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Where did I say anything about Good players? I said tough. Please Have the decent to actually read what is written before attempting to be clever and sarcastically mock the logic.
Then why did you mention Keane and Gerrard? Why not Shelvey and N'Zonzi? Who also do their fair share of tough physical tough play with a mean streak. Don't try to be obtuse, it was a stupid comment. Certain players should be absolved from physical play for one reason Fellaini for a completely different reason should be scrutinized.

Players make all sorts of tackles, deal with it.
 
He won loads of headers and a few tackles, you really didn't see any?

It reminded me of a game I watched of Andy Carroll for England two or three years ago.

It was when his stock was at it's highest and the commentators were frothing over him winning most of the headers he was challenging for.

It was completely ignored that none of the headers he won actually ended up at a England players feet or in a dangerous position.


Same with Fellaini today, got his head to the ball first (he's 7'2" what else should you expect?) yet nothing whatsoever came from it.
 
It reminded me of a game I watched of Andy Carroll for England two or three years ago.

It was when his stock was at it's highest and the commentators were frothing over him winning most of the headers he was challenging for.

It was completely ignored that none of the headers he won actually ended up at a England players feet or in a dangerous position.


Same with Fellaini today, got his head to the ball first (he's 7'2" what else should you expect?) yet nothing whatsoever came from it.

I agree with you that for his size he should be winning more but him winning headers did create a couple of openings.

That Januzaj Volley that hit Rooney for example came from his knockdown at the far post.

Think we need to get the ball wide early and cross from more dangerous areas for this tactic to be effective though instead of just hoofing from deep. Unless he has real beating of his marker like he did with Carrick when he played us. Also, we need to put men around for 2nd balls quick.
 
I don't mind Fellaini for the most part but what frustrates me is that our entire game plan changed once he got on the pitch today -- we started hoofing the balls from the back to a Fellaini on the outskirts of the box so he could head it down to another player. Perhaps its just we remember his goal against Valencia where a hopeful long ball found him and resulted in a goal that we tried to do the same thing for 20-30 minutes or so. Ridiculous. It's not like we were put into any better position by having Fellaini win a header, let alone direct it perfectly into the path of another onrushing player. I'm not saying not to feed Fellaini with these long balls but they shouldn't be our primary form of attack.
How much easier is it just to pass the ball to the edge of the box? At least then one of our forwards can turn and do something with it, not having to rely on the random bounce of the ball off of Fellaini's afro and worry about control the ball before making the next decision. Just a frustrating game all around epitomized by the way we used Fellaini.
 
It reminded me of a game I watched of Andy Carroll for England two or three years ago.

It was when his stock was at it's highest and the commentators were frothing over him winning most of the headers he was challenging for.

It was completely ignored that none of the headers he won actually ended up at a England players feet or in a dangerous position.


Same with Fellaini today, got his head to the ball first (he's 7'2" what else should you expect?) yet nothing whatsoever came from it.

It's not my favourite tactic but as an option for ten minutes when Mata's probing had produced little why not. It worked well considering the quality of most of the crosses, not enough people supporting or anticipating the knockdowns though.

He played better than Fletcher in midfield when he came on and it is there where he should fight for is place if no ones else comes in.
 
Then why did you mention Keane and Gerrard? Why not Shelvey and N'Zonzi? Who also do their fair share of tough physical tough play with a mean streak. Don't try to be obtuse, it was a stupid comment. Certain players should be absolved from physical play for one reason Fellaini for a completely different reason should be scrutinized.

Players make all sorts of tackles, deal with it.
I used Keane and Gerrard because they are tough guys, and because they were mentioned earlier in the thread. I used them as legitimate tough guys, not like Fellaini who someone (possibly you) called a tough guy earlier in the thread. As I said, difference between tough, and thug. Those two guys would routinely go in and win the ball for their team, then use it well. Fellaini simply does not do that. You can claim it was a stupid comment all you want, but it's my opinion and I will stick to it. Plenty of others agree with me.

I'm not even remotely saying that players should be absolved from physical play, I would like you to point out where I have? Again, not even reading what I'm typing, then having the audacity to call my comments stupid.

One last time, please actually read what people type before you call their comments stupid.

Incidentally, elbowing someone is not a tackle.

Also, if we're talking solid logic, so elbowing someone after being "bear hugged" is ok? Man, Becks should have used that excuse in '98. Hey ref, it's ok that I tripped him, he fouled me first.
 
