Giggsy92
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It looked pretty malicious to me, he and McShane had words with each other like a minute before (about Fellaini's elbows I think).
Mascherano is a centreback. Them not being fantastic technically isn't that big of a deal. It's different for players where Fellaini playsThat's the thing, we've been absolutely ugly, from week one. The game against Hull epitomises our entire season.
We don't need 11 brilliantly technical footballers to be a great team. Look at Mascherano for Barcelona; hardly the prettiest footballer (football wise) yet integral to their success.
That's the thing, we've been absolutely ugly, from week one. The game against Hull epitomises our entire season.
We don't need 11 brilliantly technical footballers to be a great team. Look at Mascherano for Barcelona; hardly the prettiest footballer (football wise) yet integral to their success.
He could have easily turned Mcshane into the next Varys.
Mascherano is a centreback. Them not being fantastic technically isn't that big of a deal. It's different for players where Fellaini plays
McShane lives until we find a cock merchant.
You dont compare a #10 to a CB and then claim not all players need to be technically gifted.That's the thing, we've been absolutely ugly, from week one. The game against Hull epitomises our entire season.
We don't need 11 brilliantly technical footballers to be a great team. Look at Mascherano for Barcelona; hardly the prettiest footballer (football wise) yet integral to their success.
I never even said he wasn't good enough for United? I'm happy with his contribution but I can see why people think he's terrible to watch and wouldn't mind a higher calibre of player in that position.We beat City, Tottenham and Liverpool with Fellaini playing as a midfielder. He was an absolute nuisance and almost impossible to handle, yet he's clumsy and not good enough for United? This place is incredibly bi-polar.
I can just imagine what the Young thread would like if he plays bad for a few games, next season; or the di Maria thread, if he's able to start on fire.
Disgraceful from him, but the comments in the match thread were just pathetic.
Mascherano is still a technically sound player, very physical but so much more intelligent than Fellaini with his decisions. He makes fouls when he has to, Fellaini makes them needlessly over and over again. Besides you're taking what I said way to the other extreme, never talked about the team's style and having 11 brilliantly technical players. Fellaini is an ugly player to watch, no matter how good he can be is what I'm saying, nothing more, nothing less.
That's the thing, we've been absolutely ugly, from week one. The game against Hull epitomises our entire season.
We don't need 11 brilliantly technical footballers to be a great team. Look at Mascherano for Barcelona; hardly the prettiest footballer (football wise) yet integral to their success.
McShane lives until we find a cock merchant.
Those comments condemning him for a disgraceful challenge?
I'll tell you what's really pathetic in that thread...people who can't see beyond their own fan based prejudices and actually end up defending the cnut.
No, the comments wanting him sold this summer.Those comments condemning him for a disgraceful challenge?
I'll tell you what's really pathetic in that thread...people who can't see beyond their own fan based prejudices and actually end up defending the cnut.
You certainly didn't post that opinion whilst thinking of replacing Fellaini with Cattermole, Crouch or N'Zonzi, did you?
Fellaini has hardly been fouling game in game out, that's just an exaggerated stereotype.
Like I said in a post above, he's a great player to have and has been one of the most important in our late resurgence in finishing fourth.
Those comments condemning him for a disgraceful challenge?
I'll tell you what's really pathetic in that thread...people who can't see beyond their own fan based prejudices and actually end up defending the cnut.
McShane lives until we find a cock merchant.
You dont compare a #10 to a CB and then claim not all players need to be technically gifted.
A. He is a good option B to have. Nowhere near a "great player to have" category.You certainly didn't post that opinion whilst thinking of replacing Fellaini with Cattermole, Crouch or N'Zonzi, did you?
Fellaini has hardly been fouling game in game out, that's just an exaggerated stereotype.
Like I said in a post above, he's a great player to have and has been one of the most important in our late resurgence in finishing fourth.
It was a stupid challenge, but the overreaction in the match day thread was silly. That's why we have a match day thread, I guess.
A. He is a good option B to have. Nowhere near a "great player to have" category.
B. If we want to start looking beyond a fourth place finish, we need to replace the likes of Fellaini with someone better. I am absolutely sure there are better players, who are gettable, out there in a #10 position who will improve us many fold.
Like I also said, his contribution has been good this season, I just hate watching him play. Hopefully we'll replace him with a much better player (doesn't mean I want him sold, just on the bench most of the time).
Yes and one of the main reasons is he is a very intelligent player who has been able to adapt his game to play a CB role although he has been a midfielder for most of his career.Barcelona's recent success has been built upon having players capable of being able to keep the ball, pass the ball and retain the ball, to maximum effect. Mascherano, although not technically bad (but how can a professional footballer playing at the highest level be technically bad?), isn't the best, yet he's maximised his other attributes and been as important as any other Barcelona player.
I didn't realize that to want a better player for your team to improve means you are not able to forgive a player for not being one of the best young playera out there. By that logic, I should be mad at Herrera as well for not being Fabregas.This is one of the above mentioned posters
A. He is a good option B to have. Nowhere near a "great player to have" category.
B. If we want to start looking beyond a fourth place finish, we need to replace the likes of Fellaini with someone better. I am absolutely sure there are better players, who are gettable, out there in a #10 position who will improve us many fold.
No theres just a load of posters on here who have never forgiven Fellaini.for not being Thiago
Obviously when wanting someone a bit better to watch technically you wouldn't replace Fellaini with any of those 3. Wanting a more technical number 10 doesn't mean you need all 11 players to be fantastic on the ball.You certainly didn't post that opinion whilst thinking of replacing Fellaini with Cattermole, Crouch or N'Zonzi, did you?
If you hate watching him play, then you truly don't understand his impact and what he brings to a team.
I, too, hope we bring in another midfielder, or two, but we'll need Fellaini, again, next season.
He's an under-appreciated player who allows others to play, with some degree of freedom.
I can't say I really disagree too much with @NK86 there Ramshock. I'm not generally one of those agenda posters, and I was actually happy when we signed Fellaini - but I actually thought it was as a DM/CM at the time.This is one of the above mentioned posters
Yes and one of the main reasons is he is a very intelligent player who has been able to adapt his game to play a CB role although he has been a midfielder for most of his career.
Second and more importantly, Barca have been this dominant again because of Messi, Suarez and Neymar. And Fellaini plays a rol closer to them than Mascherano.
You still misunderstand me, I keep saying he's a good player. He's had a good impact and very important one in some big matches this season. I make a clear separation between his contribution and his style of play. I never said he was shit when he clearly wasn't.
What I'm, essentially, saying is that you don't have to be technically outstanding to play for a top team.
Those comments condemning him for a disgraceful challenge?
I'll tell you what's really pathetic in that thread...people who can't see beyond their own fan based prejudices and actually end up defending the cnut.