Yes you can. (Stats wise)
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Yes you can. (Stats wise)
Yeah ball retention is just about making a safe choice, which in Fellaini's case is often to shield the ball and turn backwards away from pressure and find a safe pass. On a good day that keeps the ball very well, but is the opposite of progress and making avenues to attack
When is he back?
Has anyone else noticed this trend of LVG telling us 'player x has picked up a little knock or caught a slight cold' and then it turns into a month or two off because of injury? It's gotten to the point where when he says something like that, it would be more unpredictable if the player actually ended up not injured. Bringing me to next point, if it's in order to confuse other teams; surely it's past the point now where it's clever as I'm sure every manager with a brain out there has caught on to this.
So that begs the question; Why? I'm not going to accuse LVG of being an idiot, because he is anything but that. However it is incredibly frustrating and I am slowly losing my patience as to why he cannot just assess our injury situation honestly. Another thing I've noticed is even when he does admit they're injured, we don't seem to have any clear indication as to when players actually return. He consistently lies about the time it will take for them to come back. Either that, or whoever is giving him the information is completely and utterly inept.
So that begs the question; Why? I'm not going to accuse LVG of being an idiot, because he is anything but that. However it is incredibly frustrating and I am slowly losing my patience as to why he cannot just assess our injury situation honestly. Another thing I've noticed is even when he does admit they're injured, we don't seem to have any clear indication as to when players actually return. He consistently lies about the time it will take for them to come back. Either that, or whoever is giving him the information is completely and utterly inept.
Not really no.
I remember your username simply from all the times you have disagreed with one of my posts. You're telling me you haven't noticed the constant underestimation of a lot of our players injuries when they are first announced?
For the record, we had a long debate in Summer about Rooney where I was of the opinion he was past it and thought we should have sold him on. You disagreed were completely correct in that regard and I'm happy to eat my words on that matter. Something isn't right about the information we are being fed regarding our absentees however. I may be exaggerating or it may be purely down to coincidence but our injuries do seem to end up being a lot worse than what we are told originally; for whatever reason.
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We've been unlucky with injuries and it's natural to get frustrated and look for people to be frustrated with but I don't think Van Gaal should be one of those people - if any such people exist.
Maybe it would be better if you listed the specific cases because off the top of my head I only think of Herrera but then I have been drinking all day.
Also maybe we shouldn't discuss this in the Fellaini thread.
It's our medical staff who tells LVG how long they expect the players to be out, LVG has nothing to do with it he only tell us what they tell him. If the players are out for longer then expected it's the medical department that should be blamed not LVG.
I understand that. But my whole point is that I think LVG may be lying about the recovery times on purpose, for whatever reason.
The injuries are frustrating regardless of if the media are informed or not. By the way he's not hiding his honest assessment from "us" as we don't get a Q&A sessions with him. And I haven't noticed him lying in any of the media in post or pre match interviews. Maybe it's just you?
I would suggest he gives the information he has available at the time he is asked.
When we start Fellaini I always feel like we're playing with a weakened squad, but I really like the idea of having him come off the bench to button things down or chase the late cross on goal.
Injury recovery times are unpredictable...it's not a computer game.
I hope Fellaini is back soon.
I hope Fellaini is back soon.
Not sure why you still feel that way. We crushed Liverpool with him, drew 10-man AV without him.
We drew with Chelsea and lost against City with him in the team.
I agree with it. Think he gives us an extra avenue when we square up against the big guns or are desperate towards the end of matches. Against the lesser sides I would not pair him up with Carrick or Blind and he cannot replace them, so I would start someone with more attacking intent even if it does mean that we sometimes give the ball away while trying more risky passes in the opponent half.
The problem with that style is that yes he can get by in a match using the ball like (turn away from pressure, find teammate and dont lose the ball) that but as a concequence the rest of the team needs to use the ball better than he is.
You can't have 2 CMs just turning away from pressure and finding high percentage backwards and square passes, because you'd never get the ball down the other end of the pitch. In my opinion its an overcelebrated contribution when Fellaini has played like that and things like his fast release pass to Di Maria a few weeks ago are needed a couple of times per match to make up for it.
