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Good Craig got his c'nuppins
Moron, you have a good season and begin to show Manchester United's supporters what you can do and then you go and do that in the final game of the season? Stupid.
Then what on earth is the problem?
He said that he didn't like watching Fellaini play (long balls I would guess)...I mean its not that complicated.Then what on earth is the problem?
I didn't realize that to want a better player for your team to improve means you are not able to forgive a player for not being one of the best young playera out there. By that logic, I should be mad at Herrera as well for not being Fabregas.
But I guess common sense and you don't go hand in hand.
There is no pb, just simply saying I hate watching Fellaini play football for us or in general. Fairly simply no ?
Again, I am not saying he has not been decent or needs to be sold to the mines. What I am merely pointing out is that the role he plays for us is that of a #10 more often than not and we if we need to improve our style of play, we need to look beyond Fellaini and his ability to hold up the ball as an option A in that position. He is a very good option to have when we are chasing games and can be used as a battering ram against certain opposition, but his skill set is so limited that I personally feel we are becoming too long ball for my liking when we start with him in that crucial creative role of a true #10.What I'm, essentially, saying is that you don't have to be technically outstanding to play for a top team. Fellaini may not be able to play anything like a Messi, or Neymar or Suarez, but he brings something else to the table, something just as important as any other player in our team.
His physical presence was vital in our wins against our rivals for a top 4 place and will more as important next year when we're challenging for more.
He said that he didn't like watching Fellaini play (long balls I would guess)...I mean its not that complicated.
Simple is very apt indeed
Please point me out to where I have asked him to be sold or insinuated that he won't be here next season?Fellaini will be here next season because LVG knows something you dont
Please point me out to where I have asked him to be sold or insinuated that he won't be here next season?
Look no further than our Captain. One of the worst first touches, if not, the worst for a United player; yet he's still going.
Just because someone wants a higher quality of players doesn't mean they are asking for Fellaini to be sold. He even said that he thinks he's a good plan bFellaini will be here next season because LVG knows something you dont
He said that he didn't like watching Fellaini play (long balls I would guess)...I mean its not that complicated.
Really? This is just silly...surely you must have known how I meant we play long balls to him a lot and go for lots of aimless crossing into the box which can be frustrating to watch when it doesn't work.Fellaini plays long balls?
No it doesn't make much sense at all.
He's a good player, has had a good season, contributed well in terms of goals and a top four finish... But I hate watching him play for United.
I ask why? Because "I hate watching him play in general".
Again, I am not saying he has not been decent or needs to be sold to the mines. What I am merely pointing out is that the role he plays for us is that of a #10 more often than not and we if we need to improve our style of play, we need to look beyond Fellaini and his ability to hold up the ball as an option A in that position. He is a very good option to have when we are chasing games and can be used as a battering ram against certain opposition, but his skill set is so limited that I personally feel we are becoming too long ball for my liking when we start with him in that crucial creative role of a true #10.
You are dodging the question - I haven't claimed that all the creativity should come from one side, but rather than currently, the majority of our threatening play is done down the left, with Young and Fellaini both typically involved, and yet these are the two that you and others seem to feel aren't pulling their weight.
At present, for all their aesthetically pleasing linkups, I struggle to think of chances and dangerous moves that they have created - they merely recycle possession around the box and play it backwards or sideways. Sometimes the ball gets to Valencia who swings in a cross from the right, but that is about it.
Regardless of what you want from a midfielder, Fellaini is clearly not in the team to be a playmaker. He is generally neat and tidy in possession, he wins the ball back regularly, can hold the ball up, dominates in the air and is a goal threat, as well as being an asset when attacking and defending set pieces. This is quite plainly his game, and judging by the fact that LVG has continued to pick him in the starting XI, it would seem that the manager values those qualities in that position, otherwise we might have seen Di Maria or Mata in that role.
I didn't just say that did I ? He's a poor player technically speaking and pretty average on the ball.