I don't mind Fellaini for the most part but what frustrates me is that our entire game plan changed once he got on the pitch today -- we started hoofing the balls from the back to a Fellaini on the outskirts of the box so he could head it down to another player. Perhaps its just we remember his goal against Valencia where a hopeful long ball found him and resulted in a goal that we tried to do the same thing for 20-30 minutes or so. Ridiculous. It's not like we were put into any better position by having Fellaini win a header, let alone direct it perfectly into the path of another onrushing player. I'm not saying not to feed Fellaini with these long balls but they shouldn't be our primary form of attack.
How much easier is it just to pass the ball to the edge of the box? At least then one of our forwards can turn and do something with it, not having to rely on the random bounce of the ball off of Fellaini's afro and worry about control the ball before making the next decision. Just a frustrating game all around epitomized by the way we used Fellaini.
That is what annoyed me to. It wasn't an instant change but I think it was definitely tactical from the top to move him up. He almost swapped with Mata which was just plain silly.
 
Yeap. He annoys me because we have the tendency to go hoof ball when he is on the pitch.
 
He loses an astonishing amount of aerial battles given that he's fifty foot two and has a microphone for a head.
 
I vote for Sweet Chin Music. He's always going to get a lot of flack because he's tied to a bad transfer dealing and he's tied to the ill fated Moyes regime.

He's also a unique player that doesn't do well if in the wrong system.

The thing of it is that he's not really the issue but rather a symbol of the bigger issue of the unexplainable phenomenon that United refusing to acquire quality midfield pieces for 6 years.
 
Got abuse again going off the pitch today from a small fee idiots, didnt react too kindly to it either.

He done better today when he came on compared to fletch and herrera, he might not be the midfielder we crave but the abuse he gets is pathetic

He should have sent off in 2 occassions ffs.
 
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Yeah definitely didn't deserve to be sent off.

 
There was a moment in the game when Nani dribbled through the middle of the pitch, got to a good area and released him on the right flank with time and space to do something. The poor lad didn't even know what to do from there, he just passed the ball back to Jones at right back. I should have wept.
 
It's not 'exhale or you're getting sent off' either. Get a grip.

Apologies if I am used to watch proper football. I am sure that Stoke supporters would have loved Fellaini's 'contribution' during the game
 
he stood and ball-watched the 2nd goal
He did exactly the same when Bayern equalized at the return leg in Munich. He lacks neccessary defensive qualities, like focusing on the players around him instead of focusing on the ball.
 
Yeah that's the easy coward's way out TBF. So instead of deliberating and trying to make a cogent argument - be it pro or otherwise, we should ignore anyone we don't necessarily agree with. Seems rational enough. Good luck with that. And let's all put anyone we don't see eye to eye with on our ignore lists ! ;)

Well, seems you haven't been around long enough either so I'll try to make myself a little bit clearer just for you. It's not about ignoring people who make a point about him whether it's a negative or positive one, it's about people who come here ( and came to the 13/14 thread ) every single day ( matchday or not ) and continue with their utter shite that's being repeated ad infinitum. Those cliches I quoted are the best example, go and read through previous Fellaini thread from the page one so you'll maybe understand it better.

It's not about ignorning people who I disagree with, no, it's about ignoring people who spout the same shit every single time, you simply enter this thread and expect certain names to pop up. I'm not going to go through the same discussions about Fellaini over and over again. Some people claim that he elbowed somebody yesterday, so really, what's the point in discussion when somebody's making up shit in order to make a boring, repetitive 'point' ? Fellaini's not United quality, yea, we fecking got that, but so is about 80% of the squad judging from last season and yesterday's game so jog on.

So yea, spend a little bit more time here and then talk about what's a rational approach and what's not.
 
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don't think he did awful yesterday to be fair to him, definitely think he can do a better job for us or someone else playing further forward, he really isn't a CM at all.
 