In fact thats what I enjoy about Carrick and Blind as defensive midfield players, they are always capable and likely to play a good pass into the front players when its on. They dont just turn away from trouble and play the safe pass all the time like physical defensive midfielders tend to, like Fellaini, Tiote, Wanyama and so on. That makes your team predictable and easier to defend against because you either dont need to put pressure on that player (he's never likely to hurt you) or alternatively you can put lots of pressure on that player and he'll spend the game disrupting your attacks or getting the ball pinched by 2 players hunting him down with a high pressure style
Chelsea's a tad bit better than Aston Villa and we lost to City due to a red card.
This is what I hate the most about our players, some are even more guilty than others (Mata, Fletcher when he plays, Fellaini, Valencia). I know I mentioned more than CMs but it's like our players are so focused on keeping the ball, they lose any will of moving forward and playing positively.
If we're gonna have Fellaini in midfield passing back to the defence, we'd might as well play Carrick as a CB.
This post has to be a windup.
It was clear he was missed against Villa, and will be even more so against a very combative Newcastle midfield. He offers the best defensive cover than any other midfielder in the club, and he creates real problems to defences from set pieces.
Just get him ready for Stoke.
Just sell him in January and buy someone who offers something more than bullying and looking dangerous (despite not being) at set pieces.
Another training injury.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ited-s-clash-Tottenham-Sunday-rib-injury.html
The Mail don't say anything about it being broken and say that it was suffered in the Liverpool game, not training.
The Mail don't say anything about it being broken and say that it was suffered in the Liverpool game, not training.
So he went from being ill (sharing the Belgian flu with Adnan) to having a broken rib?
Wtf is going on.
Wtf is going on.
great
Means more Fletcher it seems.
You know what our players are like with freak injuries. He probably just sneezed.
An excessive amount of coughing fractured a rib.
*Darren Fletcher intensifies*
That Rooney fella has been doing pretty decent in midfield I hear
Defensive midfielder though, somebody to play behind Mata and Rooney. God knows if we can allow ourselves to rest Michael like we did after odd 60 minutes against Nouveauchateau. Our next game is on the first of January, Carras could not be rested enough to play against Stoke which will leave us with one option.
I'm really not sure he needed to repeat the "injury" trick from the summer ahead of this transfer window - nobody wants him to leave this time round
But seriously, if it is another training injury then how many is that from the 43+ total injuries we've had this season? Di Maria, Rafael, Falcao have definitely had training injuries; Jones as well? Must be a significant enough number to perhaps cause some questions to be asked about the approach to training sessions?
But seriously, if it is another training injury then how many is that from the 43+ total injuries we've had this season? Di Maria, Rafael, Falcao have definitely had training injuries; Jones as well? Must be a significant enough number to perhaps cause some questions to be asked about the approach to training sessions?
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This. Is. Ridiculous.
I've stopped paying attention to preliminary reports of injuries/illnesses because in every case it seems that players miss more time than originally reported. Fletcher cannot be used anymore as a #6, and Carrick can't play every game-but the cupboard is bare as I don't see Herrara as a #6. Blind needs to get healthy--fast.
I've stopped paying attention to preliminary reports of injuries/illnesses because in every case it seems that players miss more time than originally reported. Fletcher cannot be used anymore as a #6, and Carrick can't play every game-but the cupboard is bare as I don't see Herrara as a #6. Blind needs to get healthy--fast.
Herrera, Fellaini
Never seen two broken ribs in one season
These players are really fragile
Vinnie Jones, Duncan Ferguson...never had this kind of injuries
I'd rather we played him in one position, but if Smalling and Evans are fit, then maybe Jones... I'll take it over Fletcher.
Real shame for the big man. He's been playing well.
As soon as our defenders seem to slowly return, about £120 million worth of the midfield goes down the pan. Frustrating.
As soon as our defenders seem to slowly return, about £120 million worth of the midfield goes down the pan. Frustrating.
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