Really? This is just silly...surely you must have known how I meant we play long balls to him a lot and go for lots of aimless crossing into the box which can be frustrating to watch when it doesn't work.
"just simply saying I hate watching Fellaini play football for us or in general".
You misunderstood me totally, I'm not criticizing his contribution nor his ability. Just the ugly way he plays football, I'm talking about style and individual POV.
You still misunderstand me, I keep saying he's a good player. He's had a good impact and very important one in some big matches this season. I make a clear separation between his contribution and his style of play. I never said he was shit when he clearly wasn't.
What I'm, essentially, saying is that you don't have to be technically outstanding to play for a top team. Fellaini may not be able to play anything like a Messi, or Neymar or Suarez, but he brings something else to the table, something just as important as any other player in our team.
His physical presence was vital in our wins against our rivals for a top 4 place and will more as important next year when we're challenging for more.
I didn't just say that did I ? He's a poor player technically speaking/pretty average on the ball.
Ok if you can't contemplate that there could be better midfielders than Fellaini then fair enough. I would much rather have Gundogan or Pogba paired with Herrera as I believe that they are far superior with the ball at their feet.And when he scores winners? Besides he can play with ball at feet too
Ok if you can't contemplate that there could be better midfielders than Fellaini then fair enough. I would much rather have Gundogan or Pogba paired with Herrera as I believe that they are far superior with the ball at their feet.
Absolute bollix. This is a guy who reguarly chests the ball down and turns on a dime in one flowing move. If Zlatan did that you would wank yourself silly
Who said there wasnt better midfielders? Im saying Fellaini doesnt deserve the scrutiny he gets. How many winners has he gotten for us?
Look no further than our Captain. One of the worst first touches, if not, the worst for a United player; yet he's still going.
He may be actually the best chest controller in the world.
He totally deserves the scrutiny he gets, Fellaini has deficiencies in term of technique and particularly agility that we can't afford in attacking midfield.
Couldnt disagree more
Another great postWhy do folks constantly feel the need to be sarcy (not aimed at you FWIW) or drag other players through the mud in a Fellaini specific discussion thread ? Can't we stop with the digs (again not you) and discuss his merits in a civil manner from an isolated perspective ? And are we really, seriously going to compare someone of Rooney's caliber with him ? Most of the supporters are well aware of the fact that we a still short of quality in multiple positions, but that underlying factor shouldn't be used as a validation for Fellaini.
The point you made about technically inferior players succeeding at the highest level of the sport in deeply flawed, especially when it comes to players operating in or around the final third. If you still stand by the statement, name the front 6 players from Bayern or Juventus or Madrid or Barcelona who are similar to him in terms of technical quality. It's a shame that there's been a steady regression of expectations in the last 18 months or so. People are losing sight of where we need to be. United has to be at the level of those clubs, that's where we've historically been - we had Scholes and Keane patrolling the center of the pitch and Ole as a supersub - none of them were giants or overly physical, but got the job done in an exciting, positive fashion. That should never be forgotten. The need for having a physical element shouldn't override basic footballing technique and quality, something that dude is well short on.
Anyway, the season is over, we don't have a lot of financial constraints, and can look forward to the transfer window to address the squad, especially the hybrid #10/ #8 position he currently occupies (among others just to be clear). IMO a proper, technically proficient box-to-box will be priority for Van Gaal.
Maybe not a limited skillset but we have had some players who are average in a number of positions and have been used as back ups to the real star players many times. I see Fellaini as one of these types. Who will fill in for a better player in some situations but don't want him to be a certain starter for us next season.I agree to some extent. Ideally, I'd like a Gundogan, or Vidal, or Pogba. However, I, truly, think Fellaini could be very effective for us, next season, in a similar role. His skill set is not limited; Like I said, it's extremely difficult to be a professional footballer playing for Manchester United with a limited skill set, in this day and age.