I don't mind Fellaini for the most part but what frustrates me is that our entire game plan changed once he got on the pitch today -- we started hoofing the balls from the back to a Fellaini on the outskirts of the box so he could head it down to another player. Perhaps its just we remember his goal against Valencia where a hopeful long ball found him and resulted in a goal that we tried to do the same thing for 20-30 minutes or so. Ridiculous. It's not like we were put into any better position by having Fellaini win a header, let alone direct it perfectly into the path of another onrushing player. I'm not saying not to feed Fellaini with these long balls but they shouldn't be our primary form of attack.
How much easier is it just to pass the ball to the edge of the box? At least then one of our forwards can turn and do something with it, not having to rely on the random bounce of the ball off of Fellaini's afro and worry about control the ball before making the next decision. Just a frustrating game all around epitomized by the way we used Fellaini.


i came in this thread to say exactly that. Hate that tactic and I think fella is the cause of it.
 
Well, seems you haven't been around long enough either so I'll try to make myself a little bit clearer just for you. It's not about ignoring people who make a point about him whether it's a negative or positive one, it's about people who come here ( and came to the 13/14 thread ) every single day ( matchday or not ) and continue with their utter shite that's being repeated ad infinitum. Those cliches I quoted are the best example, go and read through previous Fellaini thread from the page one so you'll maybe understand it better.

It's not about ignorning people who I disagree with, no, it's about ignoring people who spout the same shit every single time, you simply enter this thread and expect certain names to pop up. I'm not going to go through the same discussions about Fellaini over and over again. Some people claim that he elbowed somebody yesterday, so really, what's the point in discussion when somebody's making up shit in order to make a boring, repetitive 'point' ? Fellaini's not united quality, yea, we fecking got that, but so is about 80% of the squad judging from last season and yesterday's game so jog on.

So yea, spend a little bit more time here and then talk about what's a rational approach and what's not.

Care to name and shame if you're positive certain posters incessantly chat shite when it comes to Marouane ? And please don't be patronizing from the next time. 5 months on here is more than enough for me to get a general feel of the posters. I don't need a lifetime worth of experience and 50k posts to arrive at basic conclusions. :)
 
Care to name and shame if you're positive certain posters incessantly chat shite when it comes to Marouane ? And please don't be patronizing from the next time. 5 months on here is more than enough for me to get a general feel of the posters. I don't need a lifetime worth of experience and 50k posts to arrive at basic conclusions. :)

If your first response wasn't in patronizing style with a little bit of silly sarcasm I wouldn't have responded in the way I did.

Want me to send you a screenshot of my ignore list ? I'm not going to name and shame here, it's not the thread for it nor do I feel the need for it.
 
If your first response wasn't in patronizing style with a little bit of silly sarcasm I wouldn't have responded in the way I did.

Want me to send you a screenshot of my ignore list ? I'm not going to name and shame here, it's not the thread for it nor do I feel the need for it.

Please do. :)
 
Are people sure he was at fault for the 2nd goal? It looked to me like he was told by Fletcher about an opponent behind him and followed him in (losing him briefly) while Sigurdsson was being marked by Blackett who let him go and Fellaini just ended up the closest to him while Blackett stood at the back post marking nobody.
 
Are people sure he was at fault for the 2nd goal? It looked to me like he was told by Fletcher about an opponent behind him and followed him in (losing him briefly) while Sigurdsson was being marked by Blackett who let him go and Fellaini just ended up the closest to him while Blackett stood at the back post marking nobody.
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Surely his peripheral vision is affected by his hair no ? Not that his game needs that much vision anyway
He would have needed eyes in the back of his head and Fletch stands still for a long time.
 
Just hope that this tall guy will be loaned to Napoli asap

Hope that they'll qualify to CL football this season in order to get their 25M from UEFA and pay him

Industrial error, he was again out of position (ok he had just two weeks of training), but he didn't had anything in his game
 
:lol: Eyes in the back of the head.
 
Yeah exactly. Blackett has Sigurdsson at this point and ends up losing him. Fellaini follows his man the whole way.
Head over to the goals conceded v Swansea thread. I know Blackett loses him but from the moment Fletch enters the box until the goal goes in he doesn't move, which was strange. I don't think Fellaini can be blamed at all really. But it's all opinions.

@kouroux, well I was talking about in this instance. :devil:
 


People cannot be serious with these excuses ?

Who exactly is he marking ? Dude's just watching the ball throughout the goal... First for the cross from the left side then for the final ball.. What exactly did he contribute ? Bony even jogged into the area and our man showed little awareness of that... Yet for some reason he can suffice as a defensive midfielder...
 
Some dutch football website made a big headline about how La Gazetta Della Sport wrote about that loan deal with Napoli again today. Got my hopes up for a second, but I assume it's just old news recycled and all.
 
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