasn't Fellaini nobody would be kicking up a fuss about it.
The "elbow" especially - it looked to me like Ki was dragging him back and holding his shirt, Fellaini raised his hand in the air (gesturing to the ref in frustration) and caught Ki on the way up. Accidental and only a result of Ki fouling Fellaini.
wow
The knee was obvious
Fellaini was being held and fouled yes. Fellaini elbowed him in the face and then extended his hand to catch him again.
Surely he cant be blamed for our change in tactics when he came on, that was the managers decision. We had been passing it around all day long and we weren't making any inroads the moment Swansea took taylor off.
With the polarized opinions obviously some group in here are complete idiots - is it the people saying he's okay (a few posters in here, moyes, LVG, Belgian national team coach) or is it the people who say he was the worst player on the pitch and the reaosn we lost HMMMMMMM
Again, this seems more like Fellainis reputation doing him damage. I suspect if it was another player, everyone would be quick to jump to their defence.
Whatever the case again, Fellaini wasn't sent off and therefore his supposed fouls had no real impact on the result. He played OK - better than many of the team, he gave us an outlet in attack when LVG pushed him forward, and used his physicality a few times to win the ball.
Not brilliant, but definitely not a culprit for the loss.
Are you being deliberately obtuse?
In fact don't bother answering, I pretty much knew me replying in the first place was a mistake - as you were.
When he got his position ready, Januzaj and Nani let him down.. All the crosses bar maybe 1 or 2 were awful..
Is it ? How so ? Can we not have a discussion without either side being the idiot ? Nothing wrong with stating you opinions.
Also stop sh*t stirring. No one said that. Scroll up and recheck !
Funny, I mentioned another player who isnt Fellaini who I was embaressed by after the match. I must have been using Fellaini's reputation against Heinze each time he should have been off and got away with it.
Or indeed is it the people who say he wasn't the reason we lost but he's still utter shit?
I agree.
As a centre midfielder, as I've come to expect, he was poor. He's lucky Swansea aren't seeking a retrospective ban for his hands up approach too.
But as a #10 he won a few knockdowns and was a nuisance at crosses. Fellaini can't be blamed for the fact Mata was also playing #10 and Fletch was alone in midfield against the Swansea runners. Our coaching staff wanted that. If not they'd have brought Fellaini on for Mata and left us with two proper midfielders.
When did LvG say he is OK?
This barely makes sense - I wasn't just referring to you however, but rather the usual suspects on the caf who will jump at any chance to blame it on Fellaini. Same sort of cretins who were ironically cheering him when he came on against Valencia, I suspect.
I wasn't "embarrassed" by Fellaini at all today. The team played poorly and he was a part of that, but on an individual level he tried to impact the game in a positive way, he used his strengths and on the whole played reasonably.
Except people aren't saying that he was the reason we lost, that's just a strawman you have invented.
He was average on the ball, won the ball when we didnt have it a couple of times, completely clueless of what to do in his own box on their 2nd goal.
If thats where his performance had started and stopped he'd have been just another on the list of players who didn't play well enough with a bunch of his teammates.
But that would be completely ignoring his hatchetman performance, which was different to any of our other players and why he deserves special criticism.
Anything for Fellaini
Fellaini was horrible today and should have seen red. He kind of enforced why so many wants him out.
Other players played badly. However this thread happens to be dedicated to him
Other players played badly. However this thread happens to be dedicated to him
Sounds like some of our fans would have loved to see Fellaini sent off today.
Well, I disagree, and this appears to have reached an impasse.
It doesn't matter which way you're trying to slice it - the two players are nothing alike.
Even Keane's moments of madness and/or thuggery were polar opposite to what we see from Fellaini in practically every game he plays for us.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but Keane never even once elbowed -- , at all, never mind on the sly like we see Fellaini do. -- a fellow professional in a United shirt.
Keane had moments of madness and sheer thuggery between fantastic imposing and inspirational performances.
Fellaini had moments of madness and sheer thuggery between average and poor performances.
Fellaini had moments of madness and sheer thuggery between average and poor performances.